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« on: October 26, 2008, 07:20:30 pm »
Firstly. If you have nothing worth saying, please do not say it. I will immediately delete it when I see it, so it's not worth your time. The purpose of this topic is to not take a 'serious' look at ZFGC itself, but work on what we as a group 'together' (staff, former-staff and users) can do to improve the quality of ZFGC, since most of us have a common goal.
I voted 'this forum is about nothing'. As did 56.6% of others. Why do you think people voted this way? (Rhetorical question) I feel people voted that way because it's absolutely true. This forum in essence went from the following of OoT2D, to an attempt at displaying fan game creations to being of absolutely no value, other than harassing each other.
This doesn't mean that ZFGC can never be something. As I said in one of my posts in that topic, the administration has laid out tools for users to use. Perhaps the methodology behind the laying out of the tools wasn't the best, but it's all about learning, isn't it? When something doesn't work right, you take a look at it, tweak something and test it again. The system helios made for ZFGC was long coming and long planned, and easily and quickly implemented, but it wasn't implemented the best way possible, users should made their way to the new system in some sort of natural path, unfortunately, there's now an over lap between the standard forum boards and the game pages that needs to be cleared up... which is pretty simple to do, it just needs to be done and users need to get used to the new system, you have to be progressive about things... and quite frankly, if you don't like it you don't have to stay, and I encourage you not to, because the people who stay and don't like it seem to turn into !@#$% anyway.
Moderation is a big issue, moderators need to realize they're not following the rules at all, so when they make an attempt at applying them, it goes unheard, because it's impossible to apply something that you don't follow yourself. I think this issue was clearly made aware to current moderation staff, so hopefully this aspect of it will be resolved with out staff removal. This topic is not for telling moderator's they suck or singling anyone out on anything (or in general, not just mods..).
I'm sure most of you are going to say "TL;DR" by now, so that's good, post it and get it deleted, I don't want to read it.
The next step is working from the bottom up, as users, to renovate the forums. This means you actually give a crap. If you don't care, why are you here? I think that's a pretty legitimate question. Apparently as much as I don't want to care about it all, I still end up caring about it, because I keep posting.. so everyone must care a little.. and want to see some success in ZFGC in the future?
I think what ZFGC needs is a real backing.. a game that the forum can be backed by. A community project is a wonderful idea, the reason it 'failed' from the administrative standpoint was lack of administrative support, it had no physical backing.. I think the administration needs to select a few projects that are definitely promising, assist in re-organizing the community project, under an actual agreement everyone agree's on.... and get itself some backing that makes sense for the forum itself..
Users themselves power all of this, only you guys can allow the changes to happen.