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Title: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Theforeshadower on August 01, 2008, 02:15:29 am
THE LOST VIKINGS  ~  Infini

Preamble
=========================================================

This game is a remake of the classic SNES game The Lost
Vikings. It was written as an entry to a development
competition at ZFGC.com.

It is freely available to modify, change or generally play
around as the end user sees fit. The only condition is
that Binary Phoenix or its staff are not held responsible
for any issues caused by it.

The controls are the same as if you played
on a snes emulator.

Select = Enter (Inventory)
Start = Space (Restart)
Arrow Keys = Movement
A = L (Cycle players)
S = R (Cycle players)
D = X (Use item)
X = Y (Action 1; Headbutt, Bow, Shield)
C = B (Action 2; Jump, Sword, Shield)
V = A (Action 3; General Use)

There are also a number of debugging commands
available to use;

F1 = Open Console
F2 = Take Screenshot And Save As 1.png
F3 = Show Execution Statistics
Page Up = Scroll Console Up
Page Down = Scroll Console Down


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Screenshots provided with the package:
(http://metalgearvapor.coders-tavern.com/1.png)(http://metalgearvapor.coders-tavern.com/2.png)
(http://metalgearvapor.coders-tavern.com/3.png)(http://metalgearvapor.coders-tavern.com/4.png)
(http://metalgearvapor.coders-tavern.com/5.png)

Downloadlink:  http://metalgearvapor.coders-tavern.com/The_Lost_Vikings_(2008)_RC1.zip

Made with I believe C/C++ and Blitzmax?

Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Cassyblanca on August 01, 2008, 02:34:05 am
I never played Lost Vikings, but this is a solid game, as would be expected from Tim. It could have included a feature to disable full-screen, however, and could have implemented a more modernized options menu to at least allow you to modify the controls in-game. Good work.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Mamoruanime on August 01, 2008, 02:42:38 am
As said on MSN, very solid to the original, this is my favorite entry :p

ALTHOUGH MSTR DOESNT WORK.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Mirby on August 01, 2008, 02:45:43 am
He didn't make that stage. He only did the first world.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Mamoruanime on August 01, 2008, 02:46:29 am
He didn't make that stage. He only did the first world.

<_< I know this; lol It's an inside thing between Infinitus and I :P (I suggested adding an easter egg :P)... Also he did levels 1 and 2 (maybe another past 2, not sure)
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Mirby on August 01, 2008, 02:46:49 am
Oh. D'oh!

I'm on level 3 right now, and this just in. THE CONTROLS ARE CUSTOMIZABLE! You have to go into the ini file, though. But still, you can do it. I changed them into what I use on Snes9x. More detailed after I beat world 1, get the ending, and 100,000 rupees from Infini.

There is a typo in the TLPT stage, when talking to the alien after the first teleporter, it says ALIENTS, not ALIENS.

All in all, a faithful recreation of the awesome original! And here's the CENSORED final screen of your ending, Infini!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/dakirbymaster/1.png)
I like your ending, it's funny and shatters the belief that they think they are game characters. Great job! (Now where's my 100,000 rupees?)
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Cassyblanca on August 01, 2008, 04:58:30 am
...and this just in. THE CONTROLS ARE CUSTOMIZABLE! You have to go into the ini file, though. But still, you can do it. I changed them into what I use on Snes9x.
No !@#$% !@#$%, right? Because I totally wasn't referring to changing the controls IN GAME.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Theforeshadower on August 01, 2008, 05:09:46 am
Who gave this a zero?  Seriously, what makes you this this deserves a zero?
Just cus you don't like Infini?  Grow up, please.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: 4Sword on August 01, 2008, 05:17:14 am
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/4Sword/91pi2.gif)
"Zero?"

