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« on: May 02, 2007, 02:48:59 am »
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No no, this isn't a topic complaining about the staff, the staff is just fine.

I was just going to complain about the "ZFGC staff" custom-titles (or whatever they're called) that the mods/admins have.

You guys need to CLARIFY and SPECIFY!

Who is what?  Are there any staff positions other than mod and admin?  Who's a mod, who's an admin?  Can you at least color the usernames so it's easier to tell who is staff, and preferably blue for mods, red for admins.

For example, when MiN left, I didn't even know that he was a mod.  How would I have known, I don't look at people's little title things. 
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Re: ZFGC Staff
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2007, 03:03:54 am »
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We've actually been discussing this a bit privately.  Originally the idea was to promote staff unity, but it seems to be causing confusion as members of the Events Staff etc. are being PMed with requests to moderate things that they can't do anything about.  Hopefully something will change soon.  In the meantime, there really aren't too many of us who are actually general mods.  The rest are working on other aspects of the site or forum. 

Originally it was just like what you said, with separate categories based on what each member's role was, but there got to be so many categories that everyone was lumped together to prevent confusion.  Guess that one kinda backfired, hehe.

Oh, and MiN was actually an admin, mostly for technical reasons dealing with fixing and maintaining the forum/site, though he also stepped in to help with moderation issues when needed.

EDIT:  if it helps, the people who I know are moderators are:  myself, Kleaver, 4Sword, TomPel, CrystalAngel04, AoDC, MasterGohan Zero, Fox, and I think cpprograms and imfletcher as well.  I'm probably forgetting one or two, so I apologize if I have.
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Re: ZFGC Staff
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2007, 06:18:03 am »
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Yeh as danethman said it was originally and idea to promote staff unity but failed pretty badly, we are discussiong alternative ways to deal with it at the moment.

For reference though the admins are;
Me, Andrew, Windy & 2awesome4apossum - The last two only have powers to deal with technical or events releated things, please don't PM them asking them to moderate things.

And all mods are;
4Sword, AoDC, CrystalAngel04, dantheman, Fox, MasterGohan Zero, Ræn
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2007, 11:43:55 am »
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Possum is an admin O_o  Didn't he just come back like a few weeks ago?
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2007, 11:55:16 am »
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Quote from: Limey on May 02, 2007, 11:43:55 am
Possum is an admin O_o  Didn't he just come back like a few weeks ago?
Admin for technical reasons only, he is not meant to use his powers for moderation. He only has them to allow him to setup boards, membergroups and so on.
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Re: ZFGC Staff
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2007, 05:12:44 pm »
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Quote from: Infinitus on May 02, 2007, 06:18:03 am
Yeh as danethman said it was originally and idea to promote staff unity but failed pretty badly, we are discussiong alternative ways to deal with it at the moment.

For reference though the admins are;
And all mods are;
4Sword, AoDC, CrystalAngel04, dantheman, Fox, MasterGohan Zero, Ræn

Thanks man, you forgot me >_>
Anyways, like said before, idea was good, but it just kinda created confusion.
I'd say we should just keep the older system, where mods and admins are separate.
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Re: ZFGC Staff
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2007, 11:18:15 pm »
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Ræn <-- He quit. :p

We'll most likely fix this when I can sit down and think about it properly and not be at work, or be tired. (aka the weekend if someone reminds me).
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Re: ZFGC Staff
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2007, 11:19:30 pm »
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Quote from: Andrew on May 02, 2007, 11:18:15 pm
Ræn <-- He quit. :p
Why is he still set as a moderator then O_o. That list is jsut a direct cut / paste from the admincp.
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Re: ZFGC Staff
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2007, 11:20:12 am »
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Quote from: TomPel on May 02, 2007, 05:12:44 pm
Quote from: Infinitus on May 02, 2007, 06:18:03 am
Yeh as danethman said it was originally and idea to promote staff unity but failed pretty badly, we are discussiong alternative ways to deal with it at the moment.

