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« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2008, 04:25:13 am »
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No, your just taking away the BUSINESS OWNER's right to have smoking or no smoking in his business.
Socialism/communism anyone?
You know, I'm glad they're cracking down on the smoking. The tobacco industries are nothing but scandals. What do you get out of smoking? Ok, at first you get the feeling of "feeling good"... but in the future, you'll !@#$% yourself up. But hey, it's not only you you're !@#$% up, but it's other people! If you hate smoking in the rain/wind, then quit or do it in your own house. The government had a decision to make between the people who don't smoke and don't want to get affected by it and the people who do smoke and might/might not care about what happens. If you use some common sense, the government chooses better health over anything else.
It's not the governments right to dictate my life. That's communism. That's the problem with America. People are letting our government run our lives for us like !@#$% sheep...
So you're saying that communism is the result of one !@#$% law that is preventing smokers from harming other people due to airborne gasses? I have a feeling you smoke, Theforeshadower since you're really angered with this law being passed. I didn't see you posting a topic about the Happy Birthday song being copyrighted and how much you hated that.(Not being sarcastic, by the way) I remember when I went to restaurants with my family that I would always end up caughing a lot and not feeling good after being in that restaurant due to a lot of smoke. I'm asthmetic and we always sat in the non-smokers section, but it always went throughout the entire place. I'm fully against tobacco because it's harmful, and the companies that produce it are money slugs. Besides, they only stated for indoor places. It wouldn't hurt just to walk a few steps to a door and stand outside just to have a smoke now would it? If it's raining, or whatever condition that you don't like then save it for the car or anywhere elsewhere where you'll have people around you that may potentially dislike breathing in smoke.
That's from improper ventilation. I also never saw this Happy Birthday issue >.> lol. I didn't mean to say that this law is communism. I meant that it is just a smaller piece of the puzzle. In communism, the government controls businesses, I know this from Government class that I took in highschool. Not saying anything about you personally, but this law is only even thought of here because of a few whiners that have money to feed to politicians. Seriously. It has been shown that smoking bans in bars hurt their business. I am alright with smoking bans in restaraunts...just to appeal and find middle ground in all this. Do I support it? No, because you are still infringing on the rights of the business owner. Customers don't have to go to Applebee's. Applebee's' here in Michigan have smoking. I never hear anyone complain about the smoke. They are mostly well ventilated. Just a thought: So if we ban smoking, what's next? Every restaraunt must serve healthy organic food from now on? You must have a $5 cover charge with 50% going to the government? You cannot enter until well dressed? These sound silly, but where does it stop? It's like with gun control. Okay you got rid of guns...what's next? Knives? Cars? Baseball bats? Golf clubs? Tire irons? pens? I just really look at it in the perspective of the government exchurting control where it doesn't need to. If you let big brother put his foot in your door, he gains control of your house. You can't stop big brother...lol Wow that went everywhere >.> No, your just taking away the BUSINESS OWNER's right to have smoking or no smoking in his business.
Socialism/communism anyone?
You know, I'm glad they're cracking down on the smoking. The tobacco industries are nothing but scandals. What do you get out of smoking? Ok, at first you get the feeling of "feeling good"... but in the future, you'll !@#$% yourself up. But hey, it's not only you you're !@#$% up, but it's other people! If you hate smoking in the rain/wind, then quit or do it in your own house. The government had a decision to make between the people who don't smoke and don't want to get affected by it and the people who do smoke and might/might not care about what happens. If you use some common sense, the government chooses better health over anything else.
It's not the governments right to dictate my life. That's communism. That's the problem with America. People are letting our government run our lives for us like !@#$% sheep...
When your actions harm someone else (smoking), someone needs to step in and tell you that you can't do it. If the government doesn't ban smoking, then it should also be legal for someone to take out a gun and shoot you if you're smoking near them. Now which makes more sense: Let people do whatever they want, regardless of who's affected, or prohibit them from doing something that harms other people?
But you can WALK AWAY from smokers. You guys act like you HAVE to be near them.
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