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Title: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Moon_child on June 03, 2007, 12:09:44 pm
(http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/ds/the_legend_of_zelda_phantom_hourglass/scr_064.jpg)
(http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/ds/the_legend_of_zelda_phantom_hourglass/scr_065.jpg)
(http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/ds/the_legend_of_zelda_phantom_hourglass/scr_066.jpg)
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Yeah I know some are old but I couldn't bother to sort them out.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: alspal on June 03, 2007, 01:00:54 pm
This game is looking really hot.
I believe it will be great!
Especially since they say the soundtrack in this will be the best in the series.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Downsider on June 03, 2007, 01:04:51 pm
I love the new game, specially cause its portable, but i dont like the view in the dungeons.  WHY couldn't they give us the OoT view style?  Would be nice, and the DS is capable if they are careful with level design.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Nebetsu on June 03, 2007, 02:15:56 pm
Honestly: It looks like ass. It's grainy and they shouldn't have done another WW style game. The DS kinda blows for 3D games and no one seems to see it.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: TheRealDragonboy on June 03, 2007, 03:06:34 pm
JPG messed up the screenshots, But other than that it looks very cool.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: a Hint of Lime on June 03, 2007, 03:36:14 pm
Honestly: It looks like ass. It's grainy and they shouldn't have done another WW style game. The DS kinda blows for 3D games and no one seems to see it.


quoted for truth

I've said it a thousand times, but DS should stick to 2d.  If you want portable 3d, get a psp, which can actually handle 3d graphics well.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: ZServ on June 03, 2007, 04:18:07 pm
im totally downloading the japanese rom to mai r4 first chance i get. (so when it comes out)
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: CoNfUsEd_GaMeR on June 03, 2007, 04:20:24 pm
I agree with Limey and Nebetsu, this sucks. simple 3D games, in this kind of setting (ie adventure game), lack the detail required to create the atmosphere which is oh-so-important in a game. I can't see this being any good, but then not so many of the recent Zelda games have been anyway....
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Uppy on June 03, 2007, 04:28:26 pm
Yes, yes we know you guys don't like it, do you really have to re-affirm yourselves on this same bloody point every. Single. Time? Honestly. If you don't like it don't buy it.

Also, TWW style is awesome. anyone who disagrees is a dirty tramp.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: CoNfUsEd_GaMeR on June 03, 2007, 04:35:44 pm
who said we're gonna buy it? lol

your next question could well be "then why are you posting here", to which the answer would be "to show opinions that need to be shown, if they were not shown then people might assume that everyone likes this move"
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Kylink on June 03, 2007, 05:20:47 pm
You guys are kidding right...what isn't epic about those screenshots. Those graphics are the best I've seen on the DS yet, and FFIII was really good looking.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Uppy on June 03, 2007, 08:43:03 pm
I agree.
@Confused_gamer: That wasn't my next question, my next question would have been "why do you feel the need to share the same opinion every time someone starts a new PH topic? we all know you dont like it, those who do just don't care. lol :P
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: TheRealDragonboy on June 03, 2007, 08:54:59 pm
You guys are kidding right...what isn't epic about those screenshots. Those graphics are the best I've seen on the DS yet, and FFIII was really good looking.
Yeah, it looks only bad because the noise/JPG artifacts. Final fantasy was okay for a DS, PH is looks even better.

(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2170/scr066uj8.png)
I've tried to use the "JPG artifact removal tool" of paint shop pro (doesn't really makes it better but the noise and articact are almost gone)
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Bboy on June 03, 2007, 09:14:08 pm
Honestly: It looks like ass. It's grainy and they shouldn't have done another WW style game. The DS kinda blows for 3D games and no one seems to see it.
FF3 actualyl had some pretty good graphics.
Whatever. Graphics don't really matter.
>_> Don't even say "Its the first thing the peoples see." Well you pretty much know that if its a Zelda game its at the very least going to be good, no matter what the masses think because of the graphics. Graphics may matter in how well it sells, because of ignorance, (Seriously, have people ever heard of don't judge a book by its cover?) but you should know better.

Well, can't say I'm really impressed, except maybe the 5th and 6th ones, because other than those its old info. But, its Zelda, so I can guarantee myself I'm gonna like it.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: araknidude on June 04, 2007, 12:57:47 am
"Where are you waiting for? come on!"