It wasn't me who gave the game a zero, in fact, I think the game looks good.  It deserves high marks.  I never played the original, but it kind of reminds me of Joe & Mac though in a way, so I might consider it.  Nice job.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Windy on August 01, 2008, 08:40:34 am
Anyone that gave this game under an 8 really should die though.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 01, 2008, 11:45:23 am
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It could have included a feature to disable full-screen, however, and could have implemented a more modernized options menu to at least allow you to modify the controls in-game. Good work.
It was meant to be an old school remake, I felt guilty enough adding the exit menu item in. You can change to windowed in the ini file though, set the window depth to 0.

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ALTHOUGH MSTR DOESNT WORK.
Didn't feel like doing that one :(.

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Also he did levels 1 and 2 (maybe another past 2, not sure)
Whole first world.

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THE CONTROLS ARE CUSTOMIZABLE! You have to go into the ini file, though. But still, you can do it. I changed them into what I use on Snes9x. More detailed after I beat world 1, get the ending, and 100,000 rupees from Infini.
Its better to use the console.cfg file for rebinding keys really, messing up the default ones can be a !@#$% if you do it wrong.

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There is a typo in the TLPT stage, when talking to the alien after the first teleporter, it says ALIENTS, not ALIENS.
>_<

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Who gave this a zero?  Seriously, what makes you this this deserves a zero?
No doubt KingKnight (Yes I can read polls :D) was trying to bias the vote in favour of either his own entry or a friend. No big deal. Either that or some horrible bug totally !@#$% it up so it wouldn't start on his pc.

And if your really bored, try editing the maps a bit, its pretty fun actually XD.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 01, 2008, 12:00:11 pm
By the way, if you can't work out how to complete a level, just leave the game on the titlescreen for a while. It will play a demo of one of the maps if you do.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: wildex999 on August 01, 2008, 03:14:32 pm
I really liked this one, I have never played "The Lost Vikings" before, so this was actually quite fun. Everything worked as I would expect, but since I have never played the original before, I have nothing to compare against. You seem to have gotten in the small and fun details, and even included a start tutorial(Under a tight schedule that is not something I would expect at first.)

I would have given this a full 10, if it had not been for some minor graphical glitches that I noticed quite clearly. The sprites seem to be cut in two on a horizontal line, so one half of the sprite is on top of another, and another half is behind, making it seem to flicker. And the sprites seem to be cut into a box. so the outer edges of the sprites would just disappear, something i noticed quite good when i fell into an electric beam on the first level i think(or was it the second?)

And another tiny bit I noticed: In the text you left it like it was in the original? As I noticed it told you to press Select to choose items or something, and some other keys that didn't match what it was bound to on the keyboard, but that didn't affect the score in any way ;)

Anyway, good job on this one :)
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 01, 2008, 03:20:45 pm
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I would have given this a full 10, if it had not been for some minor graphical glitches that I noticed quite clearly. The sprites seem to be cut in two on a horizontal line, so one half of the sprite is on top of another, and another half is behind, making it seem to flicker. And the sprites seem to be cut into a box. so the outer edges of the sprites would just disappear, something i noticed quite good when i fell into an electric beam on the first level i think(or was it the second?)
Thats not actually a glitch, its a graphics card deal. I wanted to make the game as compaible as possible so I upped the screen resolution to 800x600, meaning the sprites had to be scaled out of their aspect ratio, this make it look at bit nasty at times but its far more efficient.

And there are a number of miss-alignments of graphics, I apologise for that but considering I had to rip every single sprite and animation myself, you could cut me some slack :(, specially as I have no graphical tallent.

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And another tiny bit I noticed: In the text you left it like it was in the original? As I noticed it told you to press Select to choose items or something, and some other keys that didn't match what it was bound to on the keyboard, but that didn't affect the score in any way Ouch, you poked my eye out!
It is an old-school recreation remember :P, keep it as close as possible to the original.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Xavier on August 01, 2008, 04:43:12 pm
I just played the original 1st game yesterday, and I must say that this one is just awesome. Especially when we know that you wrote your own editor to make it (played a bit with btw, very fun).

