Awesome discussion. Read it all, and seriously, pics of dead babies? WTF? What kind of monster would post that &#@%? Good that an agreement was reached, but a good point was proven. Every year, half the forum's title becomes less and less important. Now I've finished 2 fan games, but have been unable to get them. An uncompleted fan game had to be stopped since my file was corrupted, but I have an EXE of the first world complete. A Zelda fan game I was making is incomplete but is good, even with voice acting. I believe in the concept of fan games, and z3 is helping that. The forum was originally designed around OoT2D and other fan games like it. But through ZFGC's many incarnations, the fan games' importance has slowly declined. We need to go back to the original ZFGC spirit, back to when fan games dominated the forum. I hope everyone here thinks I'm making some good points. Just keep this in mind: if the idea of fan games become lost forever, so will this forum. Its roots are based in them.