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Entertainment / Re: Zelda Timeline

« on: August 12, 2006, 08:29:58 pm »

Just ot let you know, the Four Sword series of games (FSA, TMC, etc.) were all officially stated to be completely separate from the Ganon series. So, I'd advise you not to include them in the same timelines.

Anywho, I would have put it like this:
OoT -> Obviously the first since it involves Ganondorf's origin and Ganon's birth from the 'Dorf
MM -> Officially a direct sequel to OoT
TP -> Stated to take place mere decades after OoT and MM
ALttP -> Takes place a long time after the events of OoT (even references them). However, Hyrule is not yet sunk.
OoA/OoS -> These two go one after the order depending on when you played them. Link in it is alrady refered to as the hero of Hyrule at the start of the game, so it stands to reason that he is a previous hero. Since in OoT he is never acknowledged as a hero because of going back in time to before Hyrule went all dark, he never would noticeably save it. Also, in TLoZ, he saves Zelda more than he really does Hyrule. It therefore stands to reason that the only Link that could be recognized as Hyrule's hero would be the one from ALttP.
LA -> The start of it takes place when Link is returning to Hyrule from other places. Coming back from Labrynia and Holdrum I'd say?
LoZ -> It's still Hyrule and unsunk. Thus, before TWW
AoL -> It's the same Link from LoZ when he's nearly 16.
TWW -> This happens centuries after the events of OoT, leaving plenty of time for all the other games in between. Hyrule is now flooded and no more.
PH -> Happens months after TWW with the same Link and Tetra.

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MC -> Explains Vaati's origins and the origin of the Four Sword
FS (GBA) -> Vaati is sealed away and is released.
FSA (GCN) -> This is the sequel to the first FS.

And that's how I see it.

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Graphics / Re: JW Productions Logo (in PS)

« on: August 12, 2006, 07:49:26 pm »

It looks nice and all, but it seems a bit much for a logo. Logos tend to be nice, but simple. That way it's easy to slap them onto your stuff and change them to fit.

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Discussion / Re: People, Don't Worry About Resources Getting Stolen - and other advice

« on: August 12, 2006, 06:32:18 pm »

Any sound can be stolen with a decent microphone,

Actually, it's possible even without a microphone and with little to no quality loss.

Also, another thing. Do NOT ask to be credited if you rip sprites. It's just organizing sprites that you didn't even make. It takes little effort. If you have huge tilesets, or even small things, you can of course ask for credit, but don't say "give me credit" - say "if you'd like, I'd appreciate some credit for my hard work".

Yup, my stance exactly.

And don't go around prancing about game titles, what you want in your game, anything. Make the damn game. By yourself. Don't just add Link walking and then quit. I have not seen one GOOD Zelda fangame finished. Not one. Finally, if you are a spriter, don't be an !@#$% - help people out. No one can get anything done without SPRITERS

I've seen a couple good ones done. Darkness Uprising was pretty good, and people enjoyed the one I made a long time ago (and have yet to repost). Also a lot of the ones from the game comp. oh so long ago were short, but awesome. Navi Blast was great! Not to mention the rest of the awesomeness. I still have all of them saved on my second hard drive.

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Coding / Re: Ok, choose what you want to be continued here...

« on: August 12, 2006, 06:03:41 pm »

Wow... they're all even! Makes the poll seem sort of useless, doesn't it?

I vote Ninja Story. It's more original than another OoT. And I obviously can't pass up anything involving NINJAS!

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Entertainment / Re: Snakes on a Plane is rated...

« on: August 12, 2006, 04:47:31 am »

Luckily I live in Quebec where everything is rated one level lower than it should. I'm fairly certain that Miami Vice deserved something higher than PG-13. .

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Discussion / Re: TI BASIC

« on: August 12, 2006, 03:09:05 am »

Heh, TI Basic is horribly slow and can only handle just a few things at once. The most advanced thing I managed to make with it is a small game where you can move a pixel-sized "ship" around and fire pixel "bullets" at "walls" to destroy them.
Seeing how it's so damn slow, you can't move while until your "bullet" is destroyed or outside the screen.

