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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2006, 01:51:20 pm »
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Actually, I had the "Teach yourself" book, and it helped alot. Mind you, I already had some basic C++ experience, so that may have affected things...
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2006, 05:17:19 pm »
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Ive lend a book from a friend in school about c++..........its swedish
its like 1600 pages.......ive read 51 in one day......half hour............. :dance:
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2006, 05:34:21 pm »
Teach yourself is garbage, but then I like to be taught not told to type stuff in with no understandable explaining being done. It was made for the c programmer I think.
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2006, 07:51:26 pm »
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I was in the library today!!

and i found some c++(and HTML) books!!!

+can someone realise a zelda engine in c++?

even if its only movement.........but i want moving sprites......

and a question: how do i change the platform format??
example:if i make a game and then i want to play it on gb or gc or xbox,playstation.........wii?
then if the game was supposed to be on pc?
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2006, 08:38:28 pm »
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GB/GC/GBA/DS need to be compiled as a ROM/ISO, and that requires a lot of conversion of code.
Xbox 360 requires the as-yet unreleased Dev-Kit, which uses DirectX.
PS3 and Wii I'm unsure, but I know PS3 uses the Linux as a base OS.

And a Zelda-Engine in C++ using what exactly? What graphics library? DirectX? OpenGL? Allegro? YAGL? Irrlicht?
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2006, 09:04:48 pm »
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If you JUST started learning C/C++, there is NO way that you're going to be able to make a Zelda game, with or without an engine.

Start with small things, practice until you can make good programs that run fine that you created on your own.

THEN, when you have an Intermediate/Advanced level of knowledge with C/C++, you should be ready to start looking on the BASICS of programming games in C/C++.
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There's such a double standard about religion in the modern world. Catholics can gather, wear white robes, and say "In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti" and be considered normal.

But if my friends and I gather, wear black robes, and say  "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn", we're considered cultists.
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2006, 11:36:16 pm »
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see here's the thing about game engines in C++.  You need an API such as directX or opengl to create the visuals and sounds, C++ can't do that alone.  If I knew directX I probably would have attempted a zelda engine by now.
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2006, 11:50:49 pm »
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Oh god no, porting is an extremly complex subject and is definatly not for beginners. My advise to you is start simple and progress up wards, try a basic varient or if you must use C then start from the very beginning and learn up.

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GB/GC/GBA/DS need to be compiled as a ROM/ISO, and that requires a lot of conversion of code.
Xbox 360 requires the as-yet unreleased Dev-Kit, which uses DirectX.
PS3 and Wii I'm unsure, but I know PS3 uses the Linux as a base OS.

And a Zelda-Engine in C++ using what exactly? What graphics library? DirectX? OpenGL? Allegro? YAGL? Irrlicht?

Ds = ARM / THUMB machine code
Xbox360 = XNA (Its is released! At least the beta is, I have it.)
PS3 = Linux.
Wii = er, linux again I think.

Besides you wouldn't want to use any of those platforms anyway, the license fees and legal traps are huge and complex.
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2006, 12:14:57 am »
You've all forgoten he's doing this on a c64 so at best he has c.

Helios: I'd not donate to kill that ugly kitten. At least get one with normal eyes.
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« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2006, 12:18:49 am »
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Quote from: Jed on December 14, 2006, 12:14:57 am
You've all forgoten he's doing this on a c64 so at best he has c.
Actually I think he said earlier that its not the c64 he wants to learn c for.

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Helios: I'd not donate to kill that ugly kitten. At least get one with normal eyes.
XD, fair enough.
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2006, 06:29:59 pm »
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Thanks!

but how about to create a new platform?
i mean a new console with computer parts...
is that possible?

and i wanna learn everything in C and C++ and all...


and were could i buy books?
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« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2006, 06:36:25 pm »
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Quote from: zero koll on December 16, 2006, 06:29:59 pm
and were could i buy books?

Your local bookstore and library. Couldn't you figure that out yourself?
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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2006, 07:51:10 pm »
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Quote from: zero koll on December 16, 2006, 06:29:59 pm

but how about to create a new platform?
i mean a new console with computer parts...
is that possible?

With computer parts? You've re-invented the X-BOX :P. Anyway, if you make a new platform, please call it the M-Console and give me free development kits ;D! That was my dream console to invent myself :P.
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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2006, 09:26:22 pm »
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but how about to create a new platform?
i mean a new console with computer parts...
is that possible?
*sigh* Although I hate to be flamish, that is probably one of the stupidist questions ever. However if you want to be a lazy git and just use a pre-fab console that you can mod to your likings you may wish to check out - http://xgamestation.com/.
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2006, 10:49:41 pm »
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Quote from: zero koll on December 16, 2006, 06:29:59 pm
and were could i buy books?

Try.

www.blocket.se
se.pricerunner.com
www.bokia.se
www.tradera.se
www.google.se

If you don't find it now, it doesn't exsist in our country.
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2006, 05:27:48 pm »
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Thanks,swe man!!
wanna add me on msn?

oh.....and a question:
wy does games for other platforms need to be reprogrammed?(or "translated"...)
if i make my own..........how do i make a new operative syst?
with c++?
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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2006, 07:39:22 pm »
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Quote from: zero koll on December 17, 2006, 05:27:48 pm
Thanks,swe man!!
wanna add me on msn?

oh.....and a question:
wy does games for other platforms need to be reprogrammed?(or "translated"...)
if i make my own..........how do i make a new operative syst?
with c++?

Ok, I'm just going to tell you right here and now, before you go any further. Don't even think of it, stick to windows until you have at least a basic understanding of how programming works, and how it interacts with the computer.

The answer to that question is obvious to anyone with any remote knowledge of programming.

As for making your own operating system ... ROFLMAO, let me just put this in perspective, Windows Vista is 50 MILLION lines long! The highest line count that most commercial games engines get to is about 50,000. The game engine I am currently writing is over 50,000 and I find that on its own bloody hard to maintain.
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2006, 08:55:41 pm »
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don't even go near making an Operating System yet.  I may know C++, but hell windows programming is a !@#$%!!
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Re: i wanna learn C!
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2006, 12:02:46 am »
Hell, closest I came was a simply restrictive gui and that was like 10000 lines in itself.
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