Dog move by Microsoft.

Hoffy Hero of Fire	Dog move by Microsoft. « on: July 15, 2008, 06:38:40 am »
Silly cat! Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3313	http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/15/source-avatars-to-be-microsofts-answer-to-miis-and-home/ http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/14/screens-of-new-xbox-experience-avatars-netflix-et-al/ Okay. There's something very familiar about all of this. I feel like I've heard of all of this before. It's like... a cartoon-version of me. Which I can implement into games. I can't recall, but I know I've heard of it before. Oh! And what else! The Xbox interface, or "Xbox Experience" will take on some kind of windowed interface! Oh my, how very original of you Microsoft. I'm sure the hardcore gamers, the market in which you own most of will be delighted to make use of these features. Logged
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Dumb_Ass	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 06:39:49 am »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 2374	There's a difference. With Avatars, you make yourself to represent online. With Miis, you make imaginary friends. Logged

Hoffy Hero of Fire	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 06:41:29 am »
Silly cat! Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3313	Oh well fine, that's that, I guess we can all go home then. Umm, yea, I locked this for some reason >.>... Anyway. You use Miis to represent yourself in Mario Kart Wii. You can't deny Microsoft are afraid of the Wii and they're basically copying it to redeem themselves. « Last Edit: July 15, 2008, 06:52:02 am by Hoffy » Logged
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Quote from: Hoffy on July 15, 2008, 06:41:29 am

Oh well fine, that's that, I guess we can all go home then.

Umm, yea, I locked this for some reason >.>... Anyway. You use Miis to represent yourself in Mario Kart Wii. You can't deny Microsoft are afraid of the Wii and they're basically copying it to redeem themselves.

*DISCLAIMER* This is not directed towards you Hoffy

This is a generalization on the general attitude towards this issue */DISCLAIMER*

Why does everyone think the Wii is valid competition just because it sells more consoles? It's HALF THE PRICE. Of course its selling more consoles >_<;; damnit. That pisses me off, nobody seems to understand that you cant compare a leap-frog leapster with a laptop for fucks sake.

Anyway. No, Microsoft is not afraid of Nintendo. At all. What company hasn't copied a successful concept? Honestly. Nintendo does it all the !@#$% time. Since when are avatars in general a UNIQUE concept? Nintendo made a system where you can make *gasp* 3d ones. Very innovative. Sorry, but IMVU does it too, and that's been around longer than "Mii's", but we don't say Nintendo stole it from them.

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I have nothing against Nintendo, but god damn folks its time for a reality check. Nitpick Nitpick Nitpick. Just enjoy your video games instead of being elitists. >_<

