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General => Boards => Archive => Other Discussion => Topic started by: Ryan on June 01, 2008, 07:29:13 pm
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http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2XPiqhN_Ns
Almost all smaller websites/services will disappear over time and multinationals who are used to using big budgets to brute force their content into every media outlet will finally be able to approach the internet in the same way.
This well-known illustration of why we need net neutrality turns out to be very close to the truth:
(http://ipower.ning.com/extensions/gfx/netneutrality.jpg)
What can we do?
Internet providers have realized that the only way to not lose massive amounts of customers over this is to make sure there are no alternatives, that's why all major Internet providers are currently making agreements and planning to switch simultaneously somewhere in the year 2012. This is currently all going on under very strict NDA's (Non-Disclosure Agreements) because the last thing they want is the masses speaking out against it.
We were able to uncover this information because we have been well-known net neutrality activists for longer than a year now and over time have we've gotten in contact with many high-profile industry insiders. We will continue our activism and the I Power website serves as a platform for joining forces, sharing ideas and spreading awareness.
It's our responsibility to spread the word, use any sort of political or media contacts you may know. The more awareness there is, the more impossible it'll be for Internet providers to make this switch. Let's make sure that by 2012, ISP's won't even dare think about doing anything that goes against the principles of net neutrality.
More info...
Net neutrality has been a much debated issue for several years now and there have been many lawsuits in cases where an Internet provider blocked access to a certain competitor's site or simply crippled download speeds on services that they felt were using up too much of their bandwidth. But this new information that has now been confirmed by inside sources from major ISP's and content providers gives us a far bleaker vision of what the future of Internet freedom will look like if we don't take action in every way we can.
Why is this happening? The entire media and marketing industry is losing its grip on the upcoming generations of Internet-minded consumers. Statistics show that traditional media is losing popularity as the Internet continues to grow drastically every year. And the Internet is a completely different place: consumers aren't passive any more and advertisements don't have the same psychological effect they normally have on television. Internet users are very active and focused: they only go to the sites and services they want, and with an infinite amount of alternatives, users simply switch to something else if one service becomes too commercialized with annoying advertisements.With this in mind, it's no surprise that the past 6 years the industry has secretly been planning a 'take-over' to secure the Internet as a purely commercial playground.
Spread The Word!
But there is hope... More and more people are becoming aware of the importance of net neutrality and now that we have uncovered what the industries have been plotting, it's not just about big corporations forming shady agreements, it's about what they will say to their users who will demand an explanation from their providers on what will happen to their access in 2012. As long as there are alternatives, we can pressure those providers who admit to being against net neutrality and favor those who take a stand and choose to give their users their freedom even after 2012. We can keep pushing for net neutrality laws and we can start spreading awareness on a massive scale to make sure that ISP's think twice before signing anything that'll go against the freedom that made the Internet into the important open medium that it is today.
It's our responsibility, spread the word and use any sort of political or media contacts you may know. Let's make sure that by 2012, ISP's won't even dare think about doing anything that goes against the principles of net neutrality.
For more information:
Mail the I Power team at ipower@movielol.org
For media inquiries or urgent issues:
Telephone: +32 (0) 496 93 90 44
Skype: reese015
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t89WwcsOj9U
Update:
Bell Canada and TELUS (formerly owned by Verizon) employees officially confirm that by 2012 ISP's all over the globe will reduce Internet access to a TV-like subscription model, only offering access to a small standard amount of commercial sites and require extra fees for every other site you visit. These 'other' sites would then lose all their exposure and eventually shut down, resulting in what could be seen as the end of the Internet.
Dylan Pattyn *, who is currently writing an article for Time Magazine on the issue, has official confirmation from sources within Bell Canada and is interviewing a marketing representative from TELUS who confirms the story and states that TELUS has already started blocking all websites that aren't in the subscription package for mobile Internet access. (http://www.telusmobility.com/on/wweb/wirelesswebsites.shtml) They could not confirm whether it would happen in 2012 because both stated it may actually happen sooner (as early as 2010). Interviews with these sources, more confirmation from other sources and more in-depth information on the issue is set to be published in Time Magazine soon.
What can we do?
The reason why we're releasing this information is because we believe we can stop it. More awareness means more mainstream media shedding light on it, more political interest and more pressure on the ISP's to keep the Internet an open free space. We started this social network as a platform for Internet activism where we can join forces, share ideas and organize any form of protest that may have an impact. If we want to make a difference in this, we have to join together and stand united as one powerful voice against it.
