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Title: <DEFEATED> Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 05, 2007, 05:05:19 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/ChopikNew-1.png)

Story - Chopik is the oddly one-of-a-kind animal who happens to be the hero of this tale. He roamed the forests thick and thamble until one morning Chopik met two Beavers, hard puffing away at building "Fort Beaver". Chopik stopped to say hi. But before he could the Beavers challenged him to a Build-Off. He had no time to decline the challenge either. The rules were simple enough; construct a building bigger than "Fort Beaver" by moonup or be forced to serve the Beaver bros forever! The sun rose up, and then it went down, and one building stood the most towerful. Which one was it? Vote for Chopik to uncover the rest of the story! Will Chopik end up serving a lifetime of Beaver Control!? Lets sure hope not!

:D

EDIT: New Story!

EDIT: Edited Story!

EDIT: Edited Story!

EDIT: New Chopik!

EDIT: Edited Chopik!

EDIT: Desaturated Chopik!
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Hoffy on July 05, 2007, 05:25:38 am
Kawaii!
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 05, 2007, 05:26:19 am
Thank you. :) It took me forever to resize the Antlers...
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: uma on July 05, 2007, 05:29:00 am
Oh... oh o h oh! This is going to be tough... you or InvaderLupus! I prefer your character design more because of its extreme simplicity and the swirly bellybutton...

ARGH! I'll just vote when voting comes to time. Until then, I'm promising no one my vote.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 05, 2007, 05:39:04 am
Thanks again for positive feedback. I luv you Uma. That banner is just great. I would use it but I need to leave space for when I make Chopik support banners.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: uma on July 05, 2007, 05:46:39 am
Your welcome :3.

Fergie makes my pants feel tight. :3 But you all probably didn't need to know that. :-[ *New personal quote for my FA*

Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 05, 2007, 07:26:29 am
I dont know what to say Uma... Have fun with that? :-*
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on July 05, 2007, 01:42:02 pm
I'm not sure. I love love love the character design, and I also love the story but the two just don't fit. The first seems great for one of those E-rated Nintendo games that everybody plays because it's lovely, and the story seems like an eerie feudal Japanese folk-tale. And those two things just don't fit. I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: sjegtp on July 05, 2007, 02:41:57 pm
Kawaii!
I agree :P
I loved the design, but I didn't like the story very much.

Oh... oh o h oh! This is going to be tough... you or InvaderLupus! I prefer your character design more because of its extreme simplicity and the swirly bellybutton...

ARGH! I'll just vote when voting comes to time. Until then, I'm promising no one my vote.
Stop being humble uma, you know your character rocks too!
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: NeoGeo-x on July 05, 2007, 04:24:26 pm
Too bad there aren't a lot of girls on ZFGC. If there were, this character would make it to the semi-finals for sure..at least. :P

But since there aren't, we'll just have to wait and see how guys like this. As for myself, permanently in search of my feminine side, think this character looks gorgeous (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPI8zTWILAk).
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: uma on July 05, 2007, 05:46:55 pm
Quote
Stop being humble uma, you know your character rocks too!

But I never vote for myself so...
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 05, 2007, 06:05:54 pm
I'm not sure. I love love love the character design, and I also love the story but the two just don't fit. The first seems great for one of those E-rated Nintendo games that everybody plays because it's lovely, and the story seems like an eerie feudal Japanese folk-tale. And those two things just don't fit. I'm not sure.

It does sound a little serious for the character doesnt it... May I ask for a story re-write Hoffy? If not may the force be with me.

Neo... :)

Uma I still luv you.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kren on July 05, 2007, 07:00:20 pm
Reminds me to a pokemon :P, The only thing I dislike is the part that we need to vote so he can win the building contest.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 05, 2007, 07:10:07 pm
Its all I could come up with to make it sound friendly enough. What Pokemon does he remind you to?
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on July 05, 2007, 07:18:46 pm
Moldrill, you're hilarious. The new story is so ridiculous I can't decide whether I love or hate it. Good luck to you.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kren on July 05, 2007, 07:22:23 pm
mostly the style and the colours looks to much like a pokemon.. mostly these:
(http://www.bov.ch/anthony/pokemon/char_203.gif)
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on July 05, 2007, 07:33:36 pm
No, it's much more simplistic and appealing than that freakish creature.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 05, 2007, 07:57:16 pm
Haha. I see a resembelance. Just like I do in any giraffe like animal. :P
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: cb43569 on July 05, 2007, 08:20:02 pm
I like it :D. Just like all your stuff is awesome. But for some reason it reminds me of the Pokemon Giraffarig or whatever the heck it's called.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 05, 2007, 08:32:09 pm
Ya know that might be because he is a giraffe-like animal. :P
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Hoffy on July 05, 2007, 10:13:49 pm
I'm not sure. I love love love the character design, and I also love the story but the two just don't fit. The first seems great for one of those E-rated Nintendo games that everybody plays because it's lovely, and the story seems like an eerie feudal Japanese folk-tale. And those two things just don't fit. I'm not sure.

