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General => Entertainment => Topic started by: Vash on June 14, 2016, 08:30:52 pm
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Well I figured since no one else started a thread I may as well.
Unfortunately I didn't see anything but the tail end of the live stream for the demo - but I did catch the trailer after the fact for anyone who wants to see it or hasn't seen it here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy00yL3zPjE
I for one am pretty stoked about this game - there are a lot of unconventional Zelda like things happening though and it's going to be a pretty huge change - but it seems done so well that I can probably handle it without my mind exploding.
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game looks soooo goooooooood.. I am ready to play the elder scrolls Zelda edition.
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XD and did someone notice that the lamp of "the old man" looks like the one i made for the KoT Lizardos?
anyways... best of e3 for what i've seen (too much remakes/remasters going on )
game looks soooo goooooooood.. I am ready to play the elder scrolls Zelda edition.
You mean: The Elder Sword - Hyrule ;-)
Unfortunately I didn't see anything but the tail end of the live stream for the demo
Go to youtube, didnt see the livestream at all! (timezones and stuff)
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Far Cry Primal meets Zelda... I am going to spam the Hylia out of my Wolf Link amiibo.
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VOICE ACTING?!
A JUMP BUTTON?!
NO HEARTS FROM GRASS?!
Were my reactions lol
Can't wait to experience it though
Huge Ghibli vibes too
Far Cry Primal meets Zelda... I am going to spam the Hylia out of my Wolf Link amiibo.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck8lLnzVAAA9mzy.jpg)
Just going to link to neogaf for tons of info: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1233823
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It looks pretty fun, don't get me wrong, but was anyone else unimpressed by the aesthetics? The robot stuff was like, every color of LED all at once. The environment changes look pretty sudden too, like you cross a line and all of a sudden it's snowy.
Probably didn't help that I just played Uncharted 4, which was incredibly gorgeous. But the E3 dudes were like, the graphics are amazing! And I was like, I guess?
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I have mixed feelings. I like that there FINALLY seems to be voice acting and an open world. It looks like fun to walk around in it (the wall climbing and sliding on a shield is a nice touch). Though I wonder how long walking and flying around will stay fun seeing as the world is so vast and feels somewhat empty from what I've seen so far. I'm glad they brought exploration back to the series, though. It's something that's been lacking ever since Wind Waker, though that was mostly exploring water. It's almost like they 'filled up' the Great Ocean in this game with actual land to explore!
Having said that, I do agree with Donotfeedthemax. The graphics, no matter how you slice it, look dated as !@#$%. It doesn't make it unplayable, but compared to similar games that are out nowadays it really really stands out to me. Graphics have made an insane leap and Nintendo just feels like it's constantly lagging behind.
I'll have to see if the NX is any good, because there's no way I am buying a Wii U now obviously. If the NX is the same kind of garbage like before then I am definitely done with Nintendo.
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I think the game looks great! Im looking forward to playing it, and I love how the Koroks appear in this game!
I thibk this game takes place after Wind Waker. The Koroks have accomplished their mission of draining the great sea, to unite the islands into one, like stated in the Wind Waker. Thats why there are Koroks still around. And maybe the Rito are there too? The did appear in Twilight Princess HD as an easteregg for this game, on the walls of the path that leads from castle town to the castle, carved on the walls, which is impossible by the way, since they dont exist on that time period.
I'm also looking forward to see the gorons! You can see Death Mountain from a distance and I want to go there! And I am wandering if the Deku tree is going to be around and the Great Valloo.
What do you guys think?
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you could be right:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClBF4LxWIAA51mb.jpg)
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Not sure what you lot mean by "graphics", but it's really pleasing my eyes
Sure detail is quickly lost over distance, but got to leave something to look forward to in the NX version I guess :p
Really reminds me of sitting back and having fun with minecraft for the first time
A whole new world, with absolutely no idea of what the limits are, how you go about doing things is all left up to you etc
When I read about zelda being open world I was concerned, because all these open world games of late don't appeal to me at all, with the idea sounding great, but the execution just boring as hell.
