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Management / Re: Plot hole?
« on: December 13, 2015, 07:04:48 pm »
I know that the last post here was long ago but this doesn't seem to be finalized yet so I want to give a comment on the ideas.
I like this idea the most, but I would change it a little bit:
Link finds the other cogs and goes back to the castle to meet with Ganon. Ganon tells him that he gathered information from many books in the castle library and discovered that the last cog was actually inside of the castle. Link goes to find it, discover a secret path behind one of the bookshelf in the library (pushing a special book about the cogs or taking it out to activate the mechanism) -> leads to a small dungeon.
Two possibilities here:
1. Before he can enter Zelda and a Sheikah appear, Link hides very fast behind another bookshelf in the middle of the room, Zelda and the Shiekah are wondering why the path is already open but go in saying "We should act fast. I want it to be secure.".
2. Link enters the dungeon. Hears someone coming. Hides inside a barrel or jug. Zelda and the Sheikah enter the dungeon. They are wondering why the path was already open. Zelda say "We should act fast. I want it to be secure." and they both go deeper into the dungeon.
Link goes through the dungeon. Some puzzles, some enemys, some traps (as some kind of security mechanisms). At the end of the dungeon he reaches an altar where Zelda and the Sheikah are standing. Link hides immediately behind a pillar. Zelda gives the cog to the Shiekah and tells him to bring it to the Sheikah stronghold as it would be safe there and she has the feeling that something bad will happen soon. The Sheikah and Zelda leave.
Maybe some kind of boss fight could be added here either before the scence with the Sheikah and Zelda or afterwards (BUT not against Zelda or the Sheikah as I think it would be much better storywise if Link stay unrecognized). Afterwards a teleport field appears (like in the big dungeons the blue and red ones) and brings Link back to the entrance of the secret path/ next to the library. Link goes back to Ganon, talks to him.
And than it goes on like already in the plot (With a few additions)
"I see.. so the cog was taken from the castle to be protected by the royal family’s servants. The one, who was with Zelda, is one of them. They are called the Shadow Folk. The Sheikah,” The king says.
“After a war between my ancestors and the Hylians left my people exiled in the desert, the Sheikah were tasked with guarding the path back to Hyrule so we might never return. Their icy resolve to their duty was almost as crushing as the unforgiving heat of the desert. ” He presents Link with a key. “The Sheikah fortress, of which Zelda talked about, lies at the desert’s mouth, at the end of the Valley of Death. The valley is closed off, but you may be able to sneak in. This key is ceremonially given to the messenger to the Shadow Folk. I’m afraid it was unceremoniously taken from him. Now you are the new messenger. Be careful. ”
The Shiekah don't think that there is Hyrule is in danger, but take the cog as Zelda requests it. They might also think that Zelda's worries are unjustified.
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If we stick to Ganon thinking the cog was with the Royal Family, we might as well add a dramatic kind of event when he goes back to get that one. Like he goes into the throne room and Zelda is giving the cog to a Sheikah, and she sees Link and calls the guards, he has to use agility/stealth to escape, then try to sneak into the Sheikah stronghold. Which, there, he gets caught and thrown out, meets the Hero's Shade, goes to the desert, etc.
I like this idea the most, but I would change it a little bit:
Link finds the other cogs and goes back to the castle to meet with Ganon. Ganon tells him that he gathered information from many books in the castle library and discovered that the last cog was actually inside of the castle. Link goes to find it, discover a secret path behind one of the bookshelf in the library (pushing a special book about the cogs or taking it out to activate the mechanism) -> leads to a small dungeon.
Two possibilities here:
1. Before he can enter Zelda and a Sheikah appear, Link hides very fast behind another bookshelf in the middle of the room, Zelda and the Shiekah are wondering why the path is already open but go in saying "We should act fast. I want it to be secure.".
2. Link enters the dungeon. Hears someone coming. Hides inside a barrel or jug. Zelda and the Sheikah enter the dungeon. They are wondering why the path was already open. Zelda say "We should act fast. I want it to be secure." and they both go deeper into the dungeon.
Link goes through the dungeon. Some puzzles, some enemys, some traps (as some kind of security mechanisms). At the end of the dungeon he reaches an altar where Zelda and the Sheikah are standing. Link hides immediately behind a pillar. Zelda gives the cog to the Shiekah and tells him to bring it to the Sheikah stronghold as it would be safe there and she has the feeling that something bad will happen soon. The Sheikah and Zelda leave.
Maybe some kind of boss fight could be added here either before the scence with the Sheikah and Zelda or afterwards (BUT not against Zelda or the Sheikah as I think it would be much better storywise if Link stay unrecognized). Afterwards a teleport field appears (like in the big dungeons the blue and red ones) and brings Link back to the entrance of the secret path/ next to the library. Link goes back to Ganon, talks to him.
And than it goes on like already in the plot (With a few additions)
"I see.. so the cog was taken from the castle to be protected by the royal family’s servants. The one, who was with Zelda, is one of them. They are called the Shadow Folk. The Sheikah,” The king says.
“After a war between my ancestors and the Hylians left my people exiled in the desert, the Sheikah were tasked with guarding the path back to Hyrule so we might never return. Their icy resolve to their duty was almost as crushing as the unforgiving heat of the desert. ” He presents Link with a key. “The Sheikah fortress, of which Zelda talked about, lies at the desert’s mouth, at the end of the Valley of Death. The valley is closed off, but you may be able to sneak in. This key is ceremonially given to the messenger to the Shadow Folk. I’m afraid it was unceremoniously taken from him. Now you are the new messenger. Be careful. ”
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One problem I see with that is from the wiki on the Shiekah:QuoteHe meets with the elders, however they obviously won't let Link anywhere near the cog since they know to protect it. They also think that there is no danger in Hyrule, since the Gerudo are still kept out.
If they don't think Hyrule is in danger, why would they take the cog? Is there something in that doc that contradicts this?
The Shiekah don't think that there is Hyrule is in danger, but take the cog as Zelda requests it. They might also think that Zelda's worries are unjustified.
