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Title: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: Kren on May 06, 2009, 05:05:14 am
Well, it is a simple question and I will go to the point, why they got banned?

EDIT: I hope that you (4sword) don't give a stupid long answer D:, I don't have much time to read it all.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: 4Sword on May 06, 2009, 05:14:01 am
That is a fair question.

gm112:
There were many absolute instances where he trolled. On more than one instance he called Shefali "Shefag", he told me to either go suck or eat a DICK, he was posting topics in reaction to staff action that ignored staff warnings and further trolled staff members, and he had been previously put on post moderation and had received verbal warnings for his behavior (if none of those "severities" worked, there was nothing left to do but ban).

walnut100:
He was intentionally trolling the staff to prove a point and acted in a manner which exacerbated the negative actions of other problem users and there were instances where he had spammed. He had also received previous warnings for either some trolling or spam.

Porkchop:
He was previously let off of a permanent ban while there was talk of "Apathy" here. However, since then there have been instances where he has spammed and flamed users.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: Kren on May 06, 2009, 05:15:14 am
okay, new question, what post of Wally, gm112 and porkchop made you ban them?
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: Vash on May 06, 2009, 05:18:13 am
Just wondering, aside from appeasing Wally, Porkchop and gm and making this situation bigger than it really is. Why does it actually matter, and why does 4sword need to explain himself to you at all?

Obviously there was something going on, the said banned users were doing something wrong, as they are banned. Why does it matter passed that?
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: 4Sword on May 06, 2009, 05:21:14 am
That question cannot be answered strictly because there are only rare instances where you can ban someone for one post: this is when a user clearly posts pornography or in some instances of our past posts links to ROMs, Warez, etc.

The actions in recent topics show some of the behavior that they were banned for, but yeah, posting every post of theirs which received a warning or demonstrated intentional negative behavior would take a while.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: Vash on May 06, 2009, 05:24:53 am
Well, it is a simple question and I will go to the point, why they got banned?

EDIT: I hope that you (4sword) don't give a stupid long answer D:, I don't have much time to read it all.

Note the bold text, this is why they're banned.. This is also why you shouldn't be here, it sums it the !@#$% up. Time to stop being a !@#$% suck guys, it's not that hard. 

*shakes his head*
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: Kren on May 06, 2009, 05:26:56 am
Just wondering, aside from appeasing Wally, Porkchop and gm and making this situation bigger than it really is. Why does it actually matter, and why does 4sword need to explain himself to you at all?

Obviously there was something going on, the said banned users were doing something wrong, as they are banned. Why does it matter passed that?
Well, I want to know why gm112 got banned, since he is my friend, I didn't required 4sword to answer my question himself, the only reason why I mention him is due to the fact that he was the only Admin online at the time, there was no mod >_>, I am not trying to make by any instance this situacion bigger if you though that then it is my mistake by not clarifying myself, I should have kept this via pm.

That question cannot be answered strictly because there are only rare instances where you can ban someone for one post: this is when a user clearly posts pornography or in some instances of our past posts links to ROMs, Warez, etc.

The actions in recent topics show some of the behavior that they were banned for, but yeah, posting every post of theirs which received a warning or demonstrated intentional negative behavior would take a while.
ah ok ok, well, I though It was just one post, hmm I can now understand I just saw the psot made by gm112, Wally, and Porkchop. thanks for the help.

EDIT: Vash, yeah I said it in a wrong way I admit it, but I feel sick, my stomach hurts alot and I have head pain, and I just want a fast answer, >_>, I am going to sleep now since I got my answer. If you beleive I don't deserve to be here simply report it, and I will get my warn or ban.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: 4Sword on May 06, 2009, 05:40:57 am
I should also say, thank you for creating a civil and appropriate topic in Feedback to address your concern over the situation. If you have any further questions feel free to bring them up in Feedback or if you want I tend to respond to PMs quickly too. And of course you are welcome on this forum.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: FISSURE on May 06, 2009, 08:25:50 am
:(

Nutmeg, porkchop, and gm were cool users, they will be missed.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: Jeod on May 06, 2009, 12:42:22 pm
(http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/attachments/f2/22971d1205538146-making-nice-forum-drama.jpeg)

Irony here it that I wasn't a part of this. Usually I'm the one stirring things up.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: DJvenom on May 06, 2009, 01:19:00 pm
(http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/attachments/f2/22971d1205538146-making-nice-forum-drama.jpeg)

Irony here it that I wasn't a part of this. Usually I'm the one stirring things up.
Where'd you dig up that lame excuse for a failed attempt at a funny picture relevant to current events?
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: Starforsaken101 on May 06, 2009, 01:54:55 pm
(http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/attachments/f2/22971d1205538146-making-nice-forum-drama.jpeg)

Irony here it that I wasn't a part of this. Usually I'm the one stirring things up.
Where'd you dig up that lame excuse for a failed attempt at a funny picture relevant to current events?

He was just trying to lighten up the mood, and admitting that he usually starts the dramz on this forum :P (don't worry Jeod, I'm just kidding). I must say, now that they're gone, I can breathe again without wanting to rage half the time.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: Jeod on May 06, 2009, 02:38:35 pm
In my perspective of thinbgs, most of what 4Sword did was justified. The trio just picked a bad time to do what they did, since 4Sword is stressed enough with finals.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: FISSURE on May 06, 2009, 04:39:03 pm
(http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/attachments/f2/22971d1205538146-making-nice-forum-drama.jpeg)

Irony here it that I wasn't a part of this. Usually I'm the one stirring things up.
Where'd you dig up that lame excuse for a failed attempt at a funny picture relevant to current events?

