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Title: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: sjegtp on July 29, 2007, 02:37:39 pm
No, we can't have Mr. Tommy Wrongudan (or whatever its name is). This is ridiculous. How can we vote in a thing like that? And if it is a tie against Ninja Zombie and it becomes Ninja Zombie Tommy Wrongudan? We should have a more efficient way of dealing with ties.

I have a suggestion. Instead of having the characters remain in the competition by mixing them, we could make a triple poll (that one would have been "Mr Wrong vs. Tommy-Gun T vs. Bakudan"). But now that there's been another tie, it would be "Mr Wrong vs. Tommy T-Gun vs. Bakudan vs. Ninja-Zombie #1459320340". I think it's better than having Mr. Tommy Wrongudan vs. Ninja-Zombie #1459320340.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: NeoGeo-x on July 29, 2007, 02:40:39 pm
I will talk about this to Hoffy, but I'm quite sure about one thing; we will not retroactively expel "Tommy Bakudan" from the competition.

I'm afraid that's all I can share with you for the moment.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Dayjo on July 29, 2007, 04:57:01 pm
I'm totally changing my predictions.. Mr. Tommy Wrongudan is going to win the whole thing.. haha it's amazing.

You can't get rid of it.. it's hillarious.. and totally fair for all contestants, this is a GOOD way of doing ties.. rather than the boring triple poll idea. This is creative and in the spirit of the Character Comp.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Moldrill on July 29, 2007, 06:14:56 pm
Go go Mr. Tombakudan!
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Domo on July 29, 2007, 07:00:37 pm
I'll tell you what's going to happen...Ninja-Z will take him down with his unique zombie-brand of martial law.  There will be an epic battle, but Ninja-Z will give it his all.  Not because he cares about protecting innocent characters from this katamari-esque monstrosity...no, he just wants brains...arrgh, BRAINS!!  And three brains is better than one, MIRITE?

Oh yes, there will be blood.  Lawlz.

EDIT:   Oh yeah, I think they should remain together.  From what Hoffy said in the original topic Mr. Wrong would have lost by one vote if he hadn't removed his vote at the last minute.  This way Mr. Wrong can continue on even though he would have otherwise been left behind.

That's my understanding of things anyway.  As long as the character creators have no problem with this, I see no reason for anyone else to have any problems with it either.  What's done is done.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Dayjo on July 29, 2007, 07:12:56 pm
Yeah Ninja has no problem with it... so it's all good >=D
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Dumb_Ass on July 29, 2007, 07:18:54 pm
Mr. Tommy Wrongudan... wow. Imagine if there is one more time.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Dayjo on July 29, 2007, 07:22:55 pm
Mr. Tommy Wrongudan... wow. Imagine if there is one more time.
Ninja Tommy 'Zombie' Wrongudan
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: NickAVV on July 29, 2007, 08:12:11 pm
Mr. Tombakuwrong is a better name. I think Dascu came up with it..?
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: cb43569 on July 29, 2007, 09:42:38 pm
I love Mr. Tommy Wrongkudan. I told my mother and sister, who are not regular ZFGCers, and they laughed! They laughed! With us, not at us, by the way <__<;
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Easy_D on July 29, 2007, 09:53:49 pm
Oh god.

If I hadn't suggested that this happen in the voting thread..OH GOD. MY VOTE MADE IT HAPPEN D:.



Sorry guys, I'm all responsible for this
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Kren on July 29, 2007, 09:54:01 pm
I think they should keep the fusion =), that way the final will be more interesting heh, apart from that IMO Bakudan seems like a parasite, so that explain some stuff.
EDIT: I think that the owners need to decide between doing a triple poll or just joining them.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Moldrill on July 29, 2007, 11:10:58 pm
Now that the style is a jarbled mess they should make Mr. Tombakuwrong a brand new drawing that combines the three of them without the original art styles.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Alchemist on July 30, 2007, 12:21:52 am
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2874/mrwrongudantommyforhoffn4.jpg)

<3


--> I'd make a new artwork, but unfortunately I have no time. Exams begin tomorrow for me.

But I'd like to go with Mr. Tommy Wrongkudan just to see how it turns out, but that depends on what the respective owners of the other 2 fused characters say about it.