This though, doesn't leave me with that feeling. In fact I can't wait to dive in a just get lost.
Then again, I loved sailing around the great sea and coming across all sorts of cool things. Nintendo's great when it comes to attention to detail, polish and just giving the world a sense of wonder, and I'm seeing absolutely tons of that here.
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When I read about Zelda being open world I was concerned
Seconded, most of the open world games I've played got boring after a little while because all the fluff they filled it with was the same stuff repeated. But the great sea in Wind Waker was an open world back on GameCube, and it wasn't even boring. I think mainly because each island was so different and clearly had some story or mystery behind it, even if you never found out what it was. Like that one island made of cubes, I loved that one.
Maybe they're just keeping things on the down low for now, but from what I've seen its just moblin camp after moblin camp.
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well there's just the "start area" in the e3 demo, i don't believe that ist just 2%... but at least its ensured that there are around 3-4 big Areas around the area which should contain at least more than moblins to fight... ( i still wait to see actual Settlements, the game title lets me fear to see endless nature )
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you could be right:
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It could also be referring to Skyward Sword's Sand Sea, which is more ancient than Wind Waker's. :P And there are SS references since Hylia herself is referenced and a statue is seen within the Temple of Time. Also I don't feel Korok is enough proof to back up the timeline placement just yet either. No one has countered any of these points:
- How can the Triforce's wish be undone?
- How can an ocean dry out within a 100 years?
- Why did Sheikah technology suddenly pop up?
- Why has some land formations dramatically changed? It appears Hyrule Castle is no longer surrounded by a lake.
There's probably more, but honestly, post Wind Waker never made much sense when I first heard about it. Korok are Kokiri right? Who's to say they evolved in other timelines too for different reasons? Heck, they disappeared in the Child and Decline timelines and in A Link Between Worlds you see Koroks in paintings and in Twilight Princess HD you see Rito stone carvings along Hyrule Castle's walls (these were new additions). So honestly, I don't think it's post-Wind Waker... anywhere is still a huge possibility. Maybe this time it's up to our interpretations as to where it sits, I'd like that more personally.
In any case, the new Zelda is amazing. The graphics look better than Wii U to me honestly. Also we ARE going to see villagers and whatnot. They took them out for demo and spoiler-free purposes. ;)
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Game looks nice enough. I'm happy i don't have to deal with waggling my hand to attack FU SS! NEVER FORGET!!
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Game looks nice enough. I'm happy i don't have to deal with waggling my hand to attack FU SS! NEVER FORGET!!
Better Forget! and wait for SS HD ;-) w/o timey winey wiggely waggeling controls
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my body is ready
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my body is ready
my body is reggie 8)
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(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/I+don+t+always+reggie+my+body+is+ready_50d7be_4711890.jpg)
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I have mixed feelings. I like that there FINALLY seems to be voice acting and an open world. It looks like fun to walk around in it (the wall climbing and sliding on a shield is a nice touch). Though I wonder how long walking and flying around will stay fun seeing as the world is so vast and feels somewhat empty from what I've seen so far.
Just wanted to mention that they specifically stated that the demo is not fully representative of the full game. They removed all NPCs and towns and stuff from the area for the E3 demo to avoid any kind of story spoilers or such. Hearing them state that, I feel a bit better about how empty the demo felt especially since there was enough there to keep me interested as it is.
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I honestly lost interest the longer I watched the livestream. I had plenty of time at work to watch it without interruptions and it just felt unimpressive to me. If this iteration had already been released as a Wii U launch title or 2013, I would have felt different. Now, there are so many openworld games that it doesn't feel inspired in any way from my perspective.
The whole Amiibo, bring an ally, seems like a straight money grab as well. I get it and all, but it jsut didn't sit right with me.
