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General => Entertainment => Topic started by: FrozenFire on October 19, 2009, 10:04:57 am
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Yes, I know there's an old topic about The Hero of Time movie (Old topic: http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?topic=13195.0 (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?topic=13195.0))
But the last post was in 2007 and I didn't want to grave dig.
I'm posting this new topic about it because I thought some of you Zelda fans might not know that the movie has been released! Yep, the movie actually has been shown in theater in Atlanta, New York, somewhere in Germany, and also in Pasco (might have missed one).
There's much more info (and video clips!) at their official website:
http://www.theherooftime.com/ (http://www.theherooftime.com/)
I know the movie isn't going to be of professional quality, but heck, it's free and I'm a big Zelda fan, so I'm very excited to see it. XD
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It may be good for the budget, but I mean...it still looks pretty crappy :/
Still, best of luck to them I guess.
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It may be good for the budget, but I mean...it still looks pretty crappy :/
Still, best of luck to them I guess.
I'm inclined to agree... but I'm biased... I hate fanfics, and this is basically a fanfic + moving pictures depicting said fanfic.
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Is there a trailer or something? I can't find crap on that website.
Not that I care. It seems like there's a new Zelda "movie" every few months, and they all have one thing in common: they shouldn't have bothered.
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It may be good for the budget, but I mean...it still looks pretty crappy :/
Still, best of luck to them I guess.
I'm inclined to agree... but I'm biased... I hate fanfics, and this is basically a fanfic + moving pictures depicting said fanfic.
Same here. I don't necessarily mind fan fiction that captures the spirit of the source material, but 90% of it - including this - doesn't it.
Also, it doesn't help you for !@#$% as a writer.
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I've taken a look at the trailers on their site, but I must say that I'm not really warming up to this. Actually it leaves me really cold. Of what I have seen, I must say that it leaves much to be desired in the production department. The story, the sets, the characters and props are all directly from OOT. As a matter of fact I can almost say for certain this is OOT in movie format.
The trailers and music can't beat IGN's April fools joke, but I'm glad that one was left to be nothing but a trailer.
I have read once that Shigeru Miyamoto always intended Zelda to be much more than just a videogame. That people were busy with Zelda outside of playing video games. But fanfiction never really was to my liking. In the games Link has no lines, has no personality. The player actually has to become Link and define his personality. Even if he is set in the role of a hero. That is why you can also choose your own name to use. In fanfiction on paper and on the screen you are nothing but an observer. It is most likely that you are going to be disappointed, because the Link character never is how you have always imagined it. And you can't make a story where Link says nothing and let the reader/viewer fill in Link's part of the dialogues.
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Still waiting for a movie based on the Metroid series. I never cared for the series, but it could really be a good movie if handled well. Kind of Tomb Raider-ish. I have never seen a (fan) Zelda movie that did not make me cringe because of the too obvious low budget and crappieness of it. :-X
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Is there a trailer or something? I can't find crap on that website.
Here's the newest trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPTpjK88apc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPTpjK88apc)
I actually downloaded the trailer in high quality off of their website, and it makes it more more watchable (though I admit, there are points in the trailer that seem much less than professional). I'd give the link but it doesn't work anymore... hmm, k.
Anyway, I just want to see what this movie is going to be like. Who knows, it might be better than it looks. At least they got better looking people to play the characters than in the IGN trailer (younger, for sure).
And when it all comes down to it, after seeing all kinds of Zelda movie crap out there that other people have made, I have come to a conclusion that this is as good as we're gonna get for a Zelda film.
Sure it's not going to be pro, but heck, it should at least be entertaining. Plus a bunch of Zelda-crazed fans say they loved it in their "HoT updates" on the official website that I already posted in my first post (editing trick you say?... if you don't get it, nm)
So, I admit that the movie isn't anywhere near pro (duh), but there is something undeniably professional about this movie, and that is the music by George R. Powell. You can download it here:
http://www.theherooftime.com/epic-music/ (http://www.theherooftime.com/epic-music/)
You can hate the movie, but how the heck could you hate this amazing music?!
Anyway, I'm not just going to say the movie sucks without seeing it... maybe after seeing it, but I'm just really curious to see what these people can deal out. I'm at least going to give it a chance.
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You can all hate all you want, but you gotta give them props for actually finishing it.
And it doesn't look THAT bad, it's nowhere near the quality of a movie with a 60 million dollar budget, but who the hell would expect it to be?
My only nitpick about it would be that Link speaks. I would have much rather have had him mute. It'd add more mystery to the character/story, even if they had to explain his muteness as some medical condition or something lame, I don't care. It would have just felt more like a Zelda movie overall in my opinion.
