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[Theforeshadower]

Theforeshadower

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

It's been banned in public places here for quite a while, it's actually quite cool. I understand the complaints about the legislation, but it all works out.

Well it's not public places...it's bars. Bars.  Where adults go.

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[Cuddle♥Bunny]

Cuddle♥Bunny

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

It's been banned in public places here for quite a while, it's actually quite cool. I understand the complaints about the legislation, but it all works out.

Well it's not public places...it's bars. Bars.  Where adults go.

Bars are public places.

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[Theforeshadower]

Theforeshadower

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

It's been banned in public places here for quite a while, it's actually quite cool. I understand the complaints about the legislation, but it all works out.

Well it's not public places...it's bars. Bars.  Where adults go.

Bars are public places.

but it's a public place you DO NOT have to enter.  It's a choice to go there.

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[Cuddle♥Bunny]

Cuddle♥Bunny

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

It's been banned in public places here for quite a while, it's actually quite cool. I understand the complaints about the legislation, but it all works out.

Well it's not public places...it's bars. Bars.  Where adults go.

Bars are public places.

but it's a public place you DO NOT have to enter.  It's a choice to go there.

The same could be said of all public places.

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[Pyru]

Pyru

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

I dislike taking our freedoms.

I dislike cancer and lung disease.

[Theforeshadower]

Theforeshadower

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

I dislike taking our freedoms.

I dislike cancer and lung disease.

Then don't smoke.  Don't go to smoking bars.  Don't hang around smokers.  Also:Don't inhale lead...that'll also cause cancer as will working in coal mines.

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[Cuddle♥Bunny]

Cuddle♥Bunny

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

Does anyone like cancer and lung disease?

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[Pyru]

Pyru

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

I dislike taking our freedoms.

I dislike cancer and lung disease.

Then don't smoke.  Don't go to smoking bars.  Don't hang around smokers.  Also:Don't inhale lead...that'll also cause cancer as will working in coal mines.

But I'd like to go to bars full stop; and in this country, without laws to enforce it, it's very difficult to find non-smoking bars. Not only that, but the only jobs really available for students my age in the area, are in bars. And I don't wanna have to inhale lungfuls of carcinogenic !@#$% just to earn some money to get by.

Does anyone like cancer and lung disease?

Smokers, apparently? That's the only thing they're getting from smoking. Well, that and bad skin, nails, teeth and a nasty smell.

[YourMom]

YourMom

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

!@#$% smoking.
It's a waste of money.
It's stupid.
It kills.

I hope to God that Canada and the US ban smoking all together.
I hate smoking and I don't want to see it in my country.

I don't care if you smoke. Not everyone that smokes is a !@#$%-bag but I don't get why people start in the first place.
It doesn't make you look cool and you're not cool if you need to smoke to fit in.

/end of pointless rant

Sure.  While we're at it, we can ban drinking and writing and painting and coding and programming and all the other things you yourself may not agree with.

[Kylink]

Kylink

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

I know why people say smoking is bad. It gives you cancer and all that, but we shouldn't be taking away somebody's right to smoke. People eat loads of bad stuff everyday and get really freaking fat, do we outlaw Mcdonalds? No.

I hope that one day all the good stuff (smoking, drinking, etc.) will all be gone but...I hope for a lot...doesn't mean its going to happen.

This kind of reminds me of that South Park episode where they learn about all those bad names for people, and then they go outside and insult that guy smoking...

Grimace is the demiurge, the creator. From him all things in McDonaldland have sprung. He is not a sin, he's not a menu item, he's just Grimace. He exists. He rolls his lidless eyes and flaps his lipless mouth, formless and terrible, a protean idiot thing from the depths of pre-history.

[TheDarkJay]

TheDarkJay

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

We don't take away their right to smoke. We take away their right to smoke in public places. They can go outside in the wind and rain and no-one will complain (except them). I say tough !@#$%.

[Cuddle♥Bunny]

Cuddle♥Bunny

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

Nobody is taking away anyone's "right to smoke." You can still smoke, just not in public buildings.

Smoking is directly dangerous to the people around the smokers, unlike McDonald's or drinking beer or any of that.

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[Theforeshadower]

Theforeshadower

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

No, your just taking away the BUSINESS OWNER's right to have smoking or no smoking in his business.
Socialism/communism anyone?

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[gm112]

gm112

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

No, your just taking away the BUSINESS OWNER's right to have smoking or no smoking in his business.
Socialism/communism anyone?

You know, I'm glad they're cracking down on the smoking. The tobacco industries are nothing but scandals. What do you get out of smoking? Ok, at first you get the feeling of "feeling good"... but in the future, you'll !@#$% yourself up. But hey, it's not only you you're !@#$% up, but it's other people! If you hate smoking in the rain/wind, then quit or do it in your own house. The government had a decision to make between the people who don't smoke and don't want to get affected by it and the people who do smoke and might/might not care about what happens. If you use some common sense, the government chooses better health over anything else.

[Theforeshadower]

Theforeshadower

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

No, your just taking away the BUSINESS OWNER's right to have smoking or no smoking in his business.
Socialism/communism anyone?

You know, I'm glad they're cracking down on the smoking. The tobacco industries are nothing but scandals. What do you get out of smoking? Ok, at first you get the feeling of "feeling good"... but in the future, you'll !@#$% yourself up. But hey, it's not only you you're !@#$% up, but it's other people! If you hate smoking in the rain/wind, then quit or do it in your own house. The government had a decision to make between the people who don't smoke and don't want to get affected by it and the people who do smoke and might/might not care about what happens. If you use some common sense, the government chooses better health over anything else.

