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« on: October 12, 2007, 08:55:55 pm »
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http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/30/40/30_40graffitigirl.html



New face of vandalism?
By Gersh Kuntzman
The Brooklyn Paper
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The Brooklyn Paper / Julie Rosenberg
Six-year-old Natalie Shea got a threatening letter from the city demanding the removal of “graffiti” she drew with chalk — with chalk! — on her front step. Here, Shea shows her defiance to the warning letter by creating a new work with the supposedly illegal medium.
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Natalie Shea with her warning letter and the alleged graffiti.
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A 6-year-old Park Slope girl is facing a $300 fine from the city for doing what city kids have been doing for decades: drawing a pretty picture with common sidewalk chalk.

Obviously not all of Natalie Shea’s 10th Street neighbors thought her blue chalk splotch was her best work — a neighbor called 311 to report the “graffiti,” and the Department of Sanitation quickly sent a standard letter to Natalie’s mom, Jen Pepperman.

Can somebody stop these bureaucrats before they Kafka again?

“PLEASE REMOVE THE GRAFFITI FROM YOUR PROPERTY,” the Sanitation Department warning letter read. “FAILURE TO COMPLY … MAY RESULT IN ENFORCEMENT ACTION AGAINST YOU.”

Since when is a kid’s chalk drawing “graffiti”? Since the City Council passed local law 111 in 2005, which defined “graffiti” as “any letter, word, name, number, symbol, slogan, message, drawing, picture, writing … that is drawn, painted, chiseled, scratched, or etched on a commercial building or residential building.”

In other words, Natalie Shea is not an artistic little girl, but a graffiti scofflaw?

No. The law goes on to say that the scribbles can only be called “graffiti” if they are “not consented to by the owner of the commercial building or residential building.” But how could the 311 caller possibly be expected to know if Natalie had her mom’s consent to use chalk on her own front stoop?

“He could have just asked!” Pepperman said. “This whole thing is ridiculous. Admittedly, this drawing was not her best work — she usually sticks to cheerful scenes, not abstracts, frankly — but to send a warning letter like that is outrageous.”

Pepperman ticked off any number of daily insults to common decency on her block, including (but not limited to) dog poop, garbage from ill-kept homes, and noise from car alarms. But Sanitation didn’t get a 311 call about those indignities. It got a call about a 6-year-old’s drawing.

“The report came in as ‘graffiti,’ and, as you know, the city is trying to crack down on graffiti on private property,” said agency spokeswoman Cathy Dawkins.

“It’s a standard warning letter,” added Dawkins. “The property owner has 45 days to remove it or ask the city to remove it. We’ll inspect after that, and if the graffiti is still there, the property owner has another 60 days before we’ll write a summons.”

For sidewalk chalk that would dissolve at the first rain? Dawkins said the law is on her agency’s side.

“The instrument used — whether it’s paint or chalk — does not matter,” she said.

But if Dawkins is right, than the city has just criminalized hopscotch or drawing arrows to point neighbors towards a stoop sale down the block — as long as a neighbor calls 311 to complain.

In reality, chalkers have little reason to start using invisible ink. The city’s pre-eminent sidewalk chalk illustrator, Ellis Gallagher, says he’s outlining street furniture and other objects for years and never been arrested.

“Cops stop me all the time when they see me drawing on the sidewalk, but once they see it’s just chalk, they always let me go,” said Gallagher, a Carroll Gardens resident (see his work at www.myspace.com/ellis_gee).

Gallagher believes that, despite local law 111, drawing in chalk is not illegal. But a call to the NYPD revealed that there’s a lot of gray area.

“According the New York penal law, graffiti is the etching, painting, covering, drawing or otherwise placing of a mark upon public or private property with intent to damage such property,” said an NYPD spokesman.

When pressed to define “intent” or, for that matter, “damage,” the spokesman added: “If it can be washed away, it’s not graffiti, clearly, but it still could be criminal mischief. If I cover your car with mustard, that’s not graffiti, but it’s also not legal.”

Pepperman is holding firm that her daughter is a pretty artist and not a petty criminal.

And for his part, Natalie’s father, George Shea, hoped that his daughter wouldn’t learn the wrong lesson from her “graffiti” crime wave.