Quite.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: sjegtp on June 04, 2007, 01:09:11 am
The game looks very well; the only thing I didn't like was link's model.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: alspal on June 04, 2007, 07:00:30 am
I agree with Limey and Nebetsu, this sucks. simple 3D games, in this kind of setting (ie adventure game), lack the detail required to create the atmosphere which is oh-so-important in a game. I can't see this being any good, but then not so many of the recent Zelda games have been anyway....
what about Ocarina of Time? That was a "simple" 3d game, the DS could easily handle that. Meaning that PH could be good. :)
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Hoffy on June 04, 2007, 07:26:54 am
Honestly: It looks like ass. It's grainy and they shouldn't have done another WW style game. The DS kinda blows for 3D games and no one seems to see it.


quoted for truth

I've said it a thousand times, but DS should stick to 2d.  If you want portable 3d, get a psp, which can actually handle 3d graphics well.
Sure the graphics look !@#$%, but it's the art style that goes down well with me. I'm friggin' sick of graphics talk. I'm fairly sure people can see that it doesn't look as good as a PSP game, but your eyes don't bleed when you look at it in motion. It moves smoothly and doesn't affect the gameplay.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: CoNfUsEd_GaMeR on June 04, 2007, 09:48:06 am
to alspal, no, they're not similar at all. Look at the difference in the amount of environmental detail (note NOT graphical detail...) in the dungeon shots:

(http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/ds/the_legend_of_zelda_phantom_hourglass/scr_066.jpg)
(http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/ds/the_legend_of_zelda_phantom_hourglass/scr_071.jpg)

(http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/n64/zelda5/images/walkthroughpics/walk09/15.jpg)
(http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/n64/zelda5/images/walkthroughpics/walk01/13.jpg)
The N64 can handle large amounts of 3d objects and lighting compared to this.


and Hoffy, if Limey thinks like me, this isn't about the graphics at all. The graphics look great, I love the style. But the amount of environmental detail is appalling, just look at those dungeon shots, it just looks like a few corridors put together with a block in the middle of one. Where's the atmosphere gone???

See the difference we get with 2D games?
(http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/snes/zelda3/images/walkthroughpics/walk14/09.gif)
(http://gbamedia.gamespy.com/gba/image/article/578/578514/the-legend-of-zelda-the-minish-cap-20050110100026535.jpg)

Again, the GameCube can handle good amounts of 3d objects and lightning, so when using the WW style:
(http://www.nintendodomain.net/newsimages/screenshots/lozww_2.jpg)
(http://media.liquidx.net/ul/img/2006_05_08__mediaFiles_m-zelda115_gcn_ss13-jpg.jpg)
...it has atmosphere

I can further my point with more one example of good 2D games and not-so-good 3d games of the same series:
(http://medien.akbild.ac.at/armin/crates_and_barrels/crate_donkey_kong_country.jpg) = CREAM
(http://www.juegomania.org/Donkey+Kong+64/fotos/n64/0/104_t/Foto+Donkey+Kong+64.jpg) =  ABSOLUTE !@#$% !@#$%
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: alspal on June 04, 2007, 11:09:50 am
and Hoffy, if Limey thinks like me, this isn't about the graphics at all. The graphics look great, I love the style. But the amount of environmental detail is appalling, just look at those dungeon shots, it just looks like a few corridors put together with a block in the middle of one. Where's the atmosphere gone???
yeah you're definitely right in that sense!
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Moon_child on June 04, 2007, 11:38:05 am
Honestly: It looks like ass. It's grainy and they shouldn't have done another WW style game. The DS kinda blows for 3D games and no one seems to see it.
That's defenitly an opinion and not a fact.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Ryan on June 04, 2007, 11:54:23 am
I am getting this game when it comes out! It looks like a Gamecube game. Awesome!
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: TheDarkJay on June 04, 2007, 05:28:33 pm
http://www.juegomania.org/Donkey+Kong+64/fotos/n64/0/104_t/Foto+Donkey+Kong+64.jpg =  ABSOLUTE !@#$% !@#$%

That game rocked...