It's not the governments right to dictate my life.  That's communism.  That's the problem with America.  People are letting our government run our lives for us like !@#$% sheep...

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[Cuddle♥Bunny]

Cuddle♥Bunny

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

No, your just taking away the BUSINESS OWNER's right to have smoking or no smoking in his business.
Socialism/communism anyone?

You know, I'm glad they're cracking down on the smoking. The tobacco industries are nothing but scandals. What do you get out of smoking? Ok, at first you get the feeling of "feeling good"... but in the future, you'll !@#$% yourself up. But hey, it's not only you you're !@#$% up, but it's other people! If you hate smoking in the rain/wind, then quit or do it in your own house. The government had a decision to make between the people who don't smoke and don't want to get affected by it and the people who do smoke and might/might not care about what happens. If you use some common sense, the government chooses better health over anything else.

It's not the governments right to dictate my life.  That's communism.  That's the problem with America.  People are letting our government run our lives for us like !@#$% sheep...

As a communist I will tell you right now that that isn't communism at all.

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[Swoftu]

Swoftu

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

No, your just taking away the BUSINESS OWNER's right to have smoking or no smoking in his business.
Socialism/communism anyone?

You know, I'm glad they're cracking down on the smoking. The tobacco industries are nothing but scandals. What do you get out of smoking? Ok, at first you get the feeling of "feeling good"... but in the future, you'll !@#$% yourself up. But hey, it's not only you you're !@#$% up, but it's other people! If you hate smoking in the rain/wind, then quit or do it in your own house. The government had a decision to make between the people who don't smoke and don't want to get affected by it and the people who do smoke and might/might not care about what happens. If you use some common sense, the government chooses better health over anything else.

It's not the governments right to dictate my life.  That's communism.  That's the problem with America.  People are letting our government run our lives for us like !@#$% sheep...

You're such a rebel.

[Cuddle♥Bunny]

Cuddle♥Bunny

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

I mean seriously does anyone even know what communism is anymore or has the red scare brainwashed everyone?

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[gm112]

gm112

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

No, your just taking away the BUSINESS OWNER's right to have smoking or no smoking in his business.
Socialism/communism anyone?

You know, I'm glad they're cracking down on the smoking. The tobacco industries are nothing but scandals. What do you get out of smoking? Ok, at first you get the feeling of "feeling good"... but in the future, you'll !@#$% yourself up. But hey, it's not only you you're !@#$% up, but it's other people! If you hate smoking in the rain/wind, then quit or do it in your own house. The government had a decision to make between the people who don't smoke and don't want to get affected by it and the people who do smoke and might/might not care about what happens. If you use some common sense, the government chooses better health over anything else.

It's not the governments right to dictate my life.  That's communism.  That's the problem with America.  People are letting our government run our lives for us like !@#$% sheep...

So you're saying that communism is the result of one !@#$% law that is preventing smokers from harming other people due to airborne gasses? I have a feeling you smoke, Theforeshadower since you're really angered with this law being passed. I didn't see you posting a topic about the Happy Birthday song being copyrighted and how much you hated that.(Not being sarcastic, by the way) I remember when I went to restaurants with my family that I would always end up caughing a lot and not feeling good after being in that restaurant due to a lot of smoke. I'm asthmetic and we always sat in the non-smokers section, but it always went throughout the entire place. I'm fully against tobacco because it's harmful, and the companies that produce it are money slugs. Besides, they only stated for indoor places. It wouldn't hurt just to walk a few steps to a door and stand outside just to have a smoke now would it? If it's raining, or whatever condition that you don't like then save it for the car or anywhere elsewhere where you'll have people around you that may potentially dislike breathing in smoke.

EDIT: Woah.. I read the topic name as "anywhere" instead of "pubs/bars".. this changes my argument a little. If this ban is going to be for places where people are destroying themselfs( I mean really, drinking destroys you regardless what you say ) then they should just ban drinking too >__>.. I don't think it should be banned anymore, I change my opinion. You normally don't see children at pubs and bars, so smoking shouldn't be as much as a problem as before, right? Meh... I'm starting to side with you on this. Ignore my above idea rofl.

[शेफाली]

शेफाली

Re: Smoking ban in pubs/bars...are we serious?

No, your just taking away the BUSINESS OWNER's right to have smoking or no smoking in his business.
Socialism/communism anyone?

You know, I'm glad they're cracking down on the smoking. The tobacco industries are nothing but scandals. What do you get out of smoking? Ok, at first you get the feeling of "feeling good"... but in the future, you'll !@#$% yourself up. But hey, it's not only you you're !@#$% up, but it's other people! If you hate smoking in the rain/wind, then quit or do it in your own house. The government had a decision to make between the people who don't smoke and don't want to get affected by it and the people who do smoke and might/might not care about what happens. If you use some common sense, the government chooses better health over anything else.

It's not the governments right to dictate my life.  That's communism.  That's the problem with America.  People are letting our government run our lives for us like !@#$% sheep...

When your actions harm someone else (smoking), someone needs to step in and tell you that you can't do it. If the government doesn't ban smoking, then it should also be legal for someone to take out a gun and shoot you if you're smoking near them. Now which makes more sense: Let people do whatever they want, regardless of who's affected, or prohibit them from doing something that harms other people?