To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8!

Moon_child	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #120 on: October 24, 2008, 09:46:00 am »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 6206	Quote from: Kaede on October 24, 2008, 09:37:30 am Quote from: Hyrule_boy on October 24, 2008, 09:35:51 am Wow they are still making problems of gay marriage? Can't they just grow up and let 2 man or 2 women just marry if they want to? If that makes them happy why trying to take away that privilege? Many people dont think it's as simple as that, H_B. Mostly because they are religious zealots. Who say things like "No because the bible says this and this". therefore it's wrong! Because the bible is always right. >_> Logged
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Darunia	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #121 on: October 24, 2008, 09:47:37 am »
Fight the Power Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1245	Quote from: Hyrule_boy on October 24, 2008, 09:46:00 am Mostly because they are religious zealots. Who say things like "No because the bible says this and this". therefore it's wrong! Because the bible is always right. >_> You're a bit close-minded. $:-\$ Logged
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Moon_child	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #122 on: October 24, 2008, 09:50:41 am »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 6206	Quote from: Darunia on October 24, 2008, 09:47:37 am Quote from: Hyrule_boy on October 24, 2008, 09:46:00 am Mostly because they are religious zealots. Who say things like "No because the bible says this and this". therefore it's wrong! Because the bible is always right. >_> You're a bit close-minded. $:-\$ No people that are against gay marriage are close minded. Logged
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« Reply #123 on: October 24, 2008, 10:00:18 am »

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Quote from: Hyrule_boy on October 24, 2008, 09:50:41 am

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Mostly because they are religious zealots. Who say things like "No because the bible says this and this". therefore it's wrong! Because the bible is always right. >_>

You're a bit close-minded. $:-\$
No people that are against gay marriage are close minded.

No, H_B, have you even read most of the topic? Just because somebody's Christian doesnt mean they pledge their life and soul to the book.

Most of the previous posts give the reasons why people are against homosexuals marrying, and it's a lot more than just "the Bible says so".

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Pedlya Pederp	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #124 on: October 24, 2008, 11:24:18 am »
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Porkchop	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #125 on: October 24, 2008, 04:15:13 pm »
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Moon_child	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #126 on: October 24, 2008, 04:31:43 pm »
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Dantztron 3030 Mammy's Favorite Storyteller!	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #127 on: October 24, 2008, 04:36:19 pm »
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Walnut	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #128 on: October 24, 2008, 04:47:48 pm »
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Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8!

« Reply #129 on: October 24, 2008, 04:55:00 pm »

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Also Zealotism has nothing to do with people thinking this is right or wrong.

Look at me; I'm a Christian; but I'm not ill-informed as to what "marriage" is. Marriage is a Hebraism for having sex. Biblically, it means to !@#$%. Laying your skirt over someone (bedsheet). Has nothing to do with the civil ceremony.

So why is not wanting a civil ceremony "zealotism"? I think you're a dipshit for thinking that. Has nothing to do with the other. Many people have their own opinions and views on this that have absolutely nothing to do with religion.

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EDGE	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #130 on: October 24, 2008, 05:10:08 pm »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 640	I'm not against anything, we all think different and I understand that. If they are homosexual(or however you want to call it) and they love each other, I don't see why they should be bother with a ~~stupid~~ law like this. My opinion about marriage:I'm pretty sure that signing a paper won't increase or decrease the love you have/feel for the other person... Logged
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Darunia	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #131 on: October 24, 2008, 07:25:50 pm »
Fight the Power Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1245	Quote from: EDGE on October 24, 2008, 05:10:08 pm I'm pretty sure that signing a paper won't increase or decrease the love you have/feel for the other person... You didn't get the point. They just want to be like any other couple. Logged
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DJvenom super-sage	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #132 on: October 24, 2008, 07:33:34 pm »
Colbydude was here. Reputation: +7/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 2898	Quote from: EDGE on October 24, 2008, 05:10:08 pm I'm not against anything, we all think different and I understand that. If they are homosexual(or however you want to call it) and they love each other, I don't see why they should be bother with a ~~stupid~~ law like this. My opinion about marriage:I'm pretty sure that signing a paper won't increase or decrease the love you have/feel for the other person... Quoted for mother-!@#$% truth! High-five! Logged
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Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8!

« Reply #133 on: October 24, 2008, 07:39:54 pm »

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Quote from: Darunia on October 24, 2008, 07:25:50 pm

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I'm pretty sure that signing a paper won't increase or decrease the love you have/feel for the other person...

You didn't get the point. They just want to be like any other couple.

And that goes back to MY point; they live a lifestyle that is not accepted by people as a whole, and thats something they have to accept right now. A piece of paper will not make people see them any differently then they do now. It just doesn't work that way.

Wanting to be accepted is one thing; but having the delusion of grandeur that everyone will accept them once its legal is absurd. They don't care about legally getting married at all. They can still do what they're doing either way.