With huge pointing hands, a Tommy-Gun, an unidentified specie with a top hat coupled with the undebatable Mr. Wrong, I don't think Domo's zombie ninja has a chance  ;)
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Moldrill on July 30, 2007, 12:23:43 am
Yeah this character is going to the finals.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Vandavil on July 30, 2007, 07:29:37 am
No! It will be a snowball, collecting up characters as it goes! :D
Ninja Tommissure Wrongudan!
,;Sk;,
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Hoffy on July 30, 2007, 07:33:20 am
No offense, I don't really understand why you would like to expel Mr. Tommy Wrongkudan in favour of your "triple poll". This character is creative, bizarre, and was pretty much created as the result of an accident. What more could you want?
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Dayjo on July 30, 2007, 08:45:35 am
No offense, I don't really understand why you would like to expel Mr. Tommy Wrongkudan in favour of your "triple poll". This character is creative, bizarre, and was pretty much created as the result of an accident. What more could you want?
bewbs
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: a Hint of Lime on July 30, 2007, 07:52:39 pm
No offense, I don't really understand why you would like to expel Mr. Tommy Wrongkudan in favour of your "triple poll". This character is creative, bizarre, and was pretty much created as the result of an accident. What more could you want?
bewbs
Please don't spam Dayjo :P
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Pyru on July 30, 2007, 08:09:29 pm
*hums the Katamari Damacy theme*

What if the final draws? :D
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: sjegtp on July 30, 2007, 08:33:38 pm
No offense, I don't really understand why you would like to expel Mr. Tommy Wrongkudan in favour of your "triple poll". This character is creative, bizarre, and was pretty much created as the result of an accident. What more could you want?
I just think we can't mix the characters. First of all, they're completely different... I mean, one is a parasite, the other is an avenger who lost his memories and the other is a man who is always saying STFU to people; they have nothing in common.

Second, I think a triple poll is more fair than mixing the characters: Mr. Wrong was in a match alone against a team of 2 characters, which would be harder to beat than if Mr. Wrong had a triple poll against them separate. If that had happened, the votes of Tommy Bakudan would be divided between Bakudan and Tommy-Gun T, and Mr. Wrong would have won with 50% of the votes. Maybe that wouldn't have happened exactly as I described, but somehow similar (OBS: I'm not defending Mr. Wrong, I didn't even vote in him, I'm just pointing the logic.)

And third, IMHO, having your own character winning a competition is different from having a mix of 3 or 4 characters winning. Also, as your character is mixed, that would lose much of the "essence" of the character. Imagine if, suppose, FISSURE (which is a comic and satirical character) was mixed with Hane (which isn't comic, it's a more dramatic character). You had put lot's of effort into writing a dramatic and emotional story, and in the end it is mixed with a funny satirical story. I personally wouldn't like that to happen with my character, but it seems the competitors agreed with mixing the characters, so it's okay.



That's only my opinion. I expected that at least one or two person would agree with me when I posted this topic, but it seems that the majority of the voters and character-makers prefer mixing the characters. Okay, so just continue mixing the characters then.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Kren on July 30, 2007, 09:03:32 pm
Why do you take this so  serious? really it just a character competition just for fun :P.. well, Q.K. Is in a trip, he will be back in a week or less :/, I really think he doesn't mind joining the characters.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: NeoGeo-x on July 30, 2007, 09:07:34 pm
Well, beyond the division matches, if it turned out a particular match would turn out to be a tie we will let the poll just run a little longer :p

As for Mr. Tommy Wrongkudan; I'll state it again: what has been done has been done. We're not reverting anything.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Domo on July 31, 2007, 02:35:24 am
Also, as your character is mixed, that would lose much of the "essence" of the character. Imagine if, suppose, FISSURE (which is a comic and satirical character) was mixed with Hane (which isn't comic, it's a more dramatic character). You had put lot's of effort into writing a dramatic and emotional story, and in the end it is mixed with a funny satirical story.
That is a VERY valid point.  Luckily the creators all seem to agree on this merger, but I must ask...If there is a tie in the future and the creators DON'T agree with a character merge, what then?  I have no problem with the characters having been merged and what's done is done, this is just a hypothetical question.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Alchemist on July 31, 2007, 03:02:35 am
No offense, I don't really understand why you would like to expel Mr. Tommy Wrongkudan in favour of your "triple poll". This character is creative, bizarre, and was pretty much created as the result of an accident. What more could you want?
I just think we can't mix the characters. First of all, they're completely different... I mean, one is a parasite, the other is an avenger who lost his memories and the other is a man who is always saying STFU to people; they have nothing in common.

