It's kind of ironic but this is pretty much what Team Plasma wanted in black and white 1 >.>
Also cheren doesn't have pikachu >.>
It's kind of ironic but this is pretty much what Team Plasma wanted in black and white 1 >.>
Also cheren doesn't have pikachu >.>
I see that you're like Pikachu: didn't you finish Black and White? :P
It's nicely done. It always annoyed me that all these Pokémon games are all about being nice to your Pokémon and bonding. !@#$% that! They're killing machines that do my bidding!
I personaly liked gen 1-3 but aftearwards I gave up on the series/games
I have to disagree there. Minus the engine improvements that comes with each generation, each new generation after the first two started becoming more and more linear, to the point where you can't even branch out anymore, because they're always railroading you to specific areas. They're TRYING to get more intense with the stories, but...it's still basically the same thing. This isn't to say the games are bad, but they've definitely been going downhill since Gen 3, where they started to strip the player's exploration freedom.
bull. every game for the most part has been linear. and even then, the players freedom has been the same. you can still pass through a town just like before in previous gens.
First of all, I'm gonna say some things about Pokemon, as I'm a huge fan about it:This pretty much.I have to disagree there. Minus the engine improvements that comes with each generation, each new generation after the first two started becoming more and more linear, to the point where you can't even branch out anymore, because they're always railroading you to specific areas. They're TRYING to get more intense with the stories, but...it's still basically the same thing. This isn't to say the games are bad, but they've definitely been going downhill since Gen 3, where they started to strip the player's exploration freedom.
Lol, Pokemon has no story AT ALL. I mean, is always the same. Even from the first game, you could tell that the story wasn't very well developed. However, I agree with you in some things.bull. every game for the most part has been linear. and even then, the players freedom has been the same. you can still pass through a town just like before in previous gens.
I completey disagree with you at this. In gen 1, after reaching Cerulean, you could visit Vermilion, Saffron, Lavender, Fuchsia and Celadon. And you could win the gyms in the order you wanted. Except for gyms 7 and 8.
Gen 2. After passing Goldenrod, you could go to Mahogany, Ecruteak and and Olivine.That's for Jhoto. Then, in Kanto, you could go anywhere, even thought the Digglet Cave was closed, you could take the surf route. With that said, you could defeat gym leaders in the order you wanted.
Like I said, don't DISLIKE Black and White, or their sequels, but they definitely hold your hand way too much.
You're clearly missing the point. It has nothing to do with the Pokemon. It's about how they're shaping out the world, and letting the player traverse it.
Yes, I have fully completed Black and I was disappointed in how little you can actually explore, because they're constantly railroading you to the next area. The path to the Pokemon League (before clearing it the first time) was literally a straight line. This is unacceptable; what happened to EXPLORING? One could argue since you haven't been in the area before, even if it is a straight line, because you're experiencing it for the first time, that it qualifies as exploration, but this is a technicality. Because you aren't given the opportunity to just branch out and do your own thing like you could on the first two generations, I don't count that as exploration.You're clearly missing the point. It has nothing to do with the Pokemon. It's about how they're shaping out the world, and letting the player traverse it.
i think your missing the point. have you even played the black or white, or black/white 2?
They're TRYING to get more intense with the stories, but...it's still basically the same thing.
exploration? really? still going on about that? so what if its a straight line, you can pass through the towns. once you beat elite 4, you get more area to "explore". exploration is the dumbest excuse i have ever heard.Again, it was still a straight line. Lemme break it down in the simplest way possible:They're TRYING to get more intense with the stories, but...it's still basically the same thing.
just noticed this.
Black/whites storyline is more intense, more interesting, and definitely the only game that technically has an actual story to it. It's story is better than any of the previous games. it's not basically the same thing. plus its story doesnt finish once you make it to the elite 4. it goes on after it. and what do you have to do to finish it? exploration. what do you know.