Nothing about what they showed felt like a real Zelda title. Sure, you had Link and a HUD and stuff, but where was the dungeon expo? Where were the awesome puzzles? Where were some concept item usage? All you got was crafting(every other rpg since Minecraft/Elder Scrolls), weapon inventory other than main sword(I know they been playing with this since Wind Waker but I never felt it belonged in a Zelda title), and some gimmick surfboard on your shield stuff.
As I watched the stream, I really thought I was watching SotC 2 with Zelda skinned over everything. To me, that isn't a Zelda title. I guess my love for the Zelda franchise begins at LoZ then ended at TP(even that felt a little too big at times). No issues with huge Zelda games in general but if trekking across a giant overworld gives you the feeling that your $60 was well spent, you might as well grab TES games for dirt cheap on steam and walk around out there.
That said, I will probably pick it up in a couple years at $20 to experience it one time to truly see if I will enjoy it. Too many other titles I am interested in this year.
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im stoked for it but im gonna wait on the NX version man
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Game looks nice enough. I'm happy i don't have to deal with waggling my hand to attack FU SS! NEVER FORGET!!
Better Forget! and wait for SS HD ;-) w/o timey winey wiggely waggeling controls
Haha, oh SS :(
I honestly lost interest the longer I watched the livestream. I had plenty of time at work to watch it without interruptions and it just felt unimpressive to me. If this iteration had already been released as a Wii U launch title or 2013, I would have felt different. Now, there are so many openworld games that it doesn't feel inspired in any way from my perspective.
The whole Amiibo, bring an ally, seems like a straight money grab as well. I get it and all, but it jsut didn't sit right with me.
Nothing about what they showed felt like a real Zelda title. Sure, you had Link and a HUD and stuff, but where was the dungeon expo? Where were the awesome puzzles? Where were some concept item usage? All you got was crafting(every other rpg since Minecraft/Elder Scrolls), weapon inventory other than main sword(I know they been playing with this since Wind Waker but I never felt it belonged in a Zelda title), and some gimmick surfboard on your shield stuff.
As I watched the stream, I really thought I was watching SotC 2 with Zelda skinned over everything. To me, that isn't a Zelda title. I guess my love for the Zelda franchise begins at LoZ then ended at TP(even that felt a little too big at times). No issues with huge Zelda games in general but if trekking across a giant overworld gives you the feeling that your $60 was well spent, you might as well grab TES games for dirt cheap on steam and walk around out there.
That said, I will probably pick it up in a couple years at $20 to experience it one time to truly see if I will enjoy it. Too many other titles I am interested in this year.
The main sword might not even be usable for awhile lol. The main thing of that treehouse was "you can find weapons to use, they break".
Which seems irritating to me. I don't wanna fight Gohma and have my damn weapon break during the battle and be like !@#$% wtf do i do.
im stoked for it but im gonna wait on the NX version man
Not stoked enough nutmeg! Buy all the versions! At least 5x the copies.
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Nothing about what they showed felt like a real Zelda title. Sure, you had Link and a HUD and stuff, but where was the dungeon expo? Where were the awesome puzzles? Where were some concept item usage? All you got was crafting(every other rpg since Minecraft/Elder Scrolls), weapon inventory other than main sword(I know they been playing with this since Wind Waker but I never felt it belonged in a Zelda title), and some gimmick surfboard on your shield stuff.
didn't that count?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4FMrndVpWs
i mean they only showed the starting area, but for that its a pretty good start
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in a couple years at $20
Unless you mean second hand or something, then I have a feeling you're going to have a rather hard time doing that considering the way Nintendo games keep their prices.
Anyway, to re-iterate what said stream already showed the world many times over, the entire concept since the game was revealed last year is about breaking zelda conventions. Didn't sound like the safest bet for zelda fans to me either at the time, and especially to me as I prefer being lead through a solidly designed story more than just the big promise but shallow execution of current "open world" games, but considering the reception, it seems like it's going very well actually.
The wolf link amiibo is currently only available for those that got it with TP HD. It's them giving that amiibo more usages/value after release to those that went and got it, more than just forcing you to go out and buy it as some sort of DLC.