Join the movement. (http://ipower.ning.com/main/authorization/signUp?target=http%3A%2F%2Fipower.ning.com%2F)
Don't let the Internet evolve to this:
(http://ipower.ning.com/extensions/gfx/netneutrality.jpg)
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Ha, I am all for net neutrality but I doubt your motives for posting this. Judging by all I have seen I can say that is the same girl that said that she would do pretty much anything sexually to whom she saw as the greatest supporter of net neutrality. I wonder if you want some, lol. Meh, but yeah, by packaging content, you pretty much destroy the chances for start-ups to make it; and more and more categories are becoming obsolete as websites offer more as they expand.
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This will never happen. People WILL get pissed off that they can't start their own site, like small buisnesses, companies, and the many people who profit off of their websites. If this happens, all hell will break loose.
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Well if its ISPs issuing this block. Cant you just set up your own ISP company as a solution?
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Well if its ISPs issuing this block. Cant you just set up your own ISP company as a solution?
I can't see that happening, but I think that BBS systems will arise from this... if it ever happened.
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Well if its ISPs issuing this block. Cant you just set up your own ISP company as a solution?
That's what they suggest.
Which is what I want to do.
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This is when pirate internet rises up. If this does happen, people will start an OpenISP to counter this.
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This is the stupidest thing ever. People have said years ago the internet would end but it didn't. Or was that something else? Anyway, I doubt anything would happen to it and if it did, then yeah, all hell will break loose.
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Haha, I can see a get rich quick scheme here. In 4 years, when these dumb asses take over the "internet", you just start your own ISP with access to the full internet instead of these 2000 sites. Everybody switches, all major ISPs fail, ???, profit. : D
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good riddance.
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I thought this would have to do with the Aztec calander or something..."In 2012, the internet ends! I swear!"
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Heh, internet conspiracy theories :)
I like this issue, it gives us a break from all the "Neil Armstrong didn't go to the moon"/"Bush was responsible for 9-11"/"JFK was murdered by the CIA" crap ;)
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Okay guys, let's agree on this. If this crap does happen, we will all help to support an OpenISP type deal. I'd do anything to keep my good old internet. That, or you can help to control the riots that break out, which will make it illegal to have internet at all. D:
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Ha, I am all for net neutrality but I doubt your motives for posting this. Judging by all I have seen I can say that is the same girl that said that she would do pretty much anything sexually to whom she saw as the greatest supporter of net neutrality. I wonder if you want some, lol. Meh, but yeah, by packaging content, you pretty much destroy the chances for start-ups to make it; and more and more categories are becoming obsolete as websites offer more as they expand.
You gotta be 18 Ryan then she will blow you.
Doubting this will happen as long as Google is around, they will probably just start giving out free internet
TiSP ftw!
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Ha, I am all for net neutrality but I doubt your motives for posting this. Judging by all I have seen I can say that is the same girl that said that she would do pretty much anything sexually to whom she saw as the greatest supporter of net neutrality. I wonder if you want some, lol. Meh, but yeah, by packaging content, you pretty much destroy the chances for start-ups to make it; and more and more categories are becoming obsolete as websites offer more as they expand.
You gotta be 18 Ryan then she will blow you.
Doubting this will happen as long as Google is around, they will probably just start giving out free internet
TiSP ftw!
I don't want to be part of that virgin movement !@#$%.
I don't even think it's real.
So no. I am not doing this for a damn BJ.
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Ha, I am all for net neutrality but I doubt your motives for posting this. Judging by all I have seen I can say that is the same girl that said that she would do pretty much anything sexually to whom she saw as the greatest supporter of net neutrality. I wonder if you want some, lol. Meh, but yeah, by packaging content, you pretty much destroy the chances for start-ups to make it; and more and more categories are becoming obsolete as websites offer more as they expand.
You gotta be 18 Ryan then she will blow you.
Doubting this will happen as long as Google is around, they will probably just start giving out free internet
TiSP ftw!
I don't want to be part of that virgin movement !@#$%.
I don't even think it's real.
So no. I am not doing this for a damn BJ.
