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Title: All Moral philosphies are the end justifies the means, just worded differently.
Post by: TheDarkJay on July 25, 2008, 06:08:30 pm: In other words, they don't believe the end result of x is enough to overcome the end result of y that is the action itself.

So if a politician is assassinated, for example, to prevent a war and save countless lives, then they aren't saying the means of killing him doesn't justify the end of saving all those lives, but they are saying the end of him dying isn't enough to out-weight the end of saving all those lives.

Discuss.
Title: Re: All Moral philosphies are the end justifies the means, just worded differently.
Post by: शेफाली on July 25, 2008, 06:23:48 pm: What immediately entered my mind was this quote from Ghandi:
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
Title: Re: All Moral philosphies are the end justifies the means, just worded differently.
Post by: Dantztron 3030 on July 25, 2008, 07:33:34 pm: "Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, always at the same time as an end and never merely as a means to an end."

-- Immanuel Kant
Title: Re: All Moral philosphies are the end justifies the means, just worded different
Post by: Dracon on July 26, 2008, 10:01:02 pm: Deontological ethics can blow me. I would shoot my own mother if it meant stopping a war in which thousands of people died.
Title: Re: All Moral philosphies are the end justifies the means, just worded differently.
Post by: TheDarkJay on July 27, 2008, 06:03:05 pm: Quote from: Dracon on July 26, 2008, 10:01:02 pm
Deontological ethics can blow me. I would shoot my own mother if it meant stopping a war in which thousands of people died.

Of course I doubt such a situation would ever arise for you...unless your mother is some kind of evil genius?
Title: Re: All Moral philosphies are the end justifies the means, just worded different
Post by: Dracon on July 27, 2008, 10:39:10 pm: Something like that. Oh, and I forgot to mention that I brought of Deontology, because they are more about "Don't getcha hands dirty" than "Let the end justify the means".