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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2009, 03:42:35 am »
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I say more discussion boards. Face it: there's people who don't program here. And some of them only come because they've come 3+ years ago. DJvenom's logic of "You shouldn't come here if you don't program" is horribly flawed, and since he's not really in power anymore there can be change from that. I don't have to remind you that this is just my opinion though, right?
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2009, 06:53:01 pm »
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What more discussion forums could we possibly need? Although the staff could probably be less harsh on it. More from me on that later.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2009, 11:51:48 pm »
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Ok, here is a comparison of things from this site, and from the old ZFGC site.

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The latter is from the old site. Tell me, which is shorter and more simplistic? Again, I'm for both parties here. The ones who have no interest in programming and just want to be part of the community, and those who are all for the game stuff. Perhaps a revision of the rules would make the staff seem less neo-nazi and make the community more willing to post content without fear of breaking a rule.

Now, take a look at this: http://z15.invisionfree.com/ZFGC_X/index.php?act=idx
Take special notice of the forum layout. Do you see much more specifc forums that accurately showed where to post what? Yeah, now look at this site's layout and tell me which one is better.

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I'll go even further to "simplify" the site. I've noticed on ZFGC-X that the WIP forum only had two pages of games on it, but all of them had content to show and were actually getting updated. I have also taken notice to the specific "Programming and Coding Help" forum within the Development section. Lots of topics there, too. And lots of replies.

Another thing I noticed was a specific "Off-Topic" forum in the Community section. Granted, it had the most topics and posts in the entire site, but everyone had fun in there. It was kickback and relax.

Also, I noticed more specific forums established for Indie games. I can't see much of that here except the lone "Other WIP" forum.

Oh, you know what else I noticed? Most of the games being made at that site were being made by at least two of the members together. The games were mini-community projects, and members helped eachother.

~Jeod's second thought of the day
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2009, 12:53:25 am »
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Jeod, please just edit your post next time if you have something new to you original thoughts to add and only a small amount of time has gone by - the warning system for some reason doesn't currently work correctly in the Announcements board.

As for the rules, some of the rule differences here are caused by just the atmosphere of this place as compared to the other one having a different atmosphere and how certain users here will sometimes do things and then point to the rules saying that it is alright to do as what they did was not defined. The rules here can be made simpler - the administration has changed a bit so the rules may be emended in the future. Some of the rules in boards such as Community Speak also will be rewritten as they are no longer relevant to the current state of the forum.

As for the board layout, there are changes coming that will be for team and community projects. As for having Indie be more expanded, having more boards taking up vertical space while getting hardly any active posting in them is something that is to be avoided.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2009, 01:16:43 am »
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Hmm, people tend to want power in this forum, I find no way to stop it.. hmmmmm well, I have a question to ask the staff.. you have 3 pages full of what changes do the users want.. IMO it is time to make a topic about "What Changes the Staff will apply?" so we can argue the ones that got accepted and passed this preliminary round.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2009, 01:28:45 am »
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Quote from: Kren on March 14, 2009, 01:16:43 am
Hmm, people tend to want power in this forum, I find no way to stop it.. hmmmmm well, I have a question to ask the staff.. you have 3 pages full of what changes do the users want.. IMO it is time to make a topic about "What Changes the Staff will apply?" so we can argue the ones that got accepted and passed this preliminary round.
Will do in a bit. Going to leave this topic open for a few more days so the less active members can post first.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2009, 01:30:07 am »
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How about until March 18? That's when the poll ends on the community project topic.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2009, 02:21:22 am »
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Quote from: Jeod on March 14, 2009, 01:30:07 am
How about until March 18? That's when the poll ends on the community project topic.
hmm no offense but I think that Infini already took that decision with help of the other staff >_>.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2009, 03:42:00 am »
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Really, really late (and probably old), but what I think this forum needs is a fresh batch of members. So advertising, cross-site promotions with some affiliates -- just get ZFGC out there. It feels so closed in right now, imo.