I have to admit that I've barely played the original zelda, but it's supposedly like a 3D spiritual successor to it in terms of the world and how you go about tackling it all, where your hand isn't held and you can get yourself killed very easily.
There will be dungeons apparently, but also small "shrines", which they showed 4 of on stream, and of which there are over 100 of. They also showed a variety of new weapons/tools which can be used in various ways to again interact with the environment and create all sorts of opportunities to further tackle whatever other puzzles/the world itself.
However, they also specifically said that they weren't showing any story, including towns/dungeons etc to not spoil anything for anyone who may tune in and watch at any time, considering they were streaming throughout the entire day, and to also just focus on the gameplay and the feel of the world which said gameplay takes place in, which alone was apparently enough to make queues the size of the 10 year prior wii ones for the one game Nintendo filled its entire booth space with (which was the same size as always), and still not be enough for everyone, even with > 30 min sessions just in the starting area, which says a lot.
The inventory as well, while may seem like something done over and over for eternity, is actually done in a way I myself haven't exactly seen before, and seems to cure a very big problem that plagues such systems up until now. That being, the hoarding of items to just tediously sell when you get the chance for a little bit of cash, only switching weapons very rarely and generally sticking to the same thing the entire game in the end. With this game however, with everything breaking very easily and there always being a ton of options and variety of things to pick up in the world, the game forces you to try out all sorts to survive, meaning all those weapons aren't just going to waste.
It may look like a your generic open world "wow its so big... but shallow" stuff at a glance, but seeing and hearing about the opportunities the environment throws at you all the time and how you can use what you have at hand, and also need to make use of what its available, in a very polished Nintendo way (which honestly is hugely important here imo), to tackle problems that do not have one "hookshot to target" correct way, does give off a very minecraft feel indeed, with when first playing the game and not having any idea what was possible and where the limits were and what adventures are waiting. That sense of wonder was gaming heaven and if this zelda can bring anything like it, on top of core zelda puzzle solving gameplay, even if it is really mixed up this time (but you can bet the entire game is still completely based around those same concepts), then I can't wait to dive in myself.
Of course you can never please absolutely everyone and I'm still not sure about a link between worlds, another recent zelda that got a good shaking up (even though I had enough fun pretty much 100%-ing it I guess), but I'm excited for it after seeing all the footage and hearing all the stories, to the level of making me wonder if we were watching the same stream? :p
Just going to paste the link from my previous post again here, that summarises what we saw of the game with lots of lovely gifs
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1233823
Which seems irritating to me. I don't wanna fight Gohma and have my damn weapon break during the battle and be like !@#$% wtf do i do.
Isn't that the whole idea? To, well, dive in and just deal with stuff when it happens and you either die cause you suck or you do something about it and pull it off which should feel pretty awesome. Or, you plan, gear, up and go in with your well planned out strategy. They're not going to just have everything break all the time and leave you with nothing to fight a boss with. But, this time, they also seem to be adding in a hard mode in the sense that you can dive into fights way out of your league (or maybe not depending on your skill level) if you want to give yourself a challenge.
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in a couple years at $20
Unless you mean second hand or something, then I have a feeling you're going to have a rather hard time doing that considering the way Nintendo games keep their prices.
Anyway, to re-iterate what said stream already showed the world many times over, the entire concept since the game was revealed last year is about breaking zelda conventions. Didn't sound like the safest bet for zelda fans to me either at the time, and especially to me as I prefer being lead through a solidly designed story more than just the big promise but shallow execution of current "open world" games, but considering the reception, it seems like it's going very well actually.
The wolf link amiibo is currently only available for those that got it with TP HD. It's them giving that amiibo more usages/value after release to those that went and got it, more than just forcing you to go out and buy it as some sort of DLC.
I have to admit that I've barely played the original zelda, but it's supposedly like a 3D spiritual successor to it in terms of the world and how you go about tackling it all, where your hand isn't held and you can get yourself killed very easily.