Though I've those graphics card problems, I give you a 8/10, you deserve it.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Mirby on August 01, 2008, 07:01:03 pm
Great remake, sorry about pointing out the typo. Also, I only changed the main keys. For me, W=L, R=R, E=X, S=Y, D=A, X=B, Return=Start, and Space=Select. That's how I changed it. Didn't mess with anything else except the tileset for the editor. Also, can I use tilesets from other games in this (I have tilesets for MM2, MMX3, and NSMB)? If I edit it properly, of course. Also, where's mah rupees? And no offense to Kingknight or Ahruon, but they are 21 and 13 according to their profiles, respectively. In my opinion, Kingknight acts 13 and Ahruon, well I'd say 21 but he acts more mature than Kingknight, though not quite 21. I respect that. That's not a flame or anything; that's my personal observation. Anyways, awesome job and great ending! This game deserves an 11! And I'm mad at myself. I accidentally gave it a 6 before even playing it. I meant to give it more. Now I can't change it. :( One of my favorite games of all time; and one last thing. Why the heck is Olaf playing the drums in his sprite sheet?
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 01, 2008, 07:28:03 pm
Yes you can change the tilesets. Just create a declaration file in Bin\Config\Tilesets, most of the entries are obvious, then select it in the map properties in the editor.

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Why the heck is Olaf playing the drums in his sprite sheet?
Its part of the credit sequence in the original game.

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I accidentally gave it a 6 before even playing it. I meant to give it more.
!@#$% :P.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Mirby on August 01, 2008, 07:30:02 pm
I still don't have my rupees!
Owwwh, we're doing bets now are we? Awesome. I will give anyone 100,000 rupees who can take a screenshot of the ending sequence of my game :D
See, where are they? I posted a screenshot!
Also, sweet! Lost Vikings in Quickman Stage!

EDIT: I need to get the hang of the editor. Making the custom tileset is easy. Putting into a stage is a completely different matter. I'm splitting my MM2 tileset into 2 parts. The normal stages (with boss images and intro city tileset), and the Wily Stages. I've already finished the first part. I'll upload it when I get the chance. The password for the first Wily stage will be WILY hehe. For the main levels, MEGA. Now working on the NSMB tileset. I'll upload them all when I get the chance. Great work on an amazing program, Infini!
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Kylink on August 02, 2008, 02:04:40 am
I must say, this is a spectacular effort, and truly a great endevour that turned out...amazing.

I can see that you didn't sweat the small stuff, but you actually put tons of effort into making it a full and complete demo. The movement was smooth, the graphics crisp (despite the small graphical issues that were mentioned before), it sounded great, and obviously it plays a lot like the original. I have to say that you have outdone yourself Infini. I give it a 9/10.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Mirby on August 02, 2008, 02:05:47 am
I'm almost done with the New Super Mario Bros. tileset! After that, I'll make part 2 of the Megaman 2 tileset, zip up the .png and .ini files that are required, and post them here, ok?

This truly does deserve an 11/10. It's actually quite complete!
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Ness on August 02, 2008, 02:12:44 am
Helios will win this. 10'd.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Mirby on August 02, 2008, 03:17:51 am
Here they are!
Extra Tilesets (http://www.mediafire.com/?hxfahk2wfa8)
You'll have to go into the editor ini to use them. Change the tileset's name to the one you are using. For example, instead of
[Tileset]
url=pak::Bin\Config\Tilesets\Forest.ini
put
[Tileset]
url=pak::Bin\Config\Tilesets\NSMB.ini