“I do love that kid,” Shea said, “but I wish she would stop capping my tags.”


She's a cute Criminal, We can't have kids drawing on sidewalks, THROW THE BOOK AT HER
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2007, 09:13:44 pm »
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She's obviously drawing Soviet propoganda on the sidewalk. It's a picture of Sputnik.

That little commie should be thrown in jail.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2007, 09:15:51 pm »
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The dude that said that Chalk Grafiti can be washed away so its not Grafiti... well he does realise ALL grafiti can be washed away... right?
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2007, 09:18:13 pm »
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DEATH PENALTY!!!
No, seriously, that was just stupid.
Also, ironically, I just needed to read the title to know that it happened in the USA... >_>
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2007, 09:29:17 pm »
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She's obviously drawing Soviet propoganda on the sidewalk. It's a picture of Sputnik.

That little commie should be thrown in jail.

XD

Oh !@#$%. That's hilarious. It does look like that doesn't it though?

Seriously though this is ridiculous.
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2007, 10:47:23 pm »
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I'd love to see what happens when you draw a picture of Stalin on the pavement. Or Lenin.

Tyranny at work, kids.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2007, 10:56:28 pm »
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The !@#$% had it coming. What's the world coming to when society will let six year old girls vandalize abandoned public exercise asphalt?
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2007, 10:59:34 pm »
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The !@#$% had it coming. What's the world coming to when society will let six year old girls vandalize abandoned public exercise asphalt?

Lol. I see what you're getting at. Society's too damn sensitive these days. "What if someone complains? O noes!" They should just ban lawsuits except for injury and invasion of private property.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2007, 12:54:45 am »
That\'s ridiculous.

Honestly, why would the city do this? It\'s CHALK. Easily washable to remove and it\'s not like it\'s profanity, it\'s a little kids drawings. If this is now considered Illegal, I don\'t know what will be next.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2007, 12:54:59 am »
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Your country is messed up, we get it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2007, 02:09:20 am »
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She's obviously drawing Soviet propoganda on the sidewalk. It's a picture of Sputnik.

That little commie should be thrown in jail.

QFT. In Soviet Russia, Chalk draws on YOU.

But in all seriousness, what the hell? This is obviously the result of global warming. It's getting to people's heads.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2007, 02:13:52 am »
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Wow.

Some people in this world need to have a bus dropped on their body.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2007, 02:17:55 am »
Your country is messed up, we get it.
Truer words have never been spoken, but seriously this is the epitome of retard...stupid americans.
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Your country is messed up, we get it.
Truer words have never been spoken, but seriously this is the epitome of retard...stupid americans.
Stop hating on the Americans. Some are idiots, but the same with other countries. Don't be ignorant.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2007, 03:34:56 am »
i'll be if i want to.  >:D
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Then you'd be breaking rule 1 and 1a of the community rules found in the Announcements board.
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Your country is messed up, we get it.
Truer words have never been spoken, but seriously this is the epitome of retard...stupid americans.

Oh look, someone who hates America by generalizing a bunch of small inccidents.



This is new and exciting.
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2007, 05:37:55 am »
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Your country is messed up, we get it.
Now that's just downright generalization. It's not the whole country that's messed up, just all the people that are in charge of... well, everything, including the Law. And some others... Well, alot of others, but there are still a large bunch of great Americans that are intelligent and all that.

Ehhhhh no offense. You know.

Your country is messed up, we get it.
Truer words have never been spoken, but seriously this is the epitome of retard...stupid americans.

Oh look, someone who hates America by generalizing a bunch of small inccidents.



This is new and exciting.
I see that you are being sarcastic. But, "a bunch of small incidents" is under underexadurating (sp?). Many would agree.
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Well, this isn't as bad as the time a 70 year old lady got arrested for not watering her lawn, but its up there.
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Your country is messed up, we get it.
Truer words have never been spoken, but seriously this is the epitome of retard...stupid americans.

<_< you do realize that Canada is PART of America right? The country you're referring to is "The United States of America", not "America". "America" is a continent; more specifically "North America" (which Canada is a part of as well), and "South America". :P... I much prefer the term "Usonian" over "American".
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