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Miles07:
Perhaps they think Hyrule is in no danger because they hold the cog, so nobody could get past them to grab it? Maybe the Gerudo King's source had bad/misleading information. (Maple?)

Max.:

--- Quote from: MG-Zero on August 31, 2015, 12:55:47 pm ---One problem I see with that is from the wiki on the Shiekah:


--- Quote ---He meets with the elders, however they obviously won't let Link anywhere near the cog since they know to protect it. They also think that there is no danger in Hyrule, since the Gerudo are still kept out.
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If they don't think Hyrule is in danger, why would they take the cog?  Is there something in that doc that contradicts this?

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Good catch. Couple ways to resolve that that. I can think of.

1. They only THINK there's no danger in Hyrule, obviously there is some, but they're part of the perpetuation of the aristocracy. We could make it so when Link gets to the Sheikah, they don't think moving the cog was necessary, but they did it because they were told to (by Zelda).

2. When Link gets back to the castle,  Ganon tells him the cog was moved long ago, and they don't go on their little scavenger hunt. But I feel like the weakness of this option is that Link goes back to the castle and sneaks in and... Nothing really HAPPENS, he just gets more exposition. Idea, maybe Link would need to steal a key to enter the valley of death, hidden somewhere in the castle. That scenario would go something like:

Link gets back from the Goron mines and finds the Gerudo King once again. The king compliments Link on his acquisition of the first three cogs, and informs him of his recent research in the Library's archives. It seems that long ago, the cog was sent to the Royal Family's servants, the Sheikah, for safe keeping. The Sheikah have long been the enemies of the king's people, the Gerudo, and are the instruments of their oppression. For hundreds of years, they've guarded the only pass from the desert to Hyrule, trapping the Gerudo in those dusty lands and fighting them to maintain Hyrule's hold over their welfare. But to enter the valley, they'll need to find they key to its gate. The Gerudo king suspects that it's kept in the castle's artifact room, perhaps Link can find a way into it through the dungeon, as the dungeon adjoins it. Once Link finds it, he can enter the valley of death and pursue the cog in the Sheikah fortress.

But avoid entering the desert at all costs. Its sands are unforgiving and deadly, and there is no way back into Hyrule but through the Sheikah. (He is in fact trying to keep Link away from the Gerudo as they don't have any idea he's posing as the true king and Ganon doesn't want Link figuring it out.)

Link must then stealth his way into the dungeon, bomb through a cell wall into the artifact room, and steal the gate key. With that, Link heads off toward the misty valley of death and the mysterious, warring people who protect the final cog.

4ndaKava:
I know that the last post here was long ago but this doesn't seem to be finalized yet so I want to give a comment on the ideas.


--- Quote ---If we stick to Ganon thinking the cog was with the Royal Family, we might as well add a dramatic kind of event when he goes back to get that one. Like he goes into the throne room and Zelda is giving the cog to a Sheikah, and she sees Link and calls the guards, he has to use agility/stealth to escape, then try to sneak into the Sheikah stronghold. Which, there, he gets caught and thrown out, meets the Hero's Shade, goes to the desert, etc.

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I like this idea the most, but I would change it a little bit:
 Link finds the other cogs and goes back to the castle to meet with Ganon. Ganon tells him that he gathered information from many books in the castle library and discovered that the last cog was actually inside of the castle. Link goes to find it, discover a secret path behind one of the bookshelf in the library (pushing a special book about the cogs or taking it out to activate the mechanism) -> leads to a small dungeon.
Two possibilities here:
1. Before he can enter Zelda and a Sheikah appear, Link hides very fast behind another bookshelf in the middle of the room, Zelda and the Shiekah are wondering why the path is already open but go in saying "We should act fast. I want it to be secure.".
2. Link enters the dungeon. Hears someone coming. Hides inside a barrel or jug. Zelda and the Sheikah enter the dungeon. They are wondering why the path was already open. Zelda say "We should act fast. I want it to be secure." and they both go deeper into the dungeon.
 Link goes through the dungeon. Some puzzles, some enemys, some traps (as some kind of security mechanisms). At the end of the dungeon he reaches an altar where Zelda and the Sheikah are standing. Link hides immediately behind a pillar. Zelda gives the cog to the Shiekah and tells him to bring it to the Sheikah stronghold as it would be safe there and she has the feeling that something bad will happen soon. The Sheikah and Zelda leave.
Maybe some kind of boss fight could be added here either before the scence with the Sheikah and Zelda or afterwards (BUT not against Zelda or the Sheikah as I think it would be much better storywise if Link stay unrecognized). Afterwards a teleport field appears (like in the big dungeons the blue and red ones) and brings Link back to the entrance of the secret path/ next to the library. Link goes back to Ganon, talks to him.

And than it goes on like already in the plot (With a few additions)
"I see.. so the cog was taken from the castle to be protected by the royal family’s servants. The one, who was with Zelda, is one of them. They are called the Shadow Folk. The Sheikah,” The king says.
“After a war between my ancestors and the Hylians left my people exiled in the desert, the Sheikah were tasked with guarding the path back to Hyrule so we might never return. Their icy resolve to their duty was almost as crushing as the unforgiving heat of the desert. ” He presents Link with a key. “The Sheikah fortress, of which Zelda talked about, lies at the desert’s mouth, at the end of the Valley of Death. The valley is closed off, but you may be able to sneak in. This key is ceremonially given to the messenger to the Shadow Folk. I’m afraid it was unceremoniously taken from him. Now you are the new messenger. Be careful. ”


--- Quote ---One problem I see with that is from the wiki on the Shiekah:


--- Quote ---He meets with the elders, however they obviously won't let Link anywhere near the cog since they know to protect it. They also think that there is no danger in Hyrule, since the Gerudo are still kept out.
--- End quote ---

If they don't think Hyrule is in danger, why would they take the cog?  Is there something in that doc that contradicts this?
--- End quote ---

The Shiekah don't think that there is Hyrule is in danger, but take the cog as Zelda requests it. They might also think that Zelda's worries are unjustified.

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