There will be dungeons apparently, but also small "shrines", which they showed 4 of on stream, and of which there are over 100 of. They also showed a variety of new weapons/tools which can be used in various ways to again interact with the environment and create all sorts of opportunities to further tackle whatever other puzzles/the world itself.
However, they also specifically said that they weren't showing any story, including towns/dungeons etc to not spoil anything for anyone who may tune in and watch at any time, considering they were streaming throughout the entire day, and to also just focus on the gameplay and the feel of the world which said gameplay takes place in, which alone was apparently enough to make queues the size of the 10 year prior wii ones for the one game Nintendo filled its entire booth space with (which was the same size as always), and still not be enough for everyone, even with > 30 min sessions just in the starting area, which says a lot.
The inventory as well, while may seem like something done over and over for eternity, is actually done in a way I myself haven't exactly seen before, and seems to cure a very big problem that plagues such systems up until now. That being, the hoarding of items to just tediously sell when you get the chance for a little bit of cash, only switching weapons very rarely and generally sticking to the same thing the entire game in the end. With this game however, with everything breaking very easily and there always being a ton of options and variety of things to pick up in the world, the game forces you to try out all sorts to survive, meaning all those weapons aren't just going to waste.
It may look like a your generic open world "wow its so big... but shallow" stuff at a glance, but seeing and hearing about the opportunities the environment throws at you all the time and how you can use what you have at hand, and also need to make use of what its available, in a very polished Nintendo way (which honestly is hugely important here imo), to tackle problems that do not have one "hookshot to target" correct way, does give off a very minecraft feel indeed, with when first playing the game and not having any idea what was possible and where the limits were and what adventures are waiting. That sense of wonder was gaming heaven and if this zelda can bring anything like it, on top of core zelda puzzle solving gameplay, even if it is really mixed up this time (but you can bet the entire game is still completely based around those same concepts), then I can't wait to dive in myself.
Of course you can never please absolutely everyone and I'm still not sure about a link between worlds, another recent zelda that got a good shaking up (even though I had enough fun pretty much 100%-ing it I guess), but I'm excited for it after seeing all the footage and hearing all the stories, to the level of making me wonder if we were watching the same stream? :p
Just going to paste the link from my previous post again here, that summarises what we saw of the game with lots of lovely gifs
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1233823
Which seems irritating to me. I don't wanna fight Gohma and have my damn weapon break during the battle and be like !@#$% wtf do i do.
Isn't that the whole idea? To, well, dive in and just deal with stuff when it happens and you either die cause you suck or you do something about it and pull it off which should feel pretty awesome. Or, you plan, gear, up and go in with your well planned out strategy. They're not going to just have everything break all the time and leave you with nothing to fight a boss with. But, this time, they also seem to be adding in a hard mode in the sense that you can dive into fights way out of your league (or maybe not depending on your skill level) if you want to give yourself a challenge.
If i die because i suck at the game fine, but i don't want to die because i'm stuck without a weapon because the weapons i find keep breaking. That's not fun to me lol. But it's Nintendo, i'm sure they'll figure something out for people like me who don't want that much of a hassle.
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The main thing of that treehouse was "you can find weapons to use, they break".
Which seems irritating to me. I don't wanna fight Gohma and have my damn weapon break during the battle and be like !@#$% wtf do i do.
Isn't that the whole idea? To, well, dive in and just deal with stuff when it happens and you either die cause you suck or you do something about it and pull it off which should feel pretty awesome. Or, you plan, gear, up and go in with your well planned out strategy. They're not going to just have everything break all the time and leave you with nothing to fight a boss with. But, this time, they also seem to be adding in a hard mode in the sense that you can dive into fights way out of your league (or maybe not depending on your skill level) if you want to give yourself a challenge.
It actually seems more realistic than other weapon "durability" mechanics seen in the Zelda series.
- In Zelda 1, arrows, once fired, are spent forever. You can't pick them up again, despite the fact that in the real world, arrows are reusable.