No, you can get some decent games on it, they just have to be really simple. I made a pretty good minesweeper myself. It had randomized levels and everything.

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Discussion / Re: TI BASIC

« on: August 11, 2006, 05:20:32 pm »

You sure the Zelda game was made with Basic and not ASM? I know Basic and it's fairly simple, yet it seems too limited to make a decent Zelda game. Mostly because pretty much only one thing can happen at once.

Anywho, there are three ways to learn it:
1. Download a relativel simple game and screw around with its code to learn how it works. I did that with a game called Pimp Quest, which was really just menus and variable storing. I learned to fiddle with it and implement my own stuff.

2. Go to the TI site and download the full manual. In it is a section that shows you what each Basic command does. Then you can experiment to what does or does not work

3. Combine those two

It's all pretty straight-forward. If you understand the concept of an If-Then-Else function, you can pretty much start programming. One tip that I can give you that isn't obvious from the start is the colon (":"). That is the symbol which separates lines. It's usefull for organizing things like grouping short commands together. For example:

Code: [Select]

Instead of:
:If A>10
:Then
:Disp "Number!"
:End

You can use:
:If A>10:Then
:Disp "Number!"
:EndIt doesn't do anything towards efficiency or performance, just makes it manageable and faster to scroll down. Which is a big thing when you've got loads of code and you have to wait to scroll all the way to the bottom to find something. Trust me, it's annoying. The only danger is that pushing CLEAR eliminates the entire line. So if you have a lot on one line you could ruin your code.

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Debates / Re: Is Thor real?

« on: August 09, 2006, 11:58:05 pm »

the christian, jewish and islamic God are all the same God. Allah is not another god, only the Arab word for "god", like "dieu" is "god" french.

Here's a quote for you:

There is no God, but Allah.

I've butchered that open. Straight from the Koran.

All that means is that there is only one true God. I've also read bits of the Koran. Especially that little bit which says exactly what I did.

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Other Projects / Re: GangWars Online! Playable beta demo...

« on: August 09, 2006, 11:54:35 pm »

Yeah I figured out your secret. It's pretty well done, I must say. The only problem is that I couldn't be my CB! Had to go with the evil AR.

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Debates / Re: Is Thor real?

« on: August 09, 2006, 11:41:06 pm »

yes but now we know its not real.It started because they  liked beliving in it.They would make sacrifices which is wrong.Why would you kill someone just to make someone happy.Thats murder.Its still arround but now known as a cult.

First off, religions don't just start because "they liked believing in it". It wasn't just some fad. It was a full-fledged religion. The only two differences between it and christianity are the polytheism and the fact that it's died down. Next, you don't kill someone to make someone else happy, you sacrifice something you care about (that's why it's a sacrifice and not just a ritual burning), in this case another human being, to your God(s) in order to show them that you respect him(them) above all and to show your gratitude for XXX event. Finally, a cult isn't just people who sacrifice others. A cult is really just a very, very minor religion usually based around the promise of a better life if they follow the leader's instructions. Sort of like Chosen People striving for a Promised Land (now where have I heard that before?). The stereotypes infer that ritual suicide (using spiked kool-aid) would take place at a predisposed time in order to reach said promised land. It has happened and it's sad, but that's not what a cult is. It's really just a minor religion.

But (this is a real question)...WHO THE !@#$% BELIEVES IN THOR!? It's been proven that it's a myth. Myths are not real.

Oh??! It was PROVEN now was it? I must have missed that report. The one entitiled "Undeniable proof Thor was completely fictional!". What, was there an ancient Nordic tablet written by some old guy saying "I made them all up just for kicks!"? Nothing's been proven.

I'm sure he's a myth because, well, he's a myth.

Oh well NOW I'm convinced!

It wasn't proven to be true, that's why it's called Myth.
Noone can prove the bible is false, so not so much a "myth"

Plenty of things in the Bible have been proven false. People even spend their lives trying to disprove it. Also take note that the Bible hasn't been proven true either. Does that make it a myth too? On the other hand if it has been proven wrong it's closer to a book of lies, right?

