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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2008, 08:03:35 pm »
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I think it is funny that you quoted just that sentence when what you replied to it with is what I said in the sentences after, for the most part. There are those who buy guns who hunt or train on gun ranges for better use of their firearm. To tell these people that they cannot have guns is intrusive because they are legally responsible with them.
That would be me. I went through gun safety and hunting safety classes at the age of 12. I was raised with guns. I know how to handle and maintain them. There are many out there who are like me. It just seems stupid to punish those who have done no wrong because.1% of the population has some kind of gun related illegal activities. Besides, my constitution still gives me the right to keep and bear arms.
Nope, it doesn't. An amendment to your constitution implies the right to keep and bear arms, but also implies that there should be a military and nothing else. Besides, your government ignores enough parts of the constitution... there was a Youtube video about it, actually. I think it is funny that you quoted just that sentence when what you replied to it with is what I said in the sentences after, for the most part. There are those who buy guns who hunt or train on gun ranges for better use of their firearm. To tell these people that they cannot have guns is intrusive because they are legally responsible with them.
You misunderstand me; I was saying that any civilian, with no over-reaching authority to question them on the use of each and every single round (as all police officers are, and you would expect that soldiers would be questioned on misuse of rounds), is inappropriate person to be allowed to have firearms.
I do not believe that hunting is a proper reason to have firearms (cruelty to animals, anyone?), and "training for better use" - what use is that, exactly?
What I'm saying is that without the proper checks on all firearms users, then we cannot trust all of them to be responsible (any small minority is dangerous, as can be seen from the various firearms-fuelled massacres in the last few years); and as it is impossible for government to keep a close eye on all potential civilian gun owner's use of their firearms, I do not believe it is suitable that they should be allowed firearms.
What's wrong with hunting? Nothing cruel about it. I go out hunting all the time. Deer are animals. They don't improve the people, they make no contributions to the public, and they taste really good.
I said animal cruelty. And if you don't believe that hunting down a relatively intelligent animal, that feels emotions just as you do, and can feel pain just as you can, and shooting it to death, just to fill your belly, then I'm very worried about you, sir. And checking all people that have firearms is something that a dictatorship does. The minute that you know who has firearms, is the minute you know who you can illeminate when you are ready to have a government take over. The government(at least the USA government) IMO is afraid of its own people. Too many politions ride on money and power and the average citzien is a threat to them as long as they possess firearms. Gun control only TRUELY pushes marshal law/complete take over by the government. That was why back in the day we had the right to keep and bear arms. to protect ourselves from invasion and from our own government from taking over. I sincerely hope you understand my views.
Oh god. Yet again people misunderstand me; I was saying that it would be impossible for the government to do that, so civilians shouldn't be allowed to keep firearms. And now you're saying preposterous things like it being the civilian's duty to protect themselves from radical governments! That's ridiculous. It is government's role to serve the people and army's role to protect the people. The moment that falls apart, it won't matter if civilians can protect themselves with guns or not. Actually it was to stop the British invading, we're just waiting for you to remove all guns so we can rise again. Don't tell anyone, it's a big secret 
lol true true, but there were others that wanted to invade during the same time. Is it an outdated law? maybe. But IMO I believe the day the USA acts with a gun control law is the day we see some very bad things start to happen to the US.
For some reason I think the bad things will be done to the Americans, rather than other countries 
You had a typo...fixed. And pretty much that is what will happen. Our trrops are spread out so far that if the citizen can no longer protect themselves, enemy countries will take advantage of the situation. Look at Switzerland...Hitler marched around it and left it there becuase he knew that those people pretty much had at least 1 firearm to each home and that at a young age, the men were trained with how to defend their families and friends with said firearm. Just knowing the enemy population has firearms along with their army is very persuasive in whether or not you invade them.
Wow, Godwin's Law. Isn't that some guideline that whoever invokes Godwin's Law, loses the debate?
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