- In addition, Zelda 1 has the Magical Shield that can be eaten by Like Likes. Not exactly durability-related, but the fact that it's an item that can go away with use (i.e. unsuccessful use against a Like Like, ya scrub) still makes this warrant a mention.
- In Ocarina of Time, Deku Sticks on fire can be saved in they are Put Away before they burn down. Um, I'm pretty sure that if Link tried placing something burning into his pack, he'd not last much longer on his adventure.
- Also in Ocarina of Time, the Giant's Knife can deal a certain number of hits before breaking. And then, it has to be reforged. Same with the Razor Sword in Majora's Mask. Okay, that makes more sense. Where was the problem there?
- Twilight Princess was the first game, I believe, where Link could pick up arrows that were already shot, but only if certain conditions were met. Like, if an arrow was shot into a tree. That makes absolute sense.
- Skyward Sword make shield durability a big thing. An added strategy-based mechanic includes the elemental aspect of shields, with wooden shields being susceptible to fire but not electricity and magin, iron shields conduct electricity but don't burn, and magical shields repel both but are considerably weaker. Then there's the reward for fighting through the Boss Rush mode: the unbreakable - but still metal? - Hylian Shield.
I'm guessing the developers are going to be smart enough to avoid putting you into situations where a weapon is required and there's no way out unless you have a weapon, but wait if you don't have a weapon there's one dinky little one right over there. It'd technically be weaker than other weapons you could find/steal/appropriate from baddies, but it'd still be a weapon. (PRO TIP: the infinite bombs you can make with the Shiekah Slate also qualify...)
So basically, Nintendo is taking a mechanic prevalent to Minecraft and applying it to Zelda, and that's not a good thing? Yeah, in Minecraft you can break your super-enchanted Diamond Sword even whilst you are fighting against the Ender Dragon (or multiple!) and suddenly you're left without a weapon. Whoops.
Same idea with Zelda, even though you can likely still find (or steal?) another weapon when needed.
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well, when i read those posts about durability of weapons i just think that we are talking here (and only have seen) cheap stuff from lowlevel enemies and placed somewhere in the woods... but i'm 100% sure that "special" weapons like/including the master sword and the hylian shield exist which don't break and maybe can be even reforged like in the 2D Zeldas (L-1/2/3/4) to do more damage.
And I'm guessing too, that the kind of weapon matters against the enemy you're facing... we've seen so far a spear, hammer, axe, sword, firerod and club
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It would be hilarious if the same durability rules applied to the master sword lol
If i die because i suck at the game fine, but i don't want to die because i'm stuck without a weapon because the weapons i find keep breaking. That's not fun to me lol. But it's Nintendo, i'm sure they'll figure something out for people like me who don't want that much of a hassle.
Who knows how dungeon like places and places out of the plateau will be like, but while there does seem to be emphasis on "gearing up", from the footage, it does look like you'll still be ending up with weapons faster than they can break. I suppose it'll just mean you end up with a less than great weapon every now and then when certain unexpected things happen that you weren't quite ready for, which is when you'll have to step your game up to deal with said unexpected situations, which I personally is something I love, especially in zelda games. It wouldn't be zelda if everything was straight forward with no thinking.
It would also just be terrible game design to have a puzzle (boss) and no way of actually solving it just because something that happens all the time in the game (weapons breaking) also happens during that puzzle (which by the look of things will be very commonplace anyway, so to overlook it would be insane.)
In the footage, there was some big stone thing which seemed rather tough, but seeing as you can come across all sorts, not in a specific order, it doesn't mean that everyone should be able to deal with that puzzle right there and then. That's often been the case in zelda though, having to go back once you get a very specific item. This time though, it looks like there'll be various natural ways of solving said problems thanks to how free everything is and also with stuff like the physics engine also being very generous.
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Also note that durability also depends whether you use your item correctly. A fire rod (it can be found in the demo) will break if you use it as a physical item. Chopping down a tree with a non-axe item will make your item break quickly too. So it's a matter of your actions too that determine the durability of your items which I like. I wouldn't mind a punching attack to knock items out of monsters hands or something. Usually the game provides you with items when a puzzle demands it, so I imagine boss battles will be the same. That or you will NOT be locked in with the boss and no weapon, and can freely leave (refilling the bosses health too perhaps). That'd be something for Nintendo to consider.
