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Title: Link to the Past-GB-I bow out humbly.....
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 14, 2007, 10:24:03 am
Yep that's right!Link to the Past-Game Boy Edition...

This is going to be a remake in the style of Link's Awakening using the story and elements from Link to the Past.  This way
the game feels more like a port rather than a remake with worse graphics.  Story will stay the same.  Items will stay the same.
Graphics will be as close as possible to Link's Awakening.  Music is being edited/created to sound like sound from a Game Boy.
Several people are already involved in this.  If you wish to get involved, post here http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?topic=13621.0.

Here are some screenies...the first is the actual title screen in game...Credit to Hyrule_Swordsman....the second is a concept of Link's House outside.
(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5664/dotdotfu8uo4.png)
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8645/hyrulecastleconceptkw2.png)
                            (http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4508/shouseconceptrc6.png)

Hope you will will enjoy this as much as I enjoy making this project.

If you wish to support, simply paste the title screen into your sig or use this(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j57/Laigonaz/LTTP-GB.png)

2/14/07
Finished concepts of Link's house and Hyrule Castle...

Compare please...
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/deepseadev/LegendOfZelda-ALinkToThePast-LightW.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/deepseadev/TotalConceptLTTPGB.jpg
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Kevin-1990 on February 14, 2007, 10:56:45 am
wow looks pretty cool :).
cant wait to see more pictures.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: King Tetiro on February 14, 2007, 12:03:21 pm
This is awesome! You better not quit this or I will have to kill 500000000000000000000 COWS!!!
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 14, 2007, 12:09:10 pm
This is awesome! You better not quit this or I will have to kill 500000000000000000000 COWS!!!
Only 500000000000000000000 cows?

Thanks for the support!I'll keep working on this until I am completely hampered by some force of nature....



Do I smell pizza?!
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: King Tetiro on February 14, 2007, 12:22:04 pm
Word of advice. DO IT IN COLOUR PLEASE!!!!
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 14, 2007, 12:24:00 pm
Well I am definitely making in the greyscale first...
Depending on success...may make a DX version like LADX
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: King Tetiro on February 14, 2007, 12:27:50 pm
Oh ok  :'( I want A LTTP-GB Demo now!
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 14, 2007, 12:38:50 pm
working on it...
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Sophist on February 14, 2007, 01:32:01 pm
hm this is pretty cool and actually easy to make
i could help you make it in my engine if you want
i could even add back windowed mode but then you cant have any brightness effects

just a suggestion... caught my interest thats all
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 14, 2007, 01:36:29 pm
Depends on what program you use....
I use MMF2..not GM.I have no experience with GM,although I dont know why I registered it.....o.0...
I can use any Click made product from TGF and up..so....if you got something using a Click product,I would greatly appreciate it...
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: King Tetiro on February 14, 2007, 01:47:39 pm
TFS, check your PMs.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Sophist on February 14, 2007, 02:14:03 pm
no click and play :P  its an engine i made myself
the engine comes with an easy graphical editor where you can fully design maps
just remember since this is GB all maps have to be 16x16 and thus fit together like that
ill be making all the scripts and quests though
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: King Tetiro on February 14, 2007, 02:15:04 pm
Hey TFS, check you PM for the thing I mADE FOR YOU!
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Hammer Bro. Mike on February 14, 2007, 07:14:04 pm
I'm not a big fan of A Link to the Past but this project is looking good. Keep it up! ;)
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Kleaver on February 14, 2007, 11:55:50 pm
Myeah looks nice...but all I see is a retile of one area of the game.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 15, 2007, 01:24:56 am
no click and play :P  its an engine i made myself
the engine comes with an easy graphical editor where you can fully design maps
just remember since this is GB all maps have to be 16x16 and thus fit together like that
ill be making all the scripts and quests though

Dont worry...All my tiles are in 16x16....
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Scooternew on February 15, 2007, 02:08:05 am
No. Don't remake a Zelda game in a different type of Zelda graphics. That takes no creativity. It's enough to make a fan game - you have all the characters, story, graphics, soudns, etc. You're essentially taking a game and changing the graphics - not to custom, but to a style already established. Sorry, I frown down upon this.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 15, 2007, 02:16:33 am
Okey Scooter, First...Gameplay is being changed to LA...Second...For my first big game I wanted something easy but challenging...
Last...if you frown then I hope you dont play ANY remake by ANYONE...that include official remakes from the companies....
Just saying,wasn't trying to start an argument...Any Scoot I hope you will like it in the end...