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Darunia	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #134 on: October 24, 2008, 07:45:30 pm »
Fight the Power Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1245	Quote from: Mamoruanime on October 24, 2008, 07:39:54 pm Quote from: Darunia on October 24, 2008, 07:25:50 pm Quote from: EDGE on October 24, 2008, 05:10:08 pm I'm pretty sure that signing a paper won't increase or decrease the love you have/feel for the other person... You didn't get the point. They just want to be like any other couple. And that goes back to MY point; they live a lifestyle that is not accepted by people as a whole, and thats something they have to accept right now. A piece of paper will not make people see them any differently then they do now. It just doesn't work that way. Wanting to be accepted is one thing; but having the delusion of grandeur that everyone will accept them once its legal is absurd. They don't care about legally getting married at all. They can still do what they're doing either way. That's exactly what I've been ranting about. Logged
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Kaede

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« Reply #135 on: October 24, 2008, 08:00:22 pm »

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It's not just "a piece of paper".

Being married or having a civil partnership means that you are allowed to invest in things together. It means that you become next of kin to your partner. It means that if your partner dies, you at least inherit some of what they left behind. It means that there is less chance of a homosexual being driven out of his home by his dead partner's family, even though he's lived there a long time.

All the reasons why most people who aren't religious actually do get married, because of all the legalities of it.
Homosexuals dont want to be married just so they can be like everyone else.

If marriage was just about religion, then I would say "who cares" but it's not just religious.

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Mamoruanime @Mamoruanime	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #136 on: October 24, 2008, 08:01:44 pm »
^Not actually me. Reputation: +9/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 9786	Yeah but you can also use your will to assign assets to your partner when you die; it's easy peasy. It's all just a contract. That piece of paper is just a few contracts in one. Logged

Kaede

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« Reply #137 on: October 24, 2008, 08:04:30 pm »

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A marriage, by definition, bestows rights and obligations on the married parties, and sometimes on relatives as well, being the sole mechanism for the creation of affinal ties (in-laws). These may include:

giving a husband/wife or his/her family control over a spouse’s sexual services, labor, and property.
giving a husband/wife responsibility for a spouse’s debts.
giving a husband/wife visitation rights when his/her spouse is incarcerated or hospitalized.
giving a husband/wife control over his/her spouse’s affairs when the spouse is incapacitated.
establishing the second legal guardian of a parent’s child.
establishing a joint fund of property for the benefit of children.
establishing a relationship between the families of the spouses.

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Kyubi GET ON THE BALL!	Re: To all Californians...vote NO on prop 8! « Reply #138 on: October 24, 2008, 08:15:49 pm »
:3 Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 2485	Quote from: Kaede on October 23, 2008, 07:02:09 pm Boys and their big egos What the hell are you on about? Egos aren't even relevant. If someone said all your posts were nothing but arsey !@#$% you'd be offended, oh wait I forgot you have no ego or feelings whatsoever. Quote from: Swoftu on October 23, 2008, 07:16:00 pm Quote from: Kaede on October 23, 2008, 07:02:09 pm Boys and their big egos What in hell? GIRLS AND THEIR WORTHLESS POSTS lol, owned. Regardless, I think, as has been said before, allowing gay marriage is not only an outright bastardization of the sanctity of marriage- a sacred, holy, religious ritual, (applies to all religions, so you're basically offending the vast majority of the population) but it is also pointless when we have reached the fair compromise of civil partnership. !@#$% minority groups, whatever we do, they'll never be satisfied... OLO I ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE THIS GIVES ME SPECIAL TREATMENT Come on, marriage shouldn't even have anything to do with gay people, since most of the ones out of the closet aren't even religious anyway. Logged
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Kaede

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« Reply #139 on: October 24, 2008, 08:21:46 pm »

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Quote from: Kyubi on October 24, 2008, 08:15:49 pm

Quote from: Kaede on October 23, 2008, 07:02:09 pm
Boys and their big egos
What the hell are you on about? Egos aren't even relevant. If someone said all your posts were nothing but arsey !@#$% you'd be offended, oh wait I forgot you have no ego or feelings whatsoever.

Quote from: Swoftu on October 23, 2008, 07:16:00 pm
Quote from: Kaede on October 23, 2008, 07:02:09 pm
Boys and their big egos

What in hell?

GIRLS AND THEIR WORTHLESS POSTS

lol, owned.

gtfo my post, silly kyubi!

Quote from: Kyubi on October 24, 2008, 08:15:49 pm

Regardless, I think, as has been said before, allowing gay marriage is not only an outright bastardization of the sanctity of marriage- a sacred, holy, religious ritual, (applies to all religions, so you're basically offending the vast majority of the population) but it is also pointless when we have reached the fair compromise of civil partnership. !@#$% minority groups, whatever we do, they'll never be satisfied...

OLO I ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE THIS GIVES ME SPECIAL TREATMENT

Come on, marriage shouldn't even have anything to do with gay people, since most of the ones out of the closet aren't even religious anyway.

You are mistaken.
In the UK we call it Civil Partnership. In the USA I think they just call it marriage. (as civil partnership and marriage are basically the same thing, just CP is minus the religious aspect) It's not like the homosexuals in California already have CP and now want marriage. Without marriage they wont have anything to legally bind themselves to their partners.

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