Sorry again if that's been discusses before, but, yeah, there's my opinion.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2009, 10:18:32 am »
Quote from: D-Pad on March 15, 2009, 03:42:00 am
Really, really late (and probably old), but what I think this forum needs is a fresh batch of members. So advertising, cross-site promotions with some affiliates -- just get ZFGC out there. It feels so closed in right now, imo.

Sorry again if that's been discusses before, but, yeah, there's my opinion.
I have a feeling that your post pretty much summarizes the staff's intention, so I believe "that would be the name of the game" in the near future. Of course, I am only assuming ;-).
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2009, 04:20:30 pm »
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Quote from: Basniak/gm112 on March 15, 2009, 10:18:32 am
Quote from: D-Pad on March 15, 2009, 03:42:00 am
Really, really late (and probably old), but what I think this forum needs is a fresh batch of members. So advertising, cross-site promotions with some affiliates -- just get ZFGC out there. It feels so closed in right now, imo.

Sorry again if that's been discusses before, but, yeah, there's my opinion.
I have a feeling that your post pretty much summarizes the staff's intention, so I believe "that would be the name of the game" in the near future. Of course, I am only assuming ;-).
It's something that could be done right now. I'm sure the admins are busy with stuff but I'm sure staff members could go to different forums to advertise unless those forums don't allow advertising your site through topics so there's always the signature route.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2009, 11:04:51 pm »
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So basically;

Either;

- Reorganise the forum, add some community boards.
- Produce more content about general development.
- Setup the community project.
- Distill all rules down to pretty much "Don't post illegal content, don't post subject-less topics or meaningless replies".
- Unban a lot of the users who were banned for frivilous rules (eg. discuss rule)
- Redesign a lot of the site, remove DICKBUTT, build up resource database, have more emphesis on game design.

Or;

- Kill the forum, recreate from scratch.


I know its not exactly the most comprehensive list, but its hard to distill 4 pages of "wall-o-text" posts into bulletpoints.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2009, 11:07:09 pm »
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I kinda feel like maybe just reorganizing/redesigning/revamping the forum would be in favor, especially after unbanning certain users.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2009, 11:08:06 pm »
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Try the first, do the second one if the first fails. If both fail, well poop.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2009, 11:26:29 pm »
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I can't believe I'm saying this but maybe the whole forum should be redone. Cleaning everything up would be best and some stuff would be easier to keep track of. That's just me.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #55 on: March 17, 2009, 03:04:25 am »
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I actually have a compelling idea that goes with the second option. If we're going to start anew with a new name and everything, then our community project would make more sense if it were not about Zelda, right? With the amount of discussion we've all had with eachother over the last few years of this forum's existence, is it completely unreasonable to make the community project a game based off Phoenix Wright?

Think about it. The gameplay is the easiest thing to design, and the storyline is the biggest part. Each case is carefully built so everything fits in perfectly, and the amount of difficulty to actually get through the game requires deep thought. I think with the combined logic of our minds, we can make some pretty powerful cases.

It all meshes together, too. Stemming from the second option, we start over. New name, new focus. Then we want advertising, and what better way to advertise than with the substance we can give by making a game based off something that no fan games have been based off of yet?

Zelda has been done over and over. Phoenix Wright is a unique style, both in gameplay and story. It works well with the option, but only with the second option.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #56 on: March 17, 2009, 03:36:40 am »
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No more "redoing" or "redesigning".

Just trash it and start new.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #57 on: March 17, 2009, 04:16:34 am »
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http://www.court-records.net/casemakers.shtml

My bad, seems there's quite a few fan dubs out there. =(
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #58 on: March 17, 2009, 04:34:26 am »
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meh wwe can still make a Phoenix wright game, but with kids lol like.. someone stole the barbie from you neighbor and you need to explore :P.
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Re: What Changes Do You Want?
« Reply #59 on: March 17, 2009, 12:24:42 pm »
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Well, why does it have to be a specific game? Also,...why Phoenix Wright? Hehe.

I guess if we make it a general fangaming forum with no Zelda title, it would be too general. Well, either way I'll follow.
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