Happier note uploaded a new concept...It's of hyrule castle...some stuff has changed from the SNES version...
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: A Storm in the Desert on February 15, 2007, 02:55:34 am
Slight tiling error in the top right hand corner near the hole, you've missed a section of wall there.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Kame on February 15, 2007, 03:12:37 am
Redoing ALTTP in GB style? That's even worse than games like OOT2d or MM2d. You're taking a game with pre-designed levels, characters, sounds etc. and all you're doing is changing them to seem as though the original game was really a game for a worse system. It's like taking TP and making all the models low-poly and all the textures low-res and changing the resolution to 640x480.

EDIT: Changed my post a bit to avoid starting a flame war.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Scooternew on February 15, 2007, 03:42:51 am
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Last...if you frown then I hope you dont play ANY remake by ANYONE...that include official remakes from the companies....
What the hell is wrong with you? I never said I'm not going to play this, or I frown down upon fan games. I said I frown down upon THIS, because you aren't doing anything. You're taking an already made game and editing the graphics. Kame basically hits the nail on the head. And, chances are, the engine is more buggy than the original engine. So I don't appreciate this comment.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Kame on February 15, 2007, 03:52:18 am
Also, I might as well just say in addition that not only are you remaking a premade game, you're remaking a premade game using premade materials. Kinda like making a TV dinner out of canned food, isn't it? It has no real point or worth, just something to pass the time or something that you can say "Ah, yeah, this is kind of neat, now it looks like it's on a Gameboy" to and fiddle around with a bit, rather than something actually interesting and worthwhile.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 15, 2007, 05:15:47 am
Also, I might as well just say in addition that not only are you remaking a premade game, you're remaking a premade game using premade materials. Kinda like making a TV dinner out of canned food, isn't it? It has no real point or worth, just something to pass the time or something that you can say "Ah, yeah, this is kind of neat, now it looks like it's on a Gameboy" to and fiddle around with a bit, rather than something actually interesting and worthwhile.
That's kinda like what I'm doing lol...I must have been misunderstood....It's just a big project to work on programming...
To help me with making the detailed programming...
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: .TakaM on February 15, 2007, 06:59:17 am
3d turned 2d remakes are already pretty un-interesting, but 2d to 2d + black and white? not a clever idea and it doesn't look good (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam1/undecided.gif)
I wouldn't play it, and I can't imagine anyone wanting to.. I just don't see the point.

Im getting sick of saying this, but remakes suck, make a custom fangame, its much more interesting
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: King Tetiro on February 15, 2007, 07:03:03 am
Don't listen to what they say, if you want to make a game, make a game.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 15, 2007, 07:21:09 am
Dude.. .TaKam chill...I'm doing this as a help to myself...but I wanted to let others know...After I finish this,I will be grounded enough into
programming so I can start to try my own stuff whether it be Zelda or fricken Tomogochi...lol...
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: .TakaM on February 15, 2007, 07:44:42 am
stop instigating. I'm perfectly calm.
Im saying I don't see how this helps anyone, even yourself, its not even a confidence boost if people are telling you its a pointless, waste of time.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: gm112 on February 15, 2007, 07:46:41 am
This is your decision so stick with it. People may have their opinions but if I were you, stick to your project. Takam I don't understand why you always tell members to quit their fan game projects. This is a zelda fan game site after all, why can't they? Anywho, tfs, this is the game YOU want to make. Not what OTHERS want to make. I'm looking forward to seeing this project in further development.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: .TakaM on February 15, 2007, 07:49:46 am
ummm.. I don't always tell members to drop their fangames, I tell the ones making the remakes I consider very stupid and pointless that theyre very stupid and pointless.

whats next? lttp-lttp style? I know everyone wants to encourage others, but a line needs to be drawn somewhere.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: gm112 on February 15, 2007, 07:53:59 am
Well, it's really getting old. It's the game designers choice to remake a video game.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: .TakaM on February 15, 2007, 07:57:33 am
oh for god's sake gm112, I honestly slapped myself after reading that post.

"its someones decision to decide something"? really!?
its also my opinion I should express my opinion, because I decided to decide that decision


all you're doing is encouraging to disregard opinions and look out for number 1, how incredibly selfish and close minded.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: gm112 on February 15, 2007, 08:01:26 am
oh for god's sake gm112, I honestly slapped myself after reading that post.

"its someones decision to decide something"? really!?
its also my opinion I should express my opinion, because I decided to decide that decision


all you're doing is encouraging to disregard opinions and look out for number 1, how incredibly selfish and close minded.
Selfish and close minded?! Well, you sir aren't the bright one either. You find fan game topics and immediately telling the game designer to stop and you continue to bug them with your opinion. Post your damn opinion and get it over with. If they continue who cares? It's their problem if things don't work out not yours.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: .TakaM on February 15, 2007, 08:05:37 am
oh for god's sake gm112, I honestly slapped myself after reading that post.