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I feel like the special effects are way too much after watching the newest trailer. The problem with doing them in excess is that if they aren't done right, it REALLY hurts the movie. With care, they could have avoided using NEARLY as much CGI as they did. The skull and dodongo are particularly nauseating.
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Based on all the negativity there is from all you guys (seriously though, come on guys ::)), I'm not sure if anyone cares about this. BUT, for those of you that do want to see or own the best feature length Zelda movie there will ever be (no no no, Nintendo isn't going to make one) then I give you this information! Whoohaaa!
THEY HAVE FINALLY ANNOUNCED THE ONLINE AND DVD RELEASE DATES FOR THE HERO OF TIME MOVIE!!! Have a look see!
Hey everyone! Great seeing all you guys from out west at the screening! The theater told us that you all were one of the better crowds that they’ve had and it was a blast to host the event! Zelda fans rule! Pictures and video of the screening coming soon!
As we announced at the screening, we will be releasing the film through our official partnership with dailymotion.com on Monday December 14th! We are really excited about this! The film will be in High Quality, and in one piece!
Also, for those of you that can’t huddle around a computer with all your friends to watch the film, on December 21st we will be releasing a DVD file to download with instructions on a three step process to make your own DVD of the film! Free movie for everyone!!!
Even though the film is being released online, the screenings arent necessarily over. They’re getting pretty expensive for us to host, so if you would like to put together an event, contact us at info@theherooftime.com and we’d love to see how we could help. Thanks again for your support!
So online release is: Dec 14th, on dailymotion.com.
And DVD release is: Dec 21st, on the official HoT website(?).
Personally, I'm waiting for the DVD. ^_^
If you want a Zelda movie, you can bet that this is the best you'll get and it's free!
If you hate the very thought of a Zelda movie, then why the heck are you reading this?!
Unlike most of you, I'll save my criticism until after I've seen the whole movie.
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I'm still horribly confused how someone can make a movie about a character who has absolutely no personality <_<;;
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I'm still horribly confused how someone can make a movie about a character who has absolutely no personality <_<;;
I wouldn't say that Link has ABSOLUTELY NO personality. Very little, yes, but there is something there (i.e. facial expressions in later games, pauses in text when Link sorta talks but really doesn't, etc).
Also, the HoT Team did say (in one of their updates) that they felt Link was a little timid because he never talked in the games.
Besides that, I'm guessing they used something called "imagination." ^_^
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I'm still horribly confused how someone can make a movie about a character who has absolutely no personality <_<;;
I wouldn't say that Link has ABSOLUTELY NO personality. Very little, yes, but there is something there (i.e. facial expressions in later games, pauses in text when Link sorta talks but really doesn't, etc).
Also, the HoT Team did say (in one of their updates) that they felt Link was a little timid because he never talked in the games.
Besides that, I'm guessing they used something called "imagination." ^_^
Really?? Because when I watch the trailer 'imagination' and 'creative' are absolutely the last things that come to mind. Like I said earlier it is not more than a ripoff. OOT in movie format. The lack of creativity just oozes of the screen. Even the title is nowhere near creative. No I don't think those guys even have an imagination or they would have used it a lot better.
No, I said it earlier. Zelda is a difficult game series to put into a movie. But you seriously lack imagination and creativity, when you can't even come up with original stuff, no matter how flimsy it is.
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Niek, I have learned not to listen to a single word you say. ^_^ (please take no offense) XD
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Niek, I have learned not to listen to a single word you say. ^_^ (please take no offense) XD
He's right though, and perhaps you should set aside your desire for a Zelda film to be completed to examine this a bit further.
The trailer does not say "Zelda" at all other than the characters. It comes across as an entirely unoriginal, badly made fantasy flick. I know I say "badly made" when referring to an independent film, I should be more lenient, etc etc...but I know because I AM a student filmmaker that you can do far better than this on their budget. It all looks so plasticy and ridiculous.
Just because you can do something does not mean you should. I'll still watch the final film, more than likely, but like any other movie with a shitty looking trailer, my expectations are not too high.
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Niek, I have learned not to listen to a single word you say. ^_^ (please take no offense) XD
He's right though, and perhaps you should set aside your desire for a Zelda film to be completed to examine this a bit further.
The trailer does not say "Zelda" at all other than the characters. It comes across as an entirely unoriginal, badly made fantasy flick. I know I say "badly made" when referring to an independent film, I should be more lenient, etc etc...but I know because I AM a student filmmaker that you can do far better than this on their budget. It all looks so plasticy and ridiculous.