That simple. I put forward slashes (/) instead of backslashes (\) in the readme. I meant backslashes. Please keep that in mind.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 02, 2008, 06:21:38 am
FYI your edit just sets the default tileset, theres a much easier way. Just create the tileset, open the map properties (it looks like a cog icon on the toolbar), and where it says tileset click browse and select it.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Mirby on August 02, 2008, 05:04:58 pm
I found that out afterwards. Still, I'm making a stage based on the classic stages. It'll be great! And the NSMB tileset took me like an hour and a half to compile.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: HyperKnight32 on August 03, 2008, 01:51:07 pm
Wha, it won't work :(. The screen just flickers to black and then flickers back and nothingĀ  :'(. No idea if I can get it to work, that's a shame, I was really looking forward to trying this out.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just changed from opengl to directx7 and made it windowed. Looks great, never played the original but this looks nicely done :P, great job with this infini.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 03, 2008, 01:53:33 pm
Wha, it won't work :(. The screen just flickers to black and then flickers back and nothing  :'(. No idea if I can get it to work, that's a shame, I was really looking forward to trying this out.
It may be that your video card dosen't like the driver I'm using. Open The Lost Vikings (2008).ini and change graphics:driver to DirectX7.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Pedlya on August 03, 2008, 02:26:59 pm
Didnt work. Zero'd.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 03, 2008, 03:41:27 pm
Didnt work. Zero'd.
Perhaps you could actually provide the log file or explain what is wrong rather than posting useless, unhelpfull posts?

Also please don't create duplicate accounts to repeatedly vote u_u.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: HyperKnight32 on August 04, 2008, 12:53:27 am
I guess I edited my reply too late :P, but I figured it out on my own, I kept changing opengl to directx7l for some reason I thought the l was a "]" then I realised my mistake and yeah :-[.

I didn't get very far but I was very impressed so, long intro and smooth gameplay, really had the SNES feel to it :).
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Pedlya on August 04, 2008, 02:26:43 am
Didnt work. Zero'd.
Perhaps you could actually provide the log file or explain what is wrong rather than posting useless, unhelpfull posts?

Also please don't create duplicate accounts to repeatedly vote u_u.

I didnt. Fail. Same computer different person.


Thats not useless either, its what happened.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 04, 2008, 11:44:21 am
Didnt work. Zero'd.
Perhaps you could actually provide the log file or explain what is wrong rather than posting useless, unhelpfull posts?

Also please don't create duplicate accounts to repeatedly vote u_u.
Thats not useless either, its what happened.
"Didn't Work" Is terribly vague, exactly what didn't work? How did it crash? What did the log file say? etc etc
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Pedlya on August 04, 2008, 11:53:10 am
I clicked the executable, it instantly closed after switching to fullscreen. I saw a black screen for a total of a second.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 04, 2008, 11:55:18 am
I clicked the executable, it instantly closed after switching to fullscreen. I saw a black screen for a total of a second.
Try doing what I told HyperKnight to do, change the graphics driver, it may not be support on your computer. I should probably have added a fallback method.

Open The Lost Vikings (2008).ini
Change Graphics:Driver to DirectX7
Change Graphics:Depth to 0
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: HyperKnight32 on August 04, 2008, 12:36:40 pm
I clicked the executable, it instantly closed after switching to fullscreen. I saw a black screen for a total of a second.
Try doing what I told HyperKnight to do, change the graphics driver, it may not be support on your computer. I should probably have added a fallback method.

Open The Lost Vikings (2008).ini
Change Graphics:Driver to DirectX7
Change Graphics:Depth to 0

Trust me, it should work, I did that exactly actually, I made sure I didn't vote till after I got it running ;).

Excuse my ignorance Infini but what exactly does Opengl do compared to Directx? I gather it's similar yet different?
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 04, 2008, 12:49:24 pm
I clicked the executable, it instantly closed after switching to fullscreen. I saw a black screen for a total of a second.
Try doing what I told HyperKnight to do, change the graphics driver, it may not be support on your computer. I should probably have added a fallback method.

Open The Lost Vikings (2008).ini
Change Graphics:Driver to DirectX7
Change Graphics:Depth to 0

Trust me, it should work, I did that exactly actually, I made sure I didn't vote till after I got it running ;).