And if you don't get it yet, ask darkhunter, he knows everything about a Pokemon. He's a !@#$% Pokemon player
holy !@#$%, are all of you really just a bunch of !@#$% genwunners? the answer is yes. and you know what, im not going to argue with a bunch genwunners.So is this how you go about discussions with people of varying opinions? "You don't agree with me, you're a *group term here*. Bye."And if you don't get it yet, ask darkhunter, he knows everything about a Pokemon. He's a !@#$% Pokemon player
i'm sure he doesn't. and even then, no thanks. im sure is a genwunner also. no point.
holy !@#$%, are all of you really just a bunch of !@#$% genwunners? the answer is yes. and you know what, im not going to argue with a bunch genwunners.So is this how you go about discussions with people of varying opinions? "You don't agree with me, you're a *group term here*. Bye."And if you don't get it yet, ask darkhunter, he knows everything about a Pokemon. He's a !@#$% Pokemon player
i'm sure he doesn't. and even then, no thanks. im sure is a genwunner also. no point.
Well nonetheless, I'd say I'm anything but a so called "genwunner." I like something from each generation, including Gen 5, which happens to be the improved mechanics in the way the engine runs during battle, and the continuously animated Pokemon. I don't like the approach of the world is all. If that were done like it used to be done, I would like it a lot better.
...We could be a lot of time to do this, and we can cut it out now, as this theme was to show us a funny fan-game about Pokemon.My thoughts exactly XD
I think dlbrooks33 is just trying to say that you don't get to "choose" so much what areas to explore and in what order, as the game leads you to new ares in a linear fashion.This exactly. You used to be able to at certain points in previous games, as marked above, but I digress. To be honest though, I'm not sure much else can be said about Peta's fail idea here. From a game development point of view, if you strip out the preaching in there, the game is very well made; the engine is smooth, the artwork (minus the gore) is great, and the music is nice.
i do understand you want exploration. but thats not what pokemon is about. its about catching them all. its about getting the badges. beating the elite 4. and most importantly, trading and battling with your friends.I kinda like dlbrooks exploration idea, makes the player want to go to places and find rare pokemon in the process. Also having to find out where to go next is a good thing, sometimes hate it when NPC state the obvious.
What the !@#$% is a genwunner
holy !@#$%, are all of you really just a bunch of !@#$% genwunners? the answer is yes. and you know what, im not going to argue with a bunch genwunners.So is this how you go about discussions with people of varying opinions? "You don't agree with me, you're a *group term here*. Bye."And if you don't get it yet, ask darkhunter, he knows everything about a Pokemon. He's a !@#$% Pokemon player
i'm sure he doesn't. and even then, no thanks. im sure is a genwunner also. no point.
Well nonetheless, I'd say I'm anything but a so called "genwunner." I like something from each generation, including Gen 5, which happens to be the improved mechanics in the way the engine runs during battle, and the continuously animated Pokemon. I don't like the approach of the world is all. If that were done like it used to be done, I would like it a lot better.
I don't mean to just cut in to this highly nerdy conversation, but I would like to point out that I generally agree with Crim in the sense that not all of the storylines are the same. How the !@#$% is there no story in Gen 5? I'm not finished White yet but it has a lot more substance than the others.
Also, "you don't agree with me, you're a group term here" would be bad if he actually insulted you; he's calling you a genwunner. I don't really see what the big deal is here.
holy !@#$%, are all of you really just a bunch of !@#$% genwunners? the answer is yes. and you know what, im not going to argue with a bunch genwunners.And if you don't get it yet, ask darkhunter, he knows everything about a Pokemon. He's a !@#$% Pokemon player
i'm sure he doesn't. and even then, no thanks. im sure is a genwunner also. no point.
lol. so if you know everything, you would know black/white, and black/white 2 has prolly the best story, which is also more complex, than any of the previous gens.
lol. so if you know everything, you would know black/white, and black/white 2 has prolly the best story, which is also more complex, than any of the previous gens.I never said they didn't; I believe I even said that Black/White and their sequels are the most story-driven to date, only if you even consider the same old rehashed setup a story. It's the same deal with Mario. Unless you consider the same old "Peach gets kidnapped, go through 8 or so worlds and save her" as the story, then there is no story. It's the same with every (badge-collecting) Pokemon game...some kid/teenager wants to be the champion, goes to get 8 badges (16 for Gold/Silver/Crystal/HeartGold/SoulSilver <3), meets a mafia, environmentalists, facists, or animal rights activists, thwarts them all by theirself, meets a legendary and captures it, 'cause you know, legendaries are easy to come by like that, completes the league, after which everyone acts like it never happened, because the person they defeated is still the champion, and then post-game content. Like, how about some variance?
and okey, if we can say that pokemon has a storyline, okey, yes, b/w 2 has a very good one,
storyline, okey, yes, b/w 2 has a very good one,