Just because you can do something does not mean you should. I'll still watch the final film, more than likely, but like any other movie with a shitty looking trailer, my expectations are not too high.
Or maybe you should examine it more. Their website answer many of these issues you bring especially if you peruse the forums.
They did not include "Zelda" in the title simply out of respect for the copyright that comes along with using that name. They had planned to, and have shown it in local theaters around the US and the theaters were more likely to allow them to show the movie without Zelda in the title.
As to the unoriginality this is by no means an exact copy of the storyline in OOT, yes it is loosely based on that storyline, but if you are gonna make a decent Zelda fan film why not use the best storyline that the creators have given.
I will reserve my opinion of the film until I see the whole thing on Dailymotion.com on the 14th, but by all means if you are going to judge the film now before you see it. At least do them the justice of reading the info on their site. It is obvious a lot of work has gone into this, and I will for one give it the chance it deserves. This is the attitude I try to approach all independent films with, and without it a good few of good films are missed, yes a lot of bad films are watched, but that is a meager sacrifice.
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I still don't get why people are so gay for fanfics...
This is a fanfic with moving pictures... :x
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They did not include "Zelda" in the title simply out of respect for the copyright that comes along with using that name.
Yeah I figured that, what I meant was that it doesn't even look like it captures the spirit of the material it draws from.
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As to the unoriginality this is by no means an exact copy of the storyline in OOT, yes it is loosely based on that storyline, but if you are gonna make a decent Zelda fan film why not use the best storyline that the creators have given.
Well OOT doesn't have the best story line of all the games, there are better ones. But I could have lived with it when they only based the story on OOT (although the time element is most likely taken out). But every scenery, prop and all that (even the music are remixed Zelda tunes) clearly taken from OOT.
For example the moment in OOT when I first left Kokiri Forest and headed to Castle Town. The same image was in the trailer. Or when I rode from Lake Hylia towards death mountain.
I will reserve my opinion of the film until I see the whole thing on Dailymotion.com on the 14th, but by all means if you are going to judge the film now before you see it. At least do them the justice of reading the info on their site. It is obvious a lot of work has gone into this, and I will for one give it the chance it deserves. This is the attitude I try to approach all independent films with, and without it a good few of good films are missed, yes a lot of bad films are watched, but that is a meager sacrifice.
I can see that there has been put much work in it. The CGI looks great, even the props are made with care. I am not accusing them to be lazy and not putting work in it. What I am saying is that they are not creative or imaginative.
Oh and make no mistake, I will watch the movie. Just to give them the chance to convince me it is anything but a movie copy of OOT. But the trailer doesn't give me much hope. There is no reason why I shouldn't watch it, because it is free and a movie only takes up about 2 hours of my time.
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Niek, I have learned not to listen to a single word you say. ^_^ (please take no offense) XD
Hey Niek, I just reread what I said and I wanted to apologize. What I said was rude, no matter which way you look at it. I haven't been having the best week and I guess it kinda showed there. Sorry. Just to be clear, I have nothing against you at all. ^_^
Anyway Niek, it just seems like you haven't really taken much of a look in to why they made the film the way they did, as Bludleef pointed out. But that's understandable, since you'd have to be watching all of their HoT updates and, unlike me, I doubt you've wanted to take the time to watch all of those.
Also, when I was referring to "imagination", I was wasn't talking about the movie in its entirety, but I was just referring to Link talking... but, yes, judging from the trailers and outtakes, there probably isn't a lot of breakthrough stuff in what Link says. Anyway, it's obvious that it reflects OoT pretty heavily.
Actually they specifically wanted to remake OoT as a movie. That was the whole idea in the first place. But obviously nobody wants to see a direct copy of the game put in to a movie (right?) so they attempted to make it their own thing while still keeping a lot of stuff from OoT, figuring that it would be the best way to make the most fans happy. I do not know if they succeeded in doing that just by watching the 3 trailers, but I guess I'll find out when I see the movie. XD
I still don't get why people are so gay for fanfics...
This is a fanfic with moving pictures... :x
Honestly, I'm not big on any fanfics, but this is a rare exception. I just think it would be cool to see somebody's interpretation of OoT in movie format, which is basically what this is. It'll probably only be a one time watch, but I at least think it'll be fun to see once.
Niek, I have learned not to listen to a single word you say. ^_^ (please take no offense) XD
He's right though, and perhaps you should set aside your desire for a Zelda film to be completed to examine this a bit further.
I'm probably coming across a little more excited about this than I really am.