"its someones decision to decide something"? really!?
its also my opinion I should express my opinion, because I decided to decide that decision


all you're doing is encouraging to disregard opinions and look out for number 1, how incredibly selfish and close minded.
Selfish and close minded?! Well, you sir aren't the bright one either. You find fan game topics and immediately telling the game designer to stop and you continue to bug them with your opinion. Post your damn opinion and get it over with. If they continue who cares? It's their problem if things don't work out not yours.
just relax gm112, you really need to stop trolling my opinions, it doesn't concern you.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: gm112 on February 15, 2007, 08:08:05 am
oh for god's sake gm112, I honestly slapped myself after reading that post.

"its someones decision to decide something"? really!?
its also my opinion I should express my opinion, because I decided to decide that decision


all you're doing is encouraging to disregard opinions and look out for number 1, how incredibly selfish and close minded.
Selfish and close minded?! Well, you sir aren't the bright one either. You find fan game topics and immediately telling the game designer to stop and you continue to bug them with your opinion. Post your damn opinion and get it over with. If they continue who cares? It's their problem if things don't work out not yours.
just relax gm112, you really need to stop trolling my opinions, it doesn't concern you.
Whatever.. ZFGC is a fan game community, I'm trying to enforce that idea. Their idea for a fan game doesn't concern you either.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: .TakaM on February 15, 2007, 08:14:34 am
I have the feeling you're under the impression that remake = fangame
thats not the case, discouraging remakes doesn't mean discouraging fangames.

and you're saying these remakes shouldn't concern me since Im not the one making them, and considering you aren't making them either, by your argument you have no place telling me what should and shouldnt concern me.

but in my case, I'm saying it should, and does concern me because I think its a waste of potential creativity.
Which is no hole of contradiction. Unlike your argument.
I'm done, infact this will be my last post in this topic, you can say the last word if you want gm112, though anything other than "I admit defeat" is just a plain lie.

and to Theforeshadower, I hope through all of this my point that I think you could be doing something much more creative with your time and energy isn't lost.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: gm112 on February 15, 2007, 08:25:23 am
I have the feeling you're under the impression that remake = fangame
thats not the case, discouraging remakes doesn't mean discouraging fangames.

and you're saying these remakes shouldn't concern me since Im not the one making them, and considering you aren't making them either, by your argument you have no place telling me what should and shouldnt concern me.
but in my case, I'm saying it should, and does concern me because I think its a waste of potential creativity.
In my case I say you shouldn't because it's a waste of time trying to encourage a member to quit his project. I don't believe it's a waste of potential creativity because either way if it succeeds or not, it will most likely teach the member to either improve or move on to things other than fan game development.
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I'm done, infact this will be my last post in this topic, you can say the last word if you want gm112, though anything other than "I admit defeat" is just a plain lie.

and to Theforeshadower, I hope through all of this my point that I think you could be doing something much more creative with your time and energy isn't lost.
By the looks so far, Theforeshadower looks pretty independent on his project. You can't say that his energy is lost or unless he's a member who constantly makes multiple projects one after another. But in the end, it's all a matter of opinion.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Kleaver on February 15, 2007, 08:30:19 am
There is nothing wrong with remaking this for GB style. I for one would love to see some areas and stuff redone in it.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: AoDC on February 15, 2007, 08:30:48 am
If you can't both get along, I'll ban you both. Get over it and back on topic: LTTPGB.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 15, 2007, 08:32:36 am
Woah,sorry that this caused this much controversy...I am still continuing on with it...
Just apologizing for the problem caused...
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: AoDC on February 15, 2007, 08:38:37 am
Dont apologise, you did nothing wrong. You posted a great project with tile progress, and that deserves a star.

(http://www.aic-coatings.com/picts/star-logo.png)