Well if you really believe in the cause make a video you have a fan base right, doesn't matter if its not huge you have viewers so tell them about this
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Okay guys, let's agree on this. If this crap does happen, we will all help to support an OpenISP type deal. I'd do anything to keep my good old internet. That, or you can help to control the riots that break out, which will make it illegal to have internet at all. D:
This.
I'd hate to only have access to the icky websites big monopolistic companies want you to see. I'd hate not being able to share the games I make with others (although in the not-too-near future, I'd probably share them for a profit). I'd... I'd hate not being to go to The Spriter's Resource! >:( That, a VGMusic.com and HelpTheWretched's Zelda sounds. Those are like my number one resource sites... Afdack!
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I was kind of shocked to see this topic, I had no idea what net neutrality was or anything.
So if it's taken away then I doubt zfgc will have a future. But yes, as long as google is around I think we should be safe, see what google itself has to say: http://www.google.com/help/netneutrality.html (http://www.google.com/help/netneutrality.html)
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I think taking down the internet entirely would be more likely
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This is bull !@#$% !@#$%!
This aint hapening anytime soon .
This is like trying to limit what people you can call on your phone.
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!@#$% right?
!@#$% NO!
NEW UPDATE!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t89WwcsOj9U
Update: Bell Canada and TELUS (formerly owned by Verizon) employees officially confirm that by 2012 ISP's all over the globe will reduce Internet access to a TV-like subscription model, only offering access to a small standard amount of commercial sites and require extra fees for every other site you visit. These 'other' sites would then lose all their exposure and eventually shut down, resulting in what could be seen as the end of the Internet.
Dylan Pattyn *, who is currently writing an article for Time Magazine on the issue, has official confirmation from sources within Bell Canada and is interviewing a marketing representative from TELUS who confirms the story and states that (link)TELUS has already started blocking all websites that aren't in the subscription package for mobile Internet access. (http://www.telusmobility.com/on/wweb/wirelesswebsites.shtml)(/link) They could not confirm whether it would happen in 2012 because both stated it may actually happen sooner (as early as 2010). Interviews with these sources, more confirmation from other sources and more in-depth information on the issue is set to be published in Time Magazine soon.
What can we do?
The reason why we're releasing this information is because we believe we can stop it. More awareness means more mainstream media shedding light on it, more political interest and more pressure on the ISP's to keep the Internet an open free space. We started this social network as a platform for Internet activism where we can join forces, share ideas and organize any form of protest that may have an impact. If we want to make a difference in this, we have to join together and stand united as one powerful voice against it.
Join the movement. (http://ipower.ning.com/main/authorization/signUp?target=http%3A%2F%2Fipower.ning.com%2F)
Don't let the Internet evolve to this:
(http://ipower.ning.com/extensions/gfx/netneutrality.jpg)
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!@#$% right?
!@#$% NO!
NEW UPDATE!!!
Update: Bell Canada and TELUS (formerly owned by Verizon) employees officially confirm that by 2012 ISP's all over the globe will reduce Internet access to a TV-like subscription model, only offering access to a small standard amount of commercial sites and require extra fees for every other site you visit. These 'other' sites would then lose all their exposure and eventually shut down, resulting in what could be seen as the end of the Internet.
Dylan Pattyn *, who is currently writing an article for Time Magazine on the issue, has official confirmation from sources within Bell Canada and is interviewing a marketing representative from TELUS who confirms the story and states that (link)TELUS has already started blocking all websites that aren't in the subscription package for mobile Internet access. (http://www.telusmobility.com/on/wweb/wirelesswebsites.shtml)(/link) They could not confirm whether it would happen in 2012 because both stated it may actually happen sooner (as early as 2010). Interviews with these sources, more confirmation from other sources and more in-depth information on the issue is set to be published in Time Magazine soon.
What can we do?
The reason why we're releasing this information is because we believe we can stop it. More awareness means more mainstream media shedding light on it, more political interest and more pressure on the ISP's to keep the Internet an open free space. We started this social network as a platform for Internet activism where we can join forces, share ideas and organize any form of protest that may have an impact. If we want to make a difference in this, we have to join together and stand united as one powerful voice against it.
Join the movement. (http://ipower.ning.com/main/authorization/signUp?target=http%3A%2F%2Fipower.ning.com%2F)
Don't let the Internet evolve to this:
(http://ipower.ning.com/extensions/gfx/netneutrality.jpg)
This looks bad. I think this thing might actually happen now.
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Oh and if you haven't realised yet.