I have just been checking up on the HoT site every now and then for a couple years, so it's cool to see that it's finally coming out.
I've enjoyed watching their HoT updates because they're kinda funny (Link killing to "Let the bodies hit the floor!" was my fav). Because of that, what I really want to see are the outtakes for the film. I also expect that some of the poorly executed drama in the movie will give me a few laughs as well. XD
I have examined it enough to know that it will be pretty entertaining in some form or another.
...I AM a student filmmaker that you can do far better than this on their budget. It all looks so plasticy and ridiculous.
Hey, cool that you're a student filmmaker. So is my brother and I've often helped him with his films (mainly musically and being the guy that moves lights around, etc).
I do know that this film sucks in comparison to most movies, probably even some other independent films (except that Indiana Jones one SUCKS! Very boring and why wouldn't the dude shoot him a couple more times instead of thinking that a 2 foot deep grave would hold a live man..? Stupid).
One thing though... they never said what their budget was... so... :huh: I'll just leave it at that. ;)
Just because you can do something does not mean you should. I'll still watch the final film, more than likely, but like any other movie with a shitty looking trailer, my expectations are not too high.
I agree with your statement here. The trailer looks pretty bad and the voice acting wasn't the best at all.
I'm not expecting to be blown away by an amazing movie, but I am expecting to have a few laughs and to possibly see a bit of good action.
If it makes any sense, my expectations are not too high for this, but I'm pretty excited to see it anyway, just because it's Zelda, it's free, and I can. ^_^
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Niek, I have learned not to listen to a single word you say. ^_^ (please take no offense) XD
Hey Niek, I just reread what I said and I wanted to apologize. What I said was rude, no matter which way you look at it. I haven't been having the best week and I guess it kinda showed there. Sorry. Just to be clear, I have nothing against you at all. ^_^
Don't worry. I have heard ruder stuff. And those weren't said to insult. So don't sweat about it. I have also said rude stuff with no intention to insult people.
Anyway Niek, it just seems like you haven't really taken much of a look in to why they made the film the way they did, as Bludleef pointed out. But that's understandable, since you'd have to be watching all of their HoT updates and, unlike me, I doubt you've wanted to take the time to watch all of those.
You are absolutely right. I don't have the time to read it all. Definitely, considering I'm dyslectic. So I have to go at trailers.
Actually they specifically wanted to remake OoT as a movie. That was the whole idea in the first place. But obviously nobody wants to see a direct copy of the game put in to a movie (right?) so they attempted to make it their own thing while still keeping a lot of stuff from OoT, figuring that it would be the best way to make the most fans happy. I do not know if they succeeded in doing that just by watching the 3 trailers, but I guess I'll find out when I see the movie. XD
If they really intend that, than they are plagiarizing. Even if they are not selling the movie for profit, they still put it on their Resumes. And as far as I have seen, this movie isn't approved by Nintendo. I hope for them, that Nintendo is nice enough not to sue their asses off.
Also I'm afraid that they have removed the four things that made OOT a great game. Well I know they removed two things.
- The long Length of the gameplay.
- The great dungeons
- Playing of the Ocarina
- The time traveling (if this is away than it isn't really "the Hero of Time" anymore isn't it)
Well, we will see .
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If they really intend that, than they are plagiarizing. Even if they are not selling the movie for profit, they still put it on their Resumes. And as far as I have seen, this movie isn't approved by Nintendo. I hope for them, that Nintendo is nice enough not to sue their asses off.
The irony of this statement being posted on this forum is worth 10 lulz.
I really doubt Nintendo gives a !@#$%, they probably know about it.
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Woo first post since it's release...
Also I felt it was too much of a LOTR wannabe with shitty story telling :x
While I still reserve the right to hate anything involving Link with blond hair, I'll ignore that issue and just move on to how this movie felt to me-
"A bunch of college kids playing around in the woods"
Dialog was about as good as reading a cereal box, and the acting reminded me of that time I tried taking a rage dump while reciting the national anthem.
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I just watched the movie...
Ok, 1/2 of the movie is absolutely unbearable; mostly being in the beginning. And I can't even begin to tell of all the reasons why.
There are about 3 actually good parts in the movie.
1. When Link gets his bow. LOL'd pretty hard.
2. I was surprised that the dragon actually looked better than I had previously imagined from seeing the crappy trailer. The whole part with the dragon was actually interesting to watch for the most part.
3. The fighting toward the end of the movie had some good gore. Chopped off a guys head. Great action there.
Besides that, omg, this was so bad. LOL!