For reference though the admins are;
And all mods are;
4Sword, AoDC, CrystalAngel04, dantheman, Fox, MasterGohan Zero, Ræn

Thanks man, you forgot me >_>
Anyways, like said before, idea was good, but it just kinda created confusion.
I'd say we should just keep the older system, where mods and admins are separate.
See, even the Admins don't know who the mods are XD.
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2007, 12:10:11 pm »
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Quote from: Dayjo on May 03, 2007, 11:20:12 am
Quote from: TomPel on May 02, 2007, 05:12:44 pm
Quote from: Infinitus on May 02, 2007, 06:18:03 am
Yeh as danethman said it was originally and idea to promote staff unity but failed pretty badly, we are discussiong alternative ways to deal with it at the moment.

For reference though the admins are;
And all mods are;
4Sword, AoDC, CrystalAngel04, dantheman, Fox, MasterGohan Zero, Ræn

Thanks man, you forgot me >_>
Anyways, like said before, idea was good, but it just kinda created confusion.
I'd say we should just keep the older system, where mods and admins are separate.
See, even the Admins don't know who the mods are XD.
It's a sneaky administrative tactic used to circumvent blame :o
We pretend we don't know, so when someone complains about one of them, we plead ignorance :O!
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Re: ZFGC Staff
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2007, 12:38:04 pm »
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Why not have ZFGC Staff, Moderation Staff, and Non-Moderation Staff? Then people will know who can be contacted and who can't without getting complicated.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2007, 12:48:30 pm »
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Because then its essentially the same as the admin / mod system.

Just leave it with us, we will sort it out.
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Quote from: Invalid Name on May 03, 2007, 12:48:30 pm
Because then its essentially the same as the admin / mod system.

Just leave it with us, we will sort it out.
This is in forum feedback.

Staff systems are never equal. Staff unity, you said above, that's why there would only be three titles and all would end in "Staff", to be job-based and not level-based. You wouldn't go to customer service in Home Depot to check out items, and you wouldn't go to returns to get help with the selection of doors. You need a clear, non-discriminatory system, and, in my view, this is it.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2007, 09:21:45 pm »
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Quote from: Kame on May 03, 2007, 12:53:30 pm
Quote from: Invalid Name on May 03, 2007, 12:48:30 pm
Because then its essentially the same as the admin / mod system.

Just leave it with us, we will sort it out.
This is in forum feedback.

Staff systems are never equal. Staff unity, you said above, that's why there would only be three titles and all would end in "Staff", to be job-based and not level-based. You wouldn't go to customer service in Home Depot to check out items, and you wouldn't go to returns to get help with the selection of doors. You need a clear, non-discriminatory system, and, in my view, this is it.

It was a lack of communication between Helios and I. The day the new forums were launched, I had to run out and do some things, and I briefly told him what I had in mind in terms of 'staff unity' and staff categories. I didn't correctly relay the message the way I wanted to, thus resulting in what we have now. It was never fixed because we never had a reason prompted to fix it, and it worked fine for a while.

As I said it will be fixed soon, it wont be hard to do, just some profiles to change, which is time consuming.
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Re: ZFGC Staff
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2007, 08:30:21 pm »
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Erm, sorry to bump this back up but, I was reading the members list and found this:
AcidGame       ZFGC Staff 2006-05-27 242
What is AcidGame? I don't think moderator, so what?
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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2007, 08:32:52 pm »
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Events staff I think.
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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2007, 08:35:24 pm »
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Quote from: Darunia on May 07, 2007, 08:30:21 pm
Erm, sorry to bump this back up but, I was reading the members list and found this:
AcidGame       ZFGC Staff 2006-05-27 242
What is AcidGame? I don't think moderator, so what?

I would assume hes "ZFGC Staff"

Which may consist of, Events, Site, Development, etc.

Just general staff, moderators are labeled, administrators are listed, chat staff is noted.
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Re: ZFGC Staff
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2007, 08:37:54 pm »
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If he's on Events, he ought to be removed.  But since I don't know that... we really ought to be a bit more organized as far as staff is concerned.
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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2007, 09:20:04 pm »
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Quote from: 2awesome4apossum on May 07, 2007, 08:37:54 pm
If he's on Events, he ought to be removed.  But since I don't know that... we really ought to be a bit more organized as far as staff is concerned.

^ Chat Staff, now that i think about it.
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Re: ZFGC Staff
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2007, 10:49:47 pm »
or, why not keep it simple :p
Administrator
Global Moderator
Chat Staff
Event Staff


and hey, im still a mod of this forum feedback board :P
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