I did not like the fact that you considered all Vikings to be drunk all of the time, but they did enjoy those types of beverages.  Was Thor real, yes he could have been.  Unfortunately, records are not that good and being real is a loose concept.  Religion to me is like glorified mythology that people want to claim as reality.  There is little doubt that Jesus of Nazareth existed as a real person, but all of the things he did and said are hard to believe.  In other words, there is history and historical fiction, and I am not going to draw the line where.  Thor could have been based on a real person and probably was.  That aspect of him was real.  The other things may have been tall tales, but Thor himself was loosely based on a real person, and that aspect to me made him real.  He could have also been born out of Norse ideas of perfection in battle, but his personification had to be based on someone.

Thank you 4Sword for finally hitting on the purpose of the topic! Yeah I believe that most, if not all of the Nordic gods, even the Egyptian or Greek gods of yore, were based on actual people. The one thing that leeds me to believe this is the fact that they all have complex back-stories and lineages with soap opera-esque plot twists and knots in their family trees. Doesn't it all seem very much like the way we track movie stars or famous peoples' lives? And since when were gods born? I thought that gods weren't supposed to have a start or end. They just are. With all that it could easily have been that stories and myths of the gods were exaggerated tales of heroes gone by, and accelerated into godliness. Hell, it's even possible that it was never a true religion but still a set of tabloid-y stories. Think of it this way: if we were to all drop dead right now and aliens were to come across our culture (the pop one as it were), would it not be possible that they percieve someone like Micheal Jackson to be a Satan like character who was once reveared then plummeted from his seat among the stars (oooh! double meaning!) and became a vile and wretched being hated by all but the foolish. Then someone like Robin Williams could end up being like Loki, the trickster, G. W. Bush would be the god of War, and to cap it all off we could have Elvis be the King among them. He would be reveared by all. HE even once came down from the heavens to fight among the people in wars and troubled times. Whle on Earth he died, let's say murdered, POISONED even, by the dark one known as Ozzy, servant of Jackson, who used his mind and body altering drugs to change and destroy the King. Years later, the King would return among the men and release his word once again... in a remix.

So, yeah... With the likelyhood of something like that happeing, I have no problem believing that gods were based on actual people when it comes to polytheism. Whether or not they were actual Gods however is something that can neither be proven or disproven, only believed and disbelieved... and just because you believe in anything doesn't make it true. That goes for all beliefs.

P.S.

Thor was a God, and there is no way to really prove any God. But, if Christiananity's God could be real, why not Thor.

Because Jesus wasn't a god, he was a man, the son of God. God himself has never been proven only the fact that someone alleging to be his offspring and people who claim they spoke with him were real people.


BTW, just so it's clear for the future in case people get this mixed up: the christian, jewish and islamic God are all the same God. Allah is not another god, only the Arab word for "god", like "dieu" is "god" french.

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Zelda Projects / Re: Ocarina of Time 2d+

« on: August 09, 2006, 02:41:08 pm »

Two things wrong: First, this is obviously Zelda. Second, as per the rules without a decent trailer or demo this goes into the Early Production board.

Screenshots are pretty good BTW.

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Discussion / Re: Game Title

« on: August 06, 2006, 04:58:07 am »

And I thought z3 was going to be semi-annual.

Well I can guarantee the next one won't be in 2006, but it will be sooner than 12 months.

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Graphics / Re: Question :P

« on: August 04, 2006, 05:33:19 am »

Anywho, just to stray back on-topic, tiles tend to come in multiples of 8. For example in LttP I've seen some that are 8x8, 16x16 (being the most common), 24x24 and 32x32. That's just 1, 2, 3 and 4 times 8 respectively.

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Debates / Re: Burning the flag of the USA in means of protest!

« on: August 04, 2006, 05:24:26 am »

The people who make the flags don't see it as a waste as long as they're getting paid for it and it deals such a minimal effect on the ozone that it's negligeable really. Either way, that has nothing to do with burning flags specifically, but rather the burning of any product.