Anyway, I'll play it, and probably like it. But, my love for many series is fading. I wanna play original series now, not Zelda 12, Pokemon 13. The same basic concept over and over again without even trying to invent new main charecters, starts to get boring...

Oh look, a new main female char...oh, turns out she's actually Zelda...
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: EDGE on June 04, 2007, 05:54:41 pm
That's defenitly an opinion and not a fact.
Facts are based on opinions.
Anyway, this doesn't look bad either good.
I won't get any new zelda game until they do something "really" new.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Dascu on June 04, 2007, 06:38:42 pm
I am getting this game when it comes out! It looks like a Gamecube game. Awesome!
This is saying more about the underpowered games on GCN than the beauty of this game.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: alspal on June 05, 2007, 08:33:05 am

Anyway, I'll play it, and probably like it. But, my love for many series is fading. I wanna play original series now, not Zelda 12, Pokemon 13. The same basic concept over and over again without even trying to invent new main charecters, starts to get boring...
you do realise there are thousands of other games out there that aren't Zelda or Pokemon related?
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: AcidGame on June 05, 2007, 09:05:26 am
Have you guys looked at ANY other screen shots, or are you just judging your opinions on the following two:

(http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/ds/the_legend_of_zelda_phantom_hourglass/scr_066.jpg)
(http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/ds/the_legend_of_zelda_phantom_hourglass/scr_071.jpg)

Perhaps it is best to keep your opinions to yourself until after you have played the game. Maybe this area of the game is supposed to look like it does? Look at the rest of the screen shots, and you will see "atmosphere".

Atmosphere!
(http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/ds/the_legend_of_zelda_phantom_hourglass/scr_065.jpg)

Atmosphere!
(http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/ds/the_legend_of_zelda_phantom_hourglass/scr_068.jpg)

Atmosphere!
(http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/ds/the_legend_of_zelda_phantom_hourglass/scr_072.jpg)

Atmosphere!
(http://www.ngcfrance.com/images/news/ds/the_legend_of_zelda_phantom_hourglass/scr_086.jpg)

And what the hell are you talking about atmosphere in video games in a Zelda Fan Game forum anyways?
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Devy on June 05, 2007, 11:44:33 am
looking good but if eople finish off the ds emulator ill rip the sprites from one view!

This IS why i'm getting the DS
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Uppy on June 05, 2007, 12:43:09 pm
That's defenitly an opinion and not a fact.
Facts are based on opinions.
Anyway, this doesn't look bad either good.
I won't get any new zelda game until they do something "really" new.

Facts are not based on opinion. Facts are a truth, that is why they are called FACTS.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: TheDarkJay on June 05, 2007, 04:19:00 pm

Anyway, I'll play it, and probably like it. But, my love for many series is fading. I wanna play original series now, not Zelda 12, Pokemon 13. The same basic concept over and over again without even trying to invent new main charecters, starts to get boring...
you do realise there are thousands of other games out there that aren't Zelda or Pokemon related?

I've stopped reading games magazines, so very few games reach my ears nowadays.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots! (NEW new screens)
Post by: King Mob on June 07, 2007, 06:41:42 pm
Some new media - not hotlinked for the spoiler-sensitive, but also because the images are feckin' huge:
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/12034_zelda_ds1_122_704lo.jpg (http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/12034_zelda_ds1_122_704lo.jpg)
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/12040_zelda_ds2_122_1168lo.jpg (http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/12040_zelda_ds2_122_1168lo.jpg)

There are a lot of returning characters from WW, a new race (that I've already decided to pilfer for my game :P) plus the welcome re-emergence of an old one.

Not sure what the bottom-left info box is telling us - can we customise the ship?

Plus two Japanese TV ads:
http://www.jeux-france.com/downloads7821_video-zelda-ds.html (http://www.jeux-france.com/downloads7821_video-zelda-ds.html)
http://www.jeux-france.com/downloads7822_video-zelda-ds.html (http://www.jeux-france.com/downloads7822_video-zelda-ds.html)
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: NickAVV on June 07, 2007, 06:48:59 pm
Gorons! Penguin-Eskimo-Mooses! And other cool stuff!
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Eater on June 07, 2007, 09:34:37 pm
In the bottom right corner of the first pic, there is what looks like a Darknut, and on it's shield is what looks like an hourglass with an upside-down Triforce piece in it...