You will have to pay for what is right now FREE porn websites.
That's right.
No more porn. >_<
Oh and video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t89WwcsOj9U
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I feel like saying that I really do not care what happens in Canada, if cakefarts gets elected this could be avoided in the United States, and at least in my case I have seen so much pornography in the span of a few years to the point where it is all boring and repetitive it loses its value. I am actually kind of ashamed of myself for liking such smut. I could better occupy my time by reading books on philosophy or physics.
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Another update? Confirmred!?
Damn $#!% greed!
First the sky-rocketing prices of fuel, now this!?
Seriously, if this happens for real...what the heck am I meant to do about my music software? Purchasing new plug-ins and such, so much for wanting my own website to put my original songs on.
What about band websites? Game websites? Game companies? Small Businesses? Far too many websites are going to suffer for this. So if this is going into time magazine, hopefully it'll spread the word.
Anyway I'm glad you put this up Ryan, otherwise I would have never of heard about this threat.
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This is bull !@#$% !@#$%!
This aint hapening anytime soon .
This is like trying to limit what people you can call on your phone.
My thoughts exactly
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hmmm If you ask me most of the internet services will include this, meaning that you will not feel you are paying much, but if it is not like how I think then it sucks, and yes it will affect many small sites but again probably in the lowest package it will include many of the small sites, like this one for example, I have been doing some research on how it will affect Mexico and there is really that much to talk about, my only guess is that the internet services will include certain webpage depending in how much you normally pay, but again I really doubt it will affect that much people will always find a way to stop this, again I find it wrong w hat they are doing and I hope this is not allowed, since Internet is the only way to express yourself with the world.
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I feel like saying that I really do not care what happens in Canada.
It's not just Canada. It's worldwide.
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I feel like saying that I really do not care what happens in Canada.
It's not just Canada. It's worldwide.
Well, It will start in USA, and it will expand depending if it works or not.
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"Speculation"
This whole thing is just because Warner decided to have an internet service that charges for extra bandwidth usage beyond a specified limit. Same speculation that says RFID will take over the world. Same speculation that says global cooling will cause a new ice age.
Sorry, it's propaganda to support a flawed movement.
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"Speculation"
This whole thing is just because Warner decided to have an internet service that charges for extra bandwidth usage beyond a specified limit. Same speculation that says RFID will take over the world. Same speculation that says global cooling will cause a new ice age.
Sorry, it's propaganda to support a flawed movement.
Agreed. Not to mention the anti-trust issues associated with it.
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Get this if we threaten to limit internet, we can charge double what users are already paying. AND THEY WON'T CARE!!!
Seems like thats whats going on =/
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I think her boobs are of more importance.
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I think her boobs are of more importance.
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I think her boobs are of more importance.
I agree, but you need the internet to see all the boobs you want.
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<sarcasm>I personally think this is an excellent idea!</sarcasm>
I mean think about all the negative effects it would have on the GLOBAL economy, the nation's education, the media industry, and pretty much every aspect of life in our current generation. People would have to be complete idiots to think that this is a good idea. I'm all for limiting the internet; it's called security features built in most modern day browsers to protect our computers from malicious websites. I just hope the people who ultimately decide the outcome of the internet realize how important of a tool it is for everybody.
Personally I am not too worried about this happening though. I mean who's going to stop someone from opening up a new internet service provider that offers access to the entire internet for a cheaper price than the competitors. The government? That will be the day I leave the United States for somewhere that actually still has common sense.
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This whole idea is idiotic.
There would be a huge class-action lawsuit from the millions of webmasters around the globe that are pissed that nobody can see their sites. There is no way this would happen.
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What about the number of pissed off internet users? I know without small websites, I wouldn't care to keep using the internet, that and the fact that there would be no way of starting my own personal website. Even if this gets passed, too many companies would suffer, crippling the global economy, and thus causing all sorts of chaos around the world.
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This well-known illustration of why we need net neutrality turns out to be very close to the truth:
(http://ipower.ning.com/extensions/gfx/netneutrality.jpg)
Fake if you ask me. I mean, for the $49 deal you get Google, but what for? It's not like there are gonna be any sites for you to search for, which makes Google = pointless, pretty much.
Also, I'm just gonna stay idle until something like this happens, if it does. There's nothing to do now if you ask me. But if they succeed on doing this, that's when we march the streets and boycott their asses.