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Hoffy Hero of Fire	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 07:13:10 am »
Silly cat! Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3313	Quote from: Mamoruanime on July 15, 2008, 07:06:05 am Quote from: Hoffy on July 15, 2008, 06:41:29 am Oh well fine, that's that, I guess we can all go home then. Umm, yea, I locked this for some reason >.>... Anyway. You use Miis to represent yourself in Mario Kart Wii. You can't deny Microsoft are afraid of the Wii and they're basically copying it to redeem themselves. DISCLAIMER This is not directed towards you Hoffy This is a generalization on the general attitude towards this issue /DISCLAIMER Why does everyone think the Wii is valid competition just because it sells more consoles? It's HALF THE PRICE. Of course its selling more consoles >_<;; damnit. That pisses me off, nobody seems to understand that you cant compare a leap-frog leapster with a laptop for fucks sake. Anyway. No, Microsoft is not afraid of Nintendo. At all. What company hasn't copied a successful concept? Honestly. Nintendo does it all the !@#$% time. Since when are avatars in general a UNIQUE concept? Nintendo made a system where you can make gasp 3d ones. Very innovative. Sorry, but IMVU does it too, and that's been around longer than "Mii's", but we don't say Nintendo stole it from them. askdhasldkhasldkahsd random rant I have nothing against Nintendo, but god damn folks its time for a reality check. Nitpick Nitpick Nitpick. Just enjoy your video games instead of being elitists. >_< I was going to argue with you, but I read the last bit on nitpicking, something I usually preach. You're right, it shouldn't be a problem, and it isn't, really. At any rate, Microsoft did have a good show with Gears 2 and Fallout 3. Logged
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AoDC	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 07:16:23 am »
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Domo	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #6 on: July 15, 2008, 07:18:54 am »
Reputation: +1/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1569	Honestly I have to agree with Mamoru on this. Original thought almost completely died out a long time ago. Yes, obviously Microsoft is putting these in to place because of Mii's and Home. It makes good business sense, who cares if it's not original. It's either keep up or die out. Does is really matter who came up with what as long as we, the gamers, (no matter what console preference, if any), benefit? No, it doesn't. Yes, it's an obvious rip-off, and yes, there is no way in hell that either Sony or Microsoft will credit Nintendo with the idea to incorporate avatars into the current generation -- who cares? (Also, I want to stress that I'm not trying to be an ass. I understand where you're coming from, I just get very tired of seeing these sort of arguments being used as munition within the "console wars".) Logged
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TheDarkJay	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #7 on: July 15, 2008, 11:22:34 am »
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.TakaM	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #8 on: July 15, 2008, 11:55:26 am »
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Cuddle♥Bunny	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #9 on: July 15, 2008, 11:57:33 am »
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Kylink	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #10 on: July 15, 2008, 12:27:00 pm »
Don't Worry Sir, I'm From The Internet. Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 2339	I don't think avatars fit the XBOX360 style, I don't know anyone that has one that would like that. But oh well, it doesn't really matter. I also hate elitists who get mad when something on one console gets copied for another. No, I guess the playstation isn't allowed a controller stick, rumble...or even a D-Pad! Video games aren't these exclusive clubs, they just happen to be games on different consoles. Yeah, but Nintendo should update the Mii's. It's so limiting, and pretty boring now. Logged
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imfletcher	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #11 on: July 15, 2008, 03:11:08 pm »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1285	The Microsoft avatars are clearly inspired by the Wii Miis...but these are actually better. As a Nintendo fan, I'm already a bit jealous of all the cool things Microsoft is doing with their creations, not to mention the fact that even the Mii-thing builder seems better. Oh well. Logged
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InvaderLupus	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #12 on: July 15, 2008, 06:36:39 pm »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1393	I agree with everything that has been said on the subject. And the windowed interface you mentioned is more reminiscent of the Windows Vista interface than the Wii interface, which makes sense seeing as Microsoft has been trying to create a home network between its hardware. Logged
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Porkchop	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #13 on: July 15, 2008, 06:42:50 pm »
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Ryan The only Canadian?	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #14 on: July 15, 2008, 06:43:20 pm »
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Walnut	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #15 on: July 15, 2008, 08:06:59 pm »
Wooper Don't Give a !@#$% Reputation: +16/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1457	Quote from: Ryan on July 15, 2008, 06:43:20 pm You know that seems like it can actually be cool. I say a nice move by the Microfags. IANintendo Defense Force Logged
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kirkking2000	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #16 on: July 16, 2008, 05:44:13 am »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 223	Quote from: Mamoruanime on July 15, 2008, 07:06:05 am I have nothing against Nintendo, but god damn folks its time for a reality check. Nitpick Nitpick Nitpick. Just enjoy your video games instead of being elitists. >_< well pput!!!, we the consumers are not the people who should be arguing about the different features anyways, lol, shouldnt it be the gaming companys suing each other, lol, i kid but still. i think the avatars are a good idea, im just surprised, because besides viva pinata, thats the most childlike thing iv seen on the 360. and the interface, sure it will definantly take some getting used to seeing a combination of everyone elses interfaces, but o well, deal with it! like i sahll! Logged
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Mirby Drifter	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #17 on: July 17, 2008, 09:57:41 pm »
To bomb or not to bomb... Reputation: +6/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 4162	On a video over at Gamespot, they said avatars are everywhere and they thought it was a good idea. Logged
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Dumb_Ass	Re: Dog move by Microsoft. « Reply #18 on: July 17, 2008, 10:10:11 pm »
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Why does everyone think the Wii is valid competition just because it sells more consoles?

I can't believe I have to actually make this arguement...

Your arguement about price point is pretty weak since the 360 can be had for a mere $30 more than the Wii. I suppose you will then bring up target audience, and I'm not saying that arguement doesn't have some validity to it, but the idea of the Wii's target market has always been (go back to the earliest press conferences) the casual (non) gamer and the traditional (hardcore) gamer together. Given the 360's target of the traditional gamer I am pretty sure those markets overlap at least a little bit. Now, I'm not expert but when two devices of similar price are both targeting the same consumers don't we like to call it... (think about it...) COMPETITION! That's right folks, as it turns out the Wii is competing with (and outperforming) the Xbox 360.

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