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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2007, 08:52:46 pm »
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This is !@#$% insane!!
Seriously, this is probably the worst mistake of decision someone has ever made since Bush and his friends decided to declare war on Iraq. Well, pretty close at least.
Where the hell is the world getting to? Tomorrow we will have driving schools only teaching you to drive a certain brand. !@#$%.
Not everyone can be pro C++ programmers
This is not a question about language. See below.
This is !@#$% insane!!
Seriously, this is probably the worst mistake of decision someone has ever made since Bush and his friends decided to declare war on Iraq. Well, pretty close at least.
Where the hell is the world getting to? Tomorrow we will have driving schools only teaching you to drive a certain brand. !@#$%.
Lol, it's hardly like they're only teaching Game Maker. They're just making the software available freely to students and making sure people know how to use it.
"Freely available?" HEEEEEELL NO. Have you read the copyright license for Game Maker? It more or less says that if you make a good game YoYo Games can demand the rights to it. Where the hell is the education going if students can't make something without getting it stolen by some !@#$% commercial-driven organization who happens to sponsor the !@#$%? It's !@#$% insane. Academic and educational institution should use REAL freely available and neutral tools. Otherwise they will lose their primary goal; to teach and let people learn. You can't learn with Game Maker; it restricts you too much (and I don't mean that in a technical way; I mean it restricts what rights you have, and among them is the right to learn!)
I'm sure yoyo games will never ty to get the rights for your game, they probably just put it in there for whatever.
O_O;; That was the worst excuse EVER. Seriously. And either way, there are tons of other problems with the license. For example they don't provide you with the source code to the program. That's like giving an edu-book to students and forbid them to read the actual text. Such things shouldn't be used on an on a school. There are tons of better and more free alternatives to Game Maker, just as good and dare I say even better?
It's not an excuse.
some people don't want you looking at their source code >.>
And then at least such programs don't belong in a school or university.
Venus, stop being paranoid and get off those damn drugs. A college uses Gamemaker. AWNAWS THE WORLD ENDS.. -.-
It's a very serious thing. Of course, if you prefer a world where you have no freedom, where you can't learn, where you can't teach, and so on, sure then it's not so serious. However I don't prefer that kind of world and every sign I see of that world coming closer I must make sure people see it from another perspective which they might never have seen it before.
For example. A lot of people here might object to the decision because GameMaker is inferior technically and while I do agree with them for objecting, they might forget that there are much more important things than what's powerful enough to teach. In fact, if GameMaker was ethical (for example by being free software) I would love to see it being used by interested new students to learn the basics.
At the same time, the people who swallow and accept these decisions without thinking twice, I give them the opportunity to know more what's behind these decisions and how they might affect the society. Of course in the end they can choose what they think and what they will be doing about it, if anything at all.
I'm sorry, but I can't really see the world getting to this, and I do have the right to inform, so stop being an ass. If you don't agree with me then ignore me.  I'm only asking you to listen to me if you want to listen to me.
You're acting like Game Maker is being run by communists, you're going way overboard man.
Communism in any of its forms really has nothing to do with this. You're the one going overboard by even accusing me of something so silly and trying to make a point at the same time. >_>
If you want to criticize me, please do it in a better way (hey, at least so I can actually understand your criticism!), or otherwise you'll be ignored. Thank you.
Sorry  But screaming about having freedom and !@#$% taken away is going overboard, it's a damn game making program a lot of people use. No need to get all pissy at a college for offering it.
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