My advice is, watch the part where Link gets his bow, then skip forward to the end to watch some violent fighting.
I really didn't expect this movie to be amazing or anything. However I did expect it to be entertaining, either in the fact that it was done so bad that it was funny or that it might have some good action or maybe a few lols, but really, I found it to be quite boring for the most part.
Don't get me wrong. Every once in a while there would be a beautifully done scene (or part of a scene) but it would soon be destroyed by what was to follow.
Definitely only a one time watch for me, probably won't be downloading the DVD.
If only they'd put in a blooper reel at the end. That was what I really wanted to see.
Honestly though, their HoT updates were more interesting than this. :(
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Yup, I spent the whole time watching with my frozen in the "what the hell?" look.
I found many of the dialogues and scenes in the beginning unnecessary and boring, there were a whole lot of "mood" setting pictures, no dialogue and just showing the scenery or circling around Link that went on for ridiculous amounts of time.
And then they skipped through the sages of water, forest & shadow(?) in, what, three minutes? It would have been far better if they'd skipped all that cosy kokiri-hyrule-death mountain beginning and made it better paced.
And what was the meaning of ganondorfs henchman with the weird hair? It cried LoTR: Two Towers, GrÃma Wormtongue.
complain, complain, complain...
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Best parts of the whole movie imo:
1ST PART:
Starts here 25:25
Which builds to the best part of the whole movie at 26:33ish
"Ohoho! You've got a bow!"
*duh duh duh duh!*
2ND PART:
77:43-80:24
(Link really isn't very courageous though...)
LAST PART:
100:45 = gore done right.
If anyone reading this still hasn't seen it and is still thinking about watching it. You won't miss anything important/of interest if you just watch those parts.
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LOL, I see, that word gets censored... ;p
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I'm watching it tomorrow after exams are over with two fellow nerds...hopefully we'll be able to sit through all two hours of it :/
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I have watched about 60 minutes and I'm still thinking, What the !@#$%?
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I will say that I enjoyed watching Link run from a Giant Octopus.
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I will say that I enjoyed watching Link run from a Giant Octopus.
That was just another wtf -moment.
But !@#$%. Fugg you Link. You got backstabbed by mere minion after beating crap out of Ganondorf. Fugg you.
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Ugh, daily motion shows the movie in a slide show manner. So I've only seen the first 3 minutes. But of what I have seen, the prologue seemed like some bible program from the EO.
Well I'll wait for the torrent and then just watch it with VLC.
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Just finished watching it and can say this: a sincere but inept effort.
High Points:
- Many of the locations were very well-chosen, save Hyrule Castle.
- The compositing, when it was good, was REALLY good, especially in the Death Mountain exterior shots.
- Talon gave the best performance in the entire film, which was actually rather good.
- The fight choreography was excellent throughout, even if the camera work wasn't always so good.
- Some of the characterizations were interesting, especially Malon.
- Some of the cinematography was surprisingly powerful.
Low Points:
- The dialogue. !@#$% terrible throughout.
- The compositing, when it was bad, was REALLY bad, especially with the 3D skull. UGH.
- The majority of the performances. Link wasn't as bad as he could have been actually.
- The Gorons. I would understand if they were going for a realistic adaptation to use "real looking" people, but it doesn't match the very fantastic vision of the Zelda world present in the rest of the film.
- The pacing. The beginning drags on too long, and the ending happens too fast.
- All in all, it simply doesn't feel like Zelda. It's too violent, too British, and too uninspired to have the ESSENCE of Zelda that's so badly missing here.
Overall, I'd give it a 3/10. It's entertaining, especially when they toss in references to the Zelda games, and it's a really good effort, but the final product just isn't good.
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Well I finished watching, and I agree, it was entertaining, but not something I would watch again.
I liked malon as an actor as well.
I really hated the whole death mountain thing, except for some background parts, but Dodongo/Volvagia or whatever the heck that was looked stupid. Saria really just stood out to me as just totally wrong, as links "foster" mother???. And she gets all dramatic when link leaves.
My favorite part was when the octopus chased link platform game style xD.
The rest of the bosses were just ugh... I'm really just rambling and throwing out thoughts here. It could have been much less cheesy. The dialogue was a piece of crap -_-
Some parts when they talked were medieval talk, and sometimes they talked like we do now, too much of a change there imo. Darunia was just... ugh too. The problem with basing, or even making a zelda movie, is that zelda's main areas are puzzles, the challenging feel of dungeons coupled with epic bosses. You can't capture that too well in movie form, which is probably why nintendo never did it in the first place. I say it was a good attempt, but so many things could, or should have been changed.