As for burning flags, as far as I'm concerned it shouldn't be banned at all. A country's flag is the banner which represents it. It is the symbol of the country around which people will unify and recognize their pride. Americans seem to take that whole pride thing a bit far, but nonetheless that's what it is. The flag represents everything in and of the USA and therefore burning one or destroying one in any way is an incredibly strong gesture against that which the symbol stands for. In this case it's a protest against not one particular thing but the entirety of America. Its people, its cities, its customs, everything. I'm sure when someone burns a flag they don't consider the extent of their protest and maybe think they're just protesting the government or whatever, but regardless the burning of the flag is the protest of the whole. If, however, there is someone who protests all that America is and stands for, then by all means they should burn a flag and show it. This way they demonstrate their protest in a much stronger fashion than just saying it. It's like an effigy, only of something larger. On the flip side those who just burn flags and then enjoy the luxuries of America are acting hypocritically. Is hypocrisy wrong? I like to think so. Should they do it in those cases? No. But should the entire act of merely burning a flag be banned? Absolutely not. People should be free to express themselves in the best way they can as long and it causes no harm to anyone else. Burning a flag might get smoke in someone's eyes, but so could any other fire and you're not about to ban camping. If someone so strongly believes that the entirety of American society is wrong, then I say let them protest it in the strongest manner possible. Let them burn flags.

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Debates / Re: Evolution: Fact or Theory?

« on: August 04, 2006, 05:07:18 am »

How did he debunk the big bang? Unless you're refering to his statement saying that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only converted. Here's the thing about that: the big bang did not create anything. The theory of the big bang states that all matter that exists (since matter connot be created or destroyed either) was contained in a very small space. At one point it "exploded" as it were, and released large amounts of energy, projecting the mass outwards. Now it may seem like energy was just created out of nowhere, but before that explosion the energy could have been merely potential.That energy was not created, but merely converted into kinetic energy, thus sending the bits of things out into the universe.

As you can see the big bang theory supports the law in that all matter and enrgy were not created, but released and converted. That amount of energy (eg: all energy) would undoubtedly create a huge explosion of sorts, thus giving it the name "The Big Bang".

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Debates / Re: Tennis Balls

« on: August 02, 2006, 08:59:18 am »

They come in different colours. Most of the time they're a sort of fluerescent yellowy-green. Because they're fluorescent it's hard to properly focus on and determine the actual colour, but to me they seem to be halfway between yellow and green. Then there's those weird orange ones O_o.

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Other Discussion / Re: New computer in 1-2 months, NEED SUGGESTIONS!

« on: August 02, 2006, 05:21:50 am »

What I'd do is go somewhere like Dell (but not necessarily Dell) and get a pre-built one that matches your budget and gives you something close to what you want. Then as time passes you can upgrade it. THat way you start with something decent and as time passes you spend less money at once to make it better. I've been doing that for 2 or 3 (maybe 4) years with my current one. The fun part is having a crappy looking case from the Pentium 2 days housing a 60GB hard drive, a CD and DVD burner (lightscrybe enabled) and a P4. And the added bonus of being able to say "I built that!".

Just don't do it on a carpet .

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Other Discussion / Re: Ingrediance for making a Mewgull [This is awsome!]

« on: August 01, 2006, 08:58:48 pm »

How to make a Alex2539
Ingredients:
5 parts success
5 parts brilliance
3 parts instinct
Method:
Stir together in a glass tumbler with a salted rim. Add lustfulness to taste! Do not overindulge!

Nice .

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Discussion / Re: Who will stay after Oot2D is finished?

« on: August 01, 2006, 08:36:42 pm »

I'm out of here when it's posted! Seriously, why would i stay? After all this entire place is centered around it and there are absolutely no interesting topics or games aside from it.

[/sarcasm]

The cool people are all staying

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Entertainment / Re: Lost, it's as good as pie.

« on: August 01, 2006, 02:55:01 am »

And Does Sawyer come back to the island. It wont be the same without him 

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Despite all the weird stuff that happens in Season 1, pretty much every episode of Season 2 is weirder. It's awesome