Excuse my ignorance Infini but what exactly does Opengl do compared to Directx? I gather it's similar yet different?
They are just different graphics API's, they do the same thing essentialyy, its just that different video cards support them differently.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Kingknight on August 05, 2008, 12:11:23 am
how come i cant play i can only watch the viking fight :-X
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Kylink on August 05, 2008, 12:17:08 am
how come i cant play i can only watch the viking fight :-X
Sigh...how long did you wait?
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Kingknight on August 05, 2008, 12:18:01 am
i dont know like 20 minutes  >_>
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 05, 2008, 12:23:21 am
Press F3, what fps/ups are you getting? If you have a slow computer that dosen't get a good speed it can sometimes screw up the cinematics, sadly time constaintes didn't give me enough time to fix that glitch.

EDIT: After thinking, you may be able to fix this problem on your computer if it is caused by slowness. Open up the ini file and change system:fps from 60 to 30.

Getting programs to work on all computers is a !@#$% u_u, especially when you have no time to beta test anything.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Soulrivers on August 05, 2008, 01:29:46 pm
I AN OLAF. I have like many others never played this game, but I must say I liked it. The controls were a bit hard at first but it got better. :) I'll give this a 9 for not having customizable controls. >:|
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 05, 2008, 01:33:22 pm
I AN OLAF. I have like many others never played this game, but I must say I liked it. The controls were a bit hard at first but it got better. :) I'll give this a 9 for not having customizable controls. >:|
Its does :D. You just have to screw around with the console or the ini file :D. Couldn't add a menu or it would break the 'sticking-to-the-original' idea.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Pedlya on August 05, 2008, 01:34:36 pm
Changed fps, !@#$% around with ini file for a bit, got the music to play longer, and a white screen keeps coming up, but still no game :(
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 05, 2008, 01:38:12 pm
Changed fps, !@#$% around with ini file for a bit, got the music to play longer, and a white screen keeps coming up, but still no game :(
Sounds unpleasent :s. Not sure what thats being caused by.

Whats your computer setup? (Specifically gfx card)?
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Pedlya on August 05, 2008, 01:41:28 pm
Changed fps, !@#$% around with ini file for a bit, got the music to play longer, and a white screen keeps coming up, but still no game :(
Sounds unpleasent :s. Not sure what thats being caused by.

Whats your computer setup? (Specifically gfx card)?

Processor: Intel Pentium III, ~790MHz
Memory: 384MB RAM
       
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (Microsoft Corporation)
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce4 Ti 4200

I remember when this was top of the line *shakes fist*
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on August 05, 2008, 01:48:51 pm
Hum ... I think the most likely cause is that the graphics card dosen't support one or more of the techniques I was using when creating the game (serves me right using accelerated 3d for a 2d game u_u). I assumed you tried it with the DirectX7 driver? If so then theres not much I can do to help you, I don't have access to any similarly budget cards similar to that to test on.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: wildex999 on August 05, 2008, 10:45:32 pm
Seriously, if you need to have 2D software blitting for a game to work, then it might be time to upgrade the hardware ;)
But then again, having software blitting as a fallback isn't too bad =/
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Ricky on August 07, 2008, 02:39:28 am
Very solid and fluid, actually, as I would expect from you.
A 10 for the hard works it shows. Congratulations and thank you for entering.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on June 27, 2011, 02:25:29 pm
/gravedig

Apparently this game is going on a cover mouted cd with chip.de, a large german it magazine, cool.
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: pxl_moon (dotyue) on June 28, 2011, 06:36:47 am
which issue? i may look for it... i hope it will be the latest or the next ;)
Title: Re: CONTEST #6 Submission : The Lost Vikings ~ Infini (Oldschool)
Post by: Infinitus on June 28, 2011, 01:00:39 pm
August. If you manage to get a copy, send me an iso of the cd :3

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