It does sound a little serious for the character doesnt it... May I ask for a story re-write Hoffy? If not may the force be with me.
You can edit anything at any time you like before the brackets. It's your character, and technically the competition hasn't even begun... So you can do pretty much anything! Give him a machine gun, it doesn't mind me!

Its all I could come up with to make it sound friendly enough. What Pokemon does he remind you to?
Girafarig, actually.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 06, 2007, 12:52:38 am
Bannar. A little obtrtusive I thinks. I will make a better one(s) later. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/ChopikBannar.png) (http://www.zfgc.com/index.php?topic=18473.0)

Put this in your signo:
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[url=http://www.zfgc.com/index.php?topic=18473.0][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/ChopikBannar.png[/img][/url]
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: uma on July 06, 2007, 01:03:19 am
mostly the style and the colours looks to much like a pokemon.. mostly these:
(http://www.bov.ch/anthony/pokemon/char_203.gif)

Yep. Even though the style and the entire character look absolutely nothing like that, people still point out that it copies something because it's a giraffe.

Sorry, but phail. I don't even think you were serious.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kren on July 06, 2007, 01:06:45 am
mostly the style and the colours looks to much like a pokemon.. mostly these:
(http://www.bov.ch/anthony/pokemon/char_203.gif)

Yep. Even though the style and the entire character look absolutely nothing like that, people still point out that it copies something because it's a giraffe.

Sorry, but phail. I don't even think you were serious.
D: to who are you saying "Phail"? to the people who said it was similar or to the creator of the character?
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 06, 2007, 01:09:51 am
Uma means that the one who said I was copying is Phail. I know this because Uma hates all people who point out that a character is "copying" someone. Oh noes he are copying a draff!
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: a Hint of Lime on July 06, 2007, 01:13:59 am
Can we please get off this whole idea of copying?  First of all, this character only looks slightly remeniscent of that pokemon, and it's obviously not a copy or clone.  But that is irrelevant anyways, because there is no requirement that the image has to be an original creation.  Now, you guys need to lighten up and stop criticizing other people's creations so much.

By the way, I like this one, he's very nicely drawn (I like the sig :D)
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 06, 2007, 01:15:09 am
Thank you Limey!
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: uma on July 06, 2007, 01:18:27 am
D: to who are you saying "Phail"? to the people who said it was similar or to the creator of the character?

Phail to the people who point these things out. The only way it could work is if the character actually looked like something that already existed. Sure, its a giraffe, but it looks nothing like that pokemon.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on July 06, 2007, 01:21:33 am
Yeah, it's a really inventive design. Unless some better characters pop up, You've got my vote with this guy.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 06, 2007, 01:48:01 am
^_^ Thanks. The last time someone said that I got their vote was back when Digit the Penguin was around. :D
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Briannabo on July 06, 2007, 05:02:50 am
Haha Chopik is kind of cute. XD Reminds me of a giraffe.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on July 06, 2007, 05:24:51 am
What a uniqe observation.



Sorry.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 08, 2007, 04:16:52 am
Im so lazy. I dont even want to make a better banner. Someone want to do it for me?  :-*
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on July 08, 2007, 04:59:41 am
(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1223/chopikbannervb8.png)
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1223/chopikbannervb8.png

Too tired for anything better.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 08, 2007, 05:03:37 am
Awesome. Thanks man. I'll use it. But you gotta make it link to this topic... I'll do it.

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[url=http://www.zfgc.com/index.php?topic=18473.0][img]http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1223/chopikbannervb8.png[/img][/url]
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 13, 2007, 05:44:56 am
Graphix Update

OLD
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/Chopik.png)

NEW!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/chopikplus.png)

Make sure you vote Chopik or else! ;)
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Vandavil on July 13, 2007, 06:31:35 am
Nice!
What program haveth thou used?
-Skth
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 13, 2007, 06:36:49 am
Thanks! I used Illustrator.