Keep it up, and you might get another =D.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Moon_child on February 15, 2007, 08:59:40 am
I don't really understand why you don't use the LA DX colors? it looks boring without colors.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: gm112 on February 15, 2007, 09:00:26 am
He said that he was going to make a DX version depending on how good it goes.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 15, 2007, 11:00:40 am
Compare please...
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/deepseadev/LegendOfZelda-ALinkToThePast-LightW.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/deepseadev/TotalConceptLTTPGB.jpg
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: alspal on February 15, 2007, 11:32:54 am
I think you could be doing something much more creative with your time and energy isn't lost.
Yes, but its also a valuable learning experience in many ways. Even if you don't think it is the best.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: pxl_moon (dotyue) on February 15, 2007, 04:10:34 pm
insert a open door at the castle like in the standard lttp... it is later the entrance to the dark world, without it wouldnt be good
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Kame on February 15, 2007, 06:02:16 pm
Well, it's really getting old. It's the game designers choice to remake a video game.
I know we're trying to avoid this argument, but I just needed to point this out:
A game designer is a person who designs games. Thus, in the case of this game, Theforeshadower is not the game designer because h did not design the game. The game designer is Takashi Tezuka, who designed the original game. All Theforeshadower did was come up with the concept of the game.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 15, 2007, 06:45:52 pm
insert a open door at the castle like in the standard lttp... it is later the entrance to the dark world, without it wouldnt be good
I am no spriter...I am trying to figure out how to make a door like LttP....
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: pxl_moon (dotyue) on February 15, 2007, 06:52:57 pm
look at the entrance of the maku tree
http://spriters-resource.com/nintendo/zelda/oracle/display.php?file=http://www.spriters-resource.com/nintendo/zelda/oracle/OOAlynnacity.png
(http://spriters-resource.com/nintendo/zelda/oracle/display.php?file=http://www.spriters-resource.com/nintendo/zelda/oracle/OOAlynnacity.png)
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: uma on February 17, 2007, 07:52:03 pm
This is really great.

I've always wanted to see LTTP on the GB. My dreams are comming true! :'((Tears of joy)
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB
Post by: Bboy on February 17, 2007, 09:42:05 pm
Um, guys, you do know that if he did a game with the same hugeness of alttp from scratch, you would tell him to stop, becaus he isn't experienced enough. Like he said before, he can get better at gamemaking and still make a product that some people want. tfs, there is an extra tree NE of Link's house.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB-Read last page!
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 19, 2007, 10:44:03 am
My laptop crashed bigtime forcing me to reset it.Now although I lost all my files,I have renewed inspiration.
Instead of using MMF2,I will be learning/using GM6.I will be starting over from scratch unfortunately.Don't worry...
LttP-GB will be back soon enough...
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB-Read the Last Page!!!
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 19, 2007, 11:01:47 pm
Since my laptop crashed,forcing me to reset it,I lost everything.I no longer desire to work on this...
I thought hard about what others said and what I was getting myself into...It was taking too long just to program the area from Link's
House to the Castle...Yes it was tiled,but not programed...I also realized the experience I would require and I fall short of that caliber...
I bow out humbly...If you want what I did find again and my backups PM if you wish to continue the project...
Sorry again...
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB-I bow out humbly.....
Post by: pxl_moon (dotyue) on February 20, 2007, 12:03:33 am
lol? it chrashed AGAIN? xD
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB-I bow out humbly.....
Post by: Theforeshadower on February 20, 2007, 12:14:30 am
No..it's just a hassle....I got a new idea that's easier and maybe my laptop wont crash again...
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB-I bow out humbly.....
Post by: Scooternew on February 20, 2007, 01:47:31 am
At least we won't suffer through this now. Funny how every single game seems to be cancelled because of a laptop's crashing. First of all, make a backup. Second of all, someone intelligent and truly devoted to his or her project won't just quit a project because it was lost 10 seconds worth into coding. Don't deny you didn't really have anything that was extremely valuable, all you did was have some mockups with an unoriginal, ugly black and white graphic style.

OMG FLAME!!!!
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB-I bow out humbly.....
Post by: Mewgull on February 20, 2007, 03:41:04 am
I'm sorry to hear that.
if I had lost 10 mins of programming I would scream, because I do a lot in 10 mins.
if I had lost that much, I would just quit for about 2 days, untill I cooled down :P
what I am saying, is that you should never GIVE up, just put that game on hold.  Giving up to something early in life can be devistating later on. (trust me)
but you may do what you want, I am not forcing you to listen to me :)
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB-I bow out humbly.....
Post by: AoDC on February 20, 2007, 07:31:03 am
That's a damn shame.
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB-I bow out humbly.....
Post by: King Tetiro on February 20, 2007, 07:44:53 am
TFS! Don't quit! Get a memory key like I do and use that as a back up. (In fact, I use the memo stick more often!)
Title: Re: Link to the Past-GB-I bow out humbly.....
Post by: pxl_moon (dotyue) on February 20, 2007, 09:51:16 am
do what they say... when my pc crashed / trash'ed, i had the whole story of my game lost and most of the graphics i had in development... but i just started a day ago my story from the scratch and it seems a little better than it was before at the beginning. Further i had a few new ideas for character designs... so, dont give up ( even when its just a zelda remake ).

btw: when you give up on LTTP then i kill you

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