Second, I think a triple poll is more fair than mixing the characters: Mr. Wrong was in a match alone against a team of 2 characters, which would be harder to beat than if Mr. Wrong had a triple poll against them separate. If that had happened, the votes of Tommy Bakudan would be divided between Bakudan and Tommy-Gun T, and Mr. Wrong would have won with 50% of the votes. Maybe that wouldn't have happened exactly as I described, but somehow similar (OBS: I'm not defending Mr. Wrong, I didn't even vote in him, I'm just pointing the logic.)

And third, IMHO, having your own character winning a competition is different from having a mix of 3 or 4 characters winning. Also, as your character is mixed, that would lose much of the "essence" of the character. Imagine if, suppose, FISSURE (which is a comic and satirical character) was mixed with Hane (which isn't comic, it's a more dramatic character). You had put lot's of effort into writing a dramatic and emotional story, and in the end it is mixed with a funny satirical story. I personally wouldn't like that to happen with my character, but it seems the competitors agreed with mixing the characters, so it's okay.



That's only my opinion. I expected that at least one or two person would agree with me when I posted this topic, but it seems that the majority of the voters and character-makers prefer mixing the characters. Okay, so just continue mixing the characters then.

Really well said.

I know we can't revert the characters but I just wanna say;

Although I didn't mind a character merge, for the next competition I'd really like a solution to solve the draw problems.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Hoffy on July 31, 2007, 06:17:40 am
And third, IMHO, having your own character winning a competition is different from having a mix of 3 or 4 characters winning. Also, as your character is mixed, that would lose much of the "essence" of the character. Imagine if, suppose, FISSURE (which is a comic and satirical character) was mixed with Hane (which isn't comic, it's a more dramatic character). You had put lot's of effort into writing a dramatic and emotional story, and in the end it is mixed with a funny satirical story. I personally wouldn't like that to happen with my character, but it seems the competitors agreed with mixing the characters, so it's okay.
I suppose when you put it THAT way... It makes a lot of sense. Thing is, it didn't really cause much of an issue with these three characters because they were all comical, humorous characters and a character merge didn't seem like it would take away too much of the essence of all three characters.

If it just so happened that someone like The Acolyte and Tommy-Gun T merged, then a character merge would not have come to mind at all.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Corniune on July 31, 2007, 07:42:43 am
Either way, if the competitors disagrees with the fusion, no mix will occur. Simple as that. :)
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Hammer Bro. Mike on August 01, 2007, 01:43:19 am
I wonder what would have happened if Bobular progressed and tied with another character. All I can imagine is that you'd have to change the head and add hands and feet.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Kame on August 01, 2007, 02:00:25 am
How about next time if there is a draw the two winners are given a space of time in which other brackets are voted on and they cocreate a character if possible? Next year, though.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: cb43569 on August 02, 2007, 04:39:48 pm
How about next time if there is a draw the two winners are given a spae of tiem in whihc other brackets are voted on and they cocreate a character if possible? Next year, though.

Um... but if that's the time where the rest is voted on, when will the co-creation be voted on? And where in the brackets?
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Kame on August 02, 2007, 09:10:54 pm
There'll be a set time for the tied authors to come up with a co-created character together. During that time, other votes will be held, i.e. between different characters or brackets and if those votes do not fill up the space of time no votes will be held until the time for a co-creation expires. If the time expires and no co-creation is made or if the authors wish not to make one at all, a merge will be done as was this year.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: sjegtp on August 02, 2007, 09:22:48 pm
There'll be a set time for the tied authors to come up with a co-created character together. During that time, other votes will be held, i.e. between different characters or brackets and if those votes do not fill up the space of time no votes will be held until the time for a co-creation expires. If the time expires and no co-creation is made or if the authors wish not to make one at all, a merge will be done as was this year.
That's a good idea. I think this could be better than a merge sometimes.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Kame on August 02, 2007, 09:27:04 pm
Or one of the authors of a tie could always drop out. Not that that's likely, but it should be allowed.
Title: Re: What's going to happen to Tommy Bakudan + Mr. Wrong?
Post by: Q.K. on August 03, 2007, 04:10:55 am
Hahahaha, just got back from my trip. I laughed so hard at this. XD I'm all for keeping Mr. Tommy Wrongkudan. XD

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