(Gotta admit, Moldy did the shading for me)
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: TanukiMario on July 13, 2007, 12:41:05 pm
Very nice! I don't like how the neck is very slimmed down though, but it's definently an improvement. I really like how it's such a simple design, but in this case, simplicity works well!
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 13, 2007, 06:25:06 pm
Thanks. Any suggestions on making him better?
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Dumb_Ass on July 13, 2007, 06:51:33 pm
Update the support banners, you and Moldorma forgot to update your banners after your graphics updates.
EDIT: Also, you didn't say Chopik accepted. I assume he did, but I'm like that with story flaws. So yeah, please fix it.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 14, 2007, 06:54:23 am
I know Blue. I was just getting around to it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/chopikbanner.png) (http://www.zfgc.com/index.php?topic=18473.0)
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Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: cb43569 on July 14, 2007, 01:39:43 pm
I love the new shading. Oh, and did you update the story? I believe last time I read it, the Beavers imprisoned Chopik and you needed to vote to free him. Now it's vote to make it lightier?
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: uma on July 14, 2007, 06:20:03 pm
The new shading does look pretty pwnsome! :3
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Krynn on July 14, 2007, 06:29:38 pm
Ill vote for you all the way to retarded cheesy.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: NeoGeo-x on July 14, 2007, 08:14:29 pm
Thanks. Any suggestions on making him better?
Making him green and furry, shortening his neck and attaching a basket filled with skulls to his back.

Actually, nah. Keep Chopik this way, it's the way I like him.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 14, 2007, 11:21:34 pm
Heh. Thanks guys. Yes I changed the story. Like it?
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on July 21, 2007, 06:05:47 pm
Old Chopik > New Chopik
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 21, 2007, 08:22:18 pm
How can this be!? Kame, the old Chopik was terribly shaded. Many had told me so. It is sad to see such a dedicated vote lost to a poor cause. I hope you will still vote him over Tam Tam.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on July 31, 2007, 01:43:48 pm
Look at those two:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/chopikplus.png)(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6894/chopikdz5.png)

OK, I will say I do like the new neck better. But the shading is awful.
If you're going to use solid-color shading you can't be progressive. It just looks awful. And the spots of lighter color around the edges at the bottom look awful and could not possibly come from the same "light source" as the rest of the body. The colored outline looks crappy, especially against the horns. Solid-color shading only uses one shade, although ahighlight can be added.

Looking at those two, I can't see why on earth you'd choose the second. It looks like a sloppy, unprofessional, unfinished piece of work with lots of mistakes so far. The first is smooth, easy on the eyes, solid and simple. It looks like something from a WW-esque sort of game. The second looks like a badly animated children's game.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 31, 2007, 09:00:00 pm
If I win this match against Moldorma then I will get better shading yet simpler than the newest shading.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on July 31, 2007, 09:26:28 pm
and I will continue to vote for you. ^_^
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on July 31, 2007, 10:12:33 pm
Aww. Thanks. Since Cedris is gone can you put Chopiks banner in your sig?
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on August 01, 2007, 10:03:03 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/Chopik.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/chopikplus.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/Chopik-1.png)

Evolution of a Chopiks. The one on the right is the one I wish to use now. In my next match please use the updated graphics.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: NickAVV on August 01, 2007, 10:08:13 pm
Yay! Its insanely better. :D
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: sjegtp on August 01, 2007, 10:44:01 pm
I still prefer the first one.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Halu on August 01, 2007, 11:11:18 pm
Take the first one and elongate his neck.
Instant win.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: NickAVV on August 01, 2007, 11:33:36 pm
D: How can you possibly prefer that thing to the newest one? This is madness!
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Dumb_Ass on August 01, 2007, 11:45:27 pm
I like the first one for it's legs, eeny teeny instead of giant elephant legs.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on August 02, 2007, 12:24:55 am
Take the first one and elongate his neck.
Instant win.
Exactly. Elephant legs and overly bright colors? Crap.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Dumb_Ass on August 02, 2007, 12:36:22 am
I think him with a big neck makes him look phat. It'd rule if you could keep it short.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on August 02, 2007, 02:05:29 am
Elephant Legs = win.

Bright Colors = he's not an emo. he is a bright and happy character.

Phat Neck = by big i assume you mean width. i will make the neck skinnier tomorrow.

TO EVERYONE WHO HAS A PROBLEM WITH CHOPIK!

If I do not fix these problems it is cause I like the way they look. Everyone seems to like the first one best. Okay, if in his next match they do what I ask and use the updated artwork; just envision the artwork you like... AND VOTE CHOPIK! Whether he wins of loses, I will reveal the end of the story.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on August 02, 2007, 03:26:03 am
Envision the artwork we like? OK, how about this? I'll envision that the Red Shirt Boys are actually the cast of Doctor Who and vote for them. Right? Yeah? No. If people don't like the art, change it. Plus, your first image has got a nice area between being to desaturated and too bright. Your others are too bright. And the elephant legs take away the smooth, bubbly, organic look he has. They look clumsy and awful and new Chopik sucks - revert to first.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: InvaderLupus on August 02, 2007, 04:48:06 am
Elephant Legs = win.