Also as for dungeons, there were trials which act as mini-dungeons (optional minus the first four). I am calling it: the Temple of Time is a dungeon... looks too important not to be one. If not, then aw well. Anyone noticed the Temple of Time has the Song of Time slowed down and fragmented? Pretty cool.
Also the voice might definitely be Zelda's as you can hear Zelda's Lullaby in a cutscene with the voice. It's piano only, slow and fragmented too.
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Item management looks like a tedious mess though. But granted that also applies to games like Fallout and The Elder Scrolls. So they just kept it simple I suppose.
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Doesn't look like you can carry tons, and it breaks all the time, so I guess it manages itself in a sense :p
The music though, yeah, that too seems to show the same feelings as the world itself, broken, faint memories of the past (quiet songs, slowed down and broken up).
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The main thing of that treehouse was "you can find weapons to use, they break".
Which seems irritating to me. I don't wanna fight Gohma and have my damn weapon break during the battle and be like !@#$% wtf do i do.
Isn't that the whole idea? To, well, dive in and just deal with stuff when it happens and you either die cause you suck or you do something about it and pull it off which should feel pretty awesome. Or, you plan, gear, up and go in with your well planned out strategy. They're not going to just have everything break all the time and leave you with nothing to fight a boss with. But, this time, they also seem to be adding in a hard mode in the sense that you can dive into fights way out of your league (or maybe not depending on your skill level) if you want to give yourself a challenge.
It actually seems more realistic than other weapon "durability" mechanics seen in the Zelda series.
- In Zelda 1, arrows, once fired, are spent forever. You can't pick them up again, despite the fact that in the real world, arrows are reusable.
- In addition, Zelda 1 has the Magical Shield that can be eaten by Like Likes. Not exactly durability-related, but the fact that it's an item that can go away with use (i.e. unsuccessful use against a Like Like, ya scrub) still makes this warrant a mention.
- In Ocarina of Time, Deku Sticks on fire can be saved in they are Put Away before they burn down. Um, I'm pretty sure that if Link tried placing something burning into his pack, he'd not last much longer on his adventure.
- Also in Ocarina of Time, the Giant's Knife can deal a certain number of hits before breaking. And then, it has to be reforged. Same with the Razor Sword in Majora's Mask. Okay, that makes more sense. Where was the problem there?
- Twilight Princess was the first game, I believe, where Link could pick up arrows that were already shot, but only if certain conditions were met. Like, if an arrow was shot into a tree. That makes absolute sense.
- Skyward Sword make shield durability a big thing. An added strategy-based mechanic includes the elemental aspect of shields, with wooden shields being susceptible to fire but not electricity and magin, iron shields conduct electricity but don't burn, and magical shields repel both but are considerably weaker. Then there's the reward for fighting through the Boss Rush mode: the unbreakable - but still metal? - Hylian Shield.
I'm guessing the developers are going to be smart enough to avoid putting you into situations where a weapon is required and there's no way out unless you have a weapon, but wait if you don't have a weapon there's one dinky little one right over there. It'd technically be weaker than other weapons you could find/steal/appropriate from baddies, but it'd still be a weapon. (PRO TIP: the infinite bombs you can make with the Shiekah Slate also qualify...)
So basically, Nintendo is taking a mechanic prevalent to Minecraft and applying it to Zelda, and that's not a good thing? Yeah, in Minecraft you can break your super-enchanted Diamond Sword even whilst you are fighting against the Ender Dragon (or multiple!) and suddenly you're left without a weapon. Whoops.
Same idea with Zelda, even though you can likely still find (or steal?) another weapon when needed.
Hopefully they won't put you in the situation lol, i didn't know you could use endless bombs using the little Gamepad in game thing. That's pretty cool.