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WOW. Thanks Ubisoft!
« on: July 31, 2012, 02:17:28 pm »
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http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4311264

Thank you very much for hiding rootkits as part of your DRM.
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Re: WOW. Thanks Ubisoft!
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2012, 02:54:23 pm »
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Quote from: MG-Zero on July 31, 2012, 02:17:28 pm
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4311264

Thank you very much for hiding rootkits as part of your DRM.

Oh wow. Time to tell my bf (he works at Ubi). Hahaha oh lord.

This looks a lot like an inexperienced coder with non-mal intention. Still hilarious though.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2012, 03:34:20 pm »
That's not a surprise.. and its scary to know that more and more companies are resorting to rootkits to "Secure" their titles. When will there be a law preventing this kind of !@#$%? Oh, wait...

But in all seriousness Ubisoft pulled a Sony and we all saw what happened to Sony when their rootkit got exposed.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2012, 04:45:01 pm »
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This has actually already been patched

The only thing that's really dumb about it is how they didn't even apologize for leaving such a gaping security hole on people's computers or how the people who found it didn't contact Ubi first
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2012, 08:56:41 pm »
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Can anyone explain this to us not so tech savy people?
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 09:02:19 pm »
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Simplified: Ubisoft had a way off monitoring the computers with the games bought from them so they could prevent so called "Unlicenced" prducts to be distributed. But it failed since it was an illegal way to try and stop another illegal action and some people that found it were stupid enough not to report it right away.
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Quote from: Shadow宇宙の神 on July 31, 2012, 09:02:19 pm
Simplified: Ubisoft had a way off monitoring the computers with the games bought from them so they could prevent so called "Unlicenced" prducts to be distributed. But it failed since it was an illegal way to try and stop another illegal action and some people that found it were stupid enough not to report it right away.

No...I'd suggest not talking if you don't know what you're talking about.

Kleaver, basically Ubisoft games run a DRM that force users to play online via uPlay. This is an anti-piracy technique. What ended up happening with said DRM is a backdoor application was installed to allow pretty much any outside website source to gain access to your computer. It was patched about 9 hours after it was found.

As much as this is bad, you know...bugs happen. It's hard to predict something like this happening, especially when Ubisoft employees are rushed under harsh deadlines. Some managers think it's best that something is done quickly and not as efficiently just to meet a deadline...but yeah. It's patched.
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But uh, aren't those things encrypted? WTF?
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2012, 09:50:08 pm »
I suppose cryptography plays a role in DRM, yes.. But this particular problem with the DRM was an oversight that got corrected. I personally don't think DRM stops piracy. It's just a waste of time and resources but you can't convince bureaucratic pinheads.. I mean, to cite an actual source, Valve themselves noted that one of their best paying customers were Eastern Europe which is interesting due to the high amounts of piracy in that region statistically speaking. Sorry I'm probably driving this topic off-topic. ;p
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Quote from: gm112 on July 31, 2012, 09:50:08 pm
I suppose cryptography plays a role in DRM, yes.. But this particular problem with the DRM was an oversight that got corrected. I personally don't think DRM stops piracy. It's just a waste of time and resources but you can't convince bureaucratic pinheads.. I mean, to cite an actual source, Valve themselves noted that one of their best paying customers were Eastern Europe which is interesting due to the high amounts of piracy in that region statistically speaking. Sorry I'm probably driving this topic off-topic. ;p

Exactly.  It just hurts the paying customer who wants offline modes.


By the way, which games was this on?  The only Ubisoft games I have are the Rainbow6 games upto Las Vegas 2 on my laptop that I have via Steam.

NVM, I opened the link finally.  lol XD

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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2012, 08:19:27 am »
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couldn't open the link.. trend micro tells me its bad and may have a virus or malicious software.. oh noes.
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2012, 03:28:02 pm »
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lol trend micro.
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2012, 07:41:56 pm »
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Quote from: MG-Zero on August 01, 2012, 03:28:02 pm
lol trend micro.

you laugh now, but its better than norton, and mcafee... those were my options, and i chose trend micro :P
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2012, 02:36:44 am »
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Avast seems alright, I've only had it autosandbox 'suspicious' programs a few times... when they were things that I'd actually made >_>
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2012, 03:59:58 am »
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haven't tried it yet, nor have i tried AVG.
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Quote from: Crim on August 01, 2012, 07:41:56 pm
Quote from: MG-Zero on August 01, 2012, 03:28:02 pm
lol trend micro.

you laugh now, but its better than norton, and mcafee... those were my options, and i chose trend micro :P

Implying I use garbage like Norton ;) Comodo Internet Security and Malware Bytes!
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2012, 02:02:29 pm »
Avira's good, too.. Malwarebytes is pretty powerful and for when the active tools fail, combofix does a fairly decent job at cleaning up the mess. I don't trust AVG as it performs ill on benchmark tests.
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2012, 04:12:11 pm »
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malware bytes is amazing. gm is definitely right on that one. if trend micro doesn't get it, malware bytes does.

Quote from: gm112 on August 02, 2012, 02:02:29 pm
I don't trust AVG as it performs ill on benchmark tests.

ill keep that in mind. i still have like 2 more years of trend i think.
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