Bright Colors = he's not an emo. he is a bright and happy character.

Phat Neck = by big i assume you mean width. i will make the neck skinnier tomorrow.

TO EVERYONE WHO HAS A PROBLEM WITH CHOPIK!

If I do not fix these problems it is cause I like the way they look. Everyone seems to like the first one best. Okay, if in his next match they do what I ask and use the updated artwork; just envision the artwork you like... AND VOTE CHOPIK! Whether he wins of loses, I will reveal the end of the story.

Moldrill, they're giving you constructive criticism about the drawing of your character. They're telling you what they think you can do to improve it. And seeing as this is a competition where you want people to like how you character is (not just yourself), it would be a good idea to consider their suggestions.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on August 02, 2007, 02:33:31 pm
I have considered their suggestions...

... D: Fine. I will give him a skinnier neck, bubbly legs, and more pastel colors. Anything else?
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on August 02, 2007, 09:06:45 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/Chopik.png)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/chopikplus.png)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/Chopik-1.png)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/ChopikNew.png)

Evolution of a Chopiks. Again.

Now?
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: cb43569 on August 02, 2007, 09:11:02 pm
Fourth, but desaturate the colours a bit, please.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on August 02, 2007, 09:20:54 pm
..the original is still better, besides the neck. The legs coming out of the body instead of from underneath just look odd however it's done. And the other color on the lowe rhal fof the stomach on the original looks very nice.. as does the solid outline.

Basically the only thing about the original that isn't as good is the straight neck. Number 2 had the best neck shape.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: cb43569 on August 02, 2007, 09:27:36 pm
Yeah, I agree with Kame on the neck :D
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: NickAVV on August 02, 2007, 09:30:00 pm
Three is still the best. You're all nuts. Especially Kame.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: sjegtp on August 02, 2007, 09:32:16 pm
For me the first one is still better.

I'd recommend using the second one's body with the colors of the first one. Then adding some shading to the face (but different from the second one's shading)
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on August 02, 2007, 09:48:51 pm
The fourth does have shading on the face. Its a slight gradient.

It seems that here I cannot please everyone. I do not wish to lose votes for these silly little things. Although I will try and follow as much of your advice I cannot do everything that everyone wants. This should not change who you vote for. These are just details. The important thing is the concept is liked.

As for the legs coming off the front, it makes him seem much nicer looking in my opinion. It looks like he is in a sitting position almost. I always thought the old legs looked awkward. They don't make sense if you think about it. I seem to have lost the file for the first two Chopik's unfortunately so I hope the newest one has made some more people a bit happier.

I gave him bubbly legs like asked for, although I did not make them odd like the old ones. And I gave him a skinnier neck.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on August 02, 2007, 10:42:04 pm
The "odd" old ones are nice because they're ver smooth and come straight out of the body like everything else in the image. And no you probably can't please everyone. But you can please the majority that prefers desaturated colors and a skinny neck.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on August 02, 2007, 11:11:24 pm
I have made the neck skinnier. I am too tired today to desaturate the colors. And I still dont see why. Give me a good reason to and I will desaturate them tomorrow.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on August 02, 2007, 11:30:29 pm
(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8963/awesomechopikgh2.png)

Chopik wins.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on August 02, 2007, 11:59:47 pm
I would have to say not Kame. I have some complaints with yours. I dislike whatever effect you used on your outlines. And again I dislike his old legs. I will desaturate the colors tomorrow but other than that you have no reason for disliking the new one.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on August 03, 2007, 12:07:12 am
Hai I desaturated him by a very incredibly small amount. :D

NEW(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/ChopikNew-1.png)   SLIGHTLY OLD(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/redwingedavenger/ChopikNew.png)
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Kame on August 03, 2007, 12:32:50 am
I know, the lines went wonky when I traced your image into Inkscape, but I kind of like it - it has a nice free-flowing feel to it. Anyway, it's just an example of the ideal Chopik.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: NickAVV on August 03, 2007, 01:15:08 am
Your ideal Chopik perhaps. Mine is the third of course.

And yes, Chopik does win.
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Beavercanoe on August 03, 2007, 07:20:14 pm
I voted Chopik :D :D!!! Atleased, I think I did....
Title: Re: Chopik
Post by: Moldrill on August 03, 2007, 10:02:15 pm
:D I love my fans and my fans love Chopik. :P Keep on voting! By the way, whose going to vote Chopik until the end? Probably no one. :-\

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