He was just trying to lighten up the mood, and admitting that he usually starts the dramz on this forum :P (don't worry Jeod, I'm just kidding). I must say, now that they're gone, I can breathe again without wanting to rage half the time.

Funny enough, when nutmeg, porkchop, or gm post a picture like that, people get angry and whine. But when someone else does it, they're "lightening" the mood

funny how that works.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: शेफाली on May 06, 2009, 05:27:51 pm
Rest assured, FISSURE, if Jeod was breaking any rules he would have gotten warned.  In this case, his stupid annoying picture was somewhat related to the topic.  (not flaming, I just don't like the pic he posted)
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: 4Sword on May 06, 2009, 05:46:54 pm
Here are some further thoughts on the incident (the reason I post them like this is it might make it easier to read).

[spoiler=Rethinking of My Actions Part I]I thought about the events for a bit while I was sleeping and I still arrived at the conclusion that the action was justified. One of the two posts before mine in the Capcom topic could have been made with the opinion that Capcom should stop making Resident Evil games and focus on something else. That is a valid opinion. The post after that was kind of conjecture about how the same thing has happened to the Megaman series. My post that followed that was stated that while series tend to get bad over time, the topic should stay about Resident Evil then I discussed generalities about the production of the later games in its series.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Rethinking of My Actions Part II]One might think that my saying the future posts should get back on topic was a little hasty or unnecessary for me to say. Well there had been a past issue with Theforeshadower and Porkchop over Resident Evil topics and I wanted to avoid a scenario where the topic devolved into one where Resident Evil was just made fun of. I deleted the posts that just mentioned I could have said "get back on topic" because they weren't about the topic at all. There have been instances previously where the staff will do something and they'll either get chided for it or the message will just be ignored.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=The Negative Riot Part I]The main part of the incident though was the overreaction and inappropriate handling of concern. If your post is deleted, you can ask a staff member or possibly ask in Feedback, but posting it again is not the answer if you knew a staff member deleted it and getting another user to come in and just yell "power abuse, (expletive) (staff member)" doesn't help. And then continuing to post just to prove a point to that staff member regardless of the topic. Or loading messages with mostly irrelevant non-sense or attacks and then some content, having your post deleted, and getting mad about that; had the post been edited there would have been the same outrage.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=The Negative Riot Part II]Then creating more topics to just spew the outrage laced with more possible attacks. What should I have done, asked them to stop nicely and come up with a clearer, less attack-ridden topic and post it in Feedback? Would not have likely worked because the staff is "corrupt", no use listening to them. Warned them again? Does causing a riot and always trying to show the staff is corrupt in some way really need to be told to them that its wrong? Banned one or two of them? The remaining would just continue to be causing problems and they had all received previous warnings of some kind for user behavior.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Picture Posting Incidents]Jeod's picture in this topic also had words with it and enough content. There was an instance where he posted just a picture and Infini gave him an informal warning. There was also a time when Porkchop just posted a Kermit the frog image with no words at all that got deleted by a moderator with no warning given. A problem though when either walnut100, Porkchop, or sometimes gm112 would post a picture with little or no content, there would be multiple other posts made with just an image made after that.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: Starforsaken101 on May 06, 2009, 05:47:22 pm
(http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/attachments/f2/22971d1205538146-making-nice-forum-drama.jpeg)

Irony here it that I wasn't a part of this. Usually I'm the one stirring things up.
Where'd you dig up that lame excuse for a failed attempt at a funny picture relevant to current events?

He was just trying to lighten up the mood, and admitting that he usually starts the dramz on this forum :P (don't worry Jeod, I'm just kidding). I must say, now that they're gone, I can breathe again without wanting to rage half the time.

Funny enough, when nutmeg, porkchop, or gm post a picture like that, people get angry and whine. But when someone else does it, they're "lightening" the mood

funny how that works.

He also didn't just post a picture. He commented on it and it was relevant to the topic.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: FISSURE on May 06, 2009, 06:13:54 pm
(http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/attachments/f2/22971d1205538146-making-nice-forum-drama.jpeg)

Irony here it that I wasn't a part of this. Usually I'm the one stirring things up.
Where'd you dig up that lame excuse for a failed attempt at a funny picture relevant to current events?

He was just trying to lighten up the mood, and admitting that he usually starts the dramz on this forum :P (don't worry Jeod, I'm just kidding). I must say, now that they're gone, I can breathe again without wanting to rage half the time.

Funny enough, when nutmeg, porkchop, or gm post a picture like that, people get angry and whine. But when someone else does it, they're "lightening" the mood

funny how that works.

He also didn't just post a picture. He commented on it and it was relevant to the topic.


[spoiler=Picture Posting Incidents]Jeod's picture in this topic also had words with it and enough content. There was an instance where he posted just a picture and Infini gave him an informal warning. There was also a time when Porkchop just posted a Kermit the frog image with no words at all that got deleted by a moderator with no warning given. A problem though when either walnut100, Porkchop, or sometimes gm112 would post a picture with little or no content, there would be multiple other posts made with just an image made after that.[/spoiler]

Rest assured, FISSURE, if Jeod was breaking any rules he would have gotten warned.  In this case, his stupid annoying picture was somewhat related to the topic.  (not flaming, I just don't like the pic he posted)

Ah, you all make valid points :D
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: Jeod on May 06, 2009, 06:28:53 pm
Valid points in my opinion too. However I will stop posting "picture words" if you don't like it.
Title: Re: About gm112,Wally,porkchop >_>.
Post by: Kren on May 06, 2009, 06:42:19 pm
Jeod I found your post spamish, I don't know why Starforsaken101 supports your post since when posting forum drama in a blue fox is not spam >_> , but anyways I got the answers I wanted so Locked.

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