And in the second one, I think I can see Salvatore(the guy who ran the cannon mini-games from TWW), Beedle, Old Man Ho-ho(not sure if I have that right, but he's the guy who's always looking through a telescope, or on one island, a koliada(?)-scope), and the Postman.  Also, is it just me or does that one Goron look a bit like Darmani from MM?

It also looks like there'll be fishing.

Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: NickAVV on June 07, 2007, 09:43:21 pm
That "upside-down triforce piece" is just sand in the hourglass. If you look, you can see it "right-side up" on the bottom of the hourglass too.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: alspal on June 08, 2007, 06:28:30 am
I hope it will be an epic game.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots! (NEW new screens)
Post by: Moon_child on June 08, 2007, 10:24:25 am
Some new media - not hotlinked for the spoiler-sensitive, but also because the images are feckin' huge:
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/12034_zelda_ds1_122_704lo.jpg (http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/12034_zelda_ds1_122_704lo.jpg)
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/12040_zelda_ds2_122_1168lo.jpg (http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/12040_zelda_ds2_122_1168lo.jpg)

There are a lot of returning characters from WW, a new race (that I've already decided to pilfer for my game :P) plus the welcome re-emergence of an old one.

Not sure what the bottom-left info box is telling us - can we customise the ship?

Plus two Japanese TV ads:
http://www.jeux-france.com/downloads7821_video-zelda-ds.html (http://www.jeux-france.com/downloads7821_video-zelda-ds.html)
http://www.jeux-france.com/downloads7822_video-zelda-ds.html (http://www.jeux-france.com/downloads7822_video-zelda-ds.html)
OMG!!! the gorons are back! :D I love them for no reason.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Bboy on June 08, 2007, 04:26:15 pm
Yey, Gorons! And finally we get an ice people too.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: NickAVV on June 08, 2007, 04:30:10 pm
Yey, Gorons! And finally we get an ice people too.

Yetis. Nuff said. (Note: Yetis and These li'l guys are rivaled on the scale of pwnsomness.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Mitsu on June 08, 2007, 04:45:44 pm
That's defenitly an opinion and not a fact.
Facts are based on opinions.
Anyway, this doesn't look bad either good.
I won't get any new zelda game until they do something "really" new.
facts are based on REALITY!!

i think the games looks good, probably plays good, i'm just don't want to play another zelda game that doesn't live up to my expectations.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Fanu on June 08, 2007, 07:07:01 pm
Doesn't look bad, I'll probably pick it up. 
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Reckdrummer on August 07, 2007, 12:59:52 am
hey! all zelda games rule! whoever said that the recent zelda game werent good are stupid!! and what can u expect from the DS? i mean nintendo dosent want to go back to gameboy 2d graphics so the next best thing is ds 3d. me personally all zelda games are good so y should this 1 look any different?
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Dantztron 3030 on August 07, 2007, 01:07:20 am
hey! all zelda games rule! whoever said that the recent zelda game werent good are stupid!! and what can u expect from the DS? i mean nintendo dosent want to go back to gameboy 2d graphics so the next best thing is ds 3d. me personally all zelda games are good so y should this 1 look any different?

Wow, get out.
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Reckdrummer on August 07, 2007, 02:43:16 am
-_- im just stating my opinion.

and your signature is very great (not)
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Moon_child on August 07, 2007, 02:44:52 am
-_- im just stating my opinion.

and your signature is very great (not)
Atleast he has a signature!
Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: Dantztron 3030 on August 07, 2007, 03:08:27 am
-_- im just stating my opinion.

and your signature is very great (not)

lolwut? You're stating your opinion with terrible grammar, poor syntax, and no intelligible sign of said "opinion." You see, usually opinion is formed by rationale, research, and self-examination and then stated publicly in a clear, reasonable way.

tl;dr, no one cares.

Title: Re: Allot new Phantom Hourglass screenshots!
Post by: 4Sword on August 07, 2007, 03:32:21 am
Knock it off, he's allowed to have an opinion.  It wasn't even that bad in terms of grammar, it could have been better, but it is not too bad to call out like that.  However, Rechdrummer, don't call things stupid or state facts as opinions.  Carry on!

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