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General => Boards => Archive => Contests => Topic started by: Mamoruanime on March 24, 2008, 06:41:49 am
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Category: Speedrun
Game: Super Metroid
Rules: You may not use any Game Genie cheats.
Requirements: Super Metroid, and Zsnes
Time Frame: Registration ends March 30th; Contest ends April 5th
Prize:
1st Place: Cpadolf 1000 Rupees, Award
2nd Place: Knightmare 500 Rupees, Award
3rd Place: .TakaM 250 Rupees, Award
Contest Description:
This is a contest to showcase your skills in gaming! Create a speed run of one of the most notoriously speedrun games in history! Super Metroid! Post your Zsnes movie file or uploaded youtube video of you playing here on the forum! You may exploit any number of glitches you desire. The quickest speedrun wins! Saved States, slowdown, etc are all acceptable!
Please Note: We do not condone/supply emulation software or roms here. ZFGC is not responsible for how users create their speedrun.
Current Entrants:
-.TakaM (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=836) - Error in video o.0... ends at Norfair, doesnt get to Motherbrain :( Missing a file?
-Smashguy164 (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2590) - DISQUALIFIED
-Lindgren (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1615) - DISQUALIFIED
-Knightmare (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=134) 00:50
-Cpadolf (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2613) 00:29
-Mamoruanime (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1969) - DISQUALIFIED
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Uhg, you fuckers just had to pick a game I've barely touched let alone ever beat....-_-...lol
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:P theres plenty of time to master it lol
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:P theres plenty of time to master it lol
Naw, I hate the side scrolling Metroids...I only enjoyed the Metroid game for the DS. But, if you ever did Zelda 2 or a Castlevania game *whistles*...
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Shame it was FF. I'd kick your butts! XD I completed FF4 in under 14 hours :D
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Shame it was FF. I'd kick your butts! XD I completed FF4 in under 14 hours :D
Laig, you don't want to know what I beat it in...I have gotten the Excalibur 2 sword on FF9 before...
That mean's reaching the last dungeon on FF9 in under 12 hours...FF4 is a cake walk especially when you know where the quick level up areas are. FF6, just get the gengj glove on two people...give one of them the master scroll(whatever it is called...it gives you 4xcut)...Now, that person attacks 8 times. Another person attacks twice. Equip another person with Dragoon Boots and Horns and they attack between 2 to 4 times. Then have One that person just chill and beat the !@#$% out of baddies with magic or heal your other characters....lol
FF7 is another that is easy to do a run through with, along with 8 and X. FF5 somewhat is but I do it a unique way where every one are ninjas and have learned X-Cut from the Hunter Class, then I just equip two weapons to each person and !@#$% smack the baddies for around 6000+ damage 32times when all four characters have finished attacking...lol
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XD I'm not willing to sit and watch 14 hours of video :P
Super Metroid can be beaten in less then an hour XD
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XD I'm not willing to sit and watch 14 hours of video :P
Super Metroid can be beaten in less then an hour XD
You would if it was a compilation video of the Metal Gear Solid Series...I know I !@#$% would...
Well, let me look into Metroid and see if I can get into it.
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oh hells yeah, Im in
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I also think I should post this too for those of you entering-
http://tasvideos.org/
Just check out their FAQs, etc
They have a crapload of speedrunning tips for y'all :p
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XD I'm not willing to sit and watch 14 hours of video :P
Super Metroid can be beaten in less then an hour XD
You serious? I think I beat it in like 4 hours... Yeah, I guess its plausible.
DAAAAANG. O_o But idk how to do Zsnes movie files. X_x
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I just beat kraid (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam/cool.gif)
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You should have done Mario Brothers 1, god knows a speed run would take like a half hour at most.
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mario bros takes like 5 mins, and it's quite easy to get each run exactly the same
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I guess I'll enter for fun like Mammy.
I've never speed ran this game, but I guess I have plenty of time to figure it out.
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...whatever. Anyways I've tried Super Metroid a couple times, but i always get stuck at the same spot.
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I'll upload what I've done tonight, might help some people (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam/kiss.gif)
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I was going to enter but then I started playing and realized that I suck at it.
We should have a NiGHTS into Dreams speedrun contest.
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I'm in,dog.
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Aww man, why can't it be Zero Mission, it's so much easier to get a ROM of. I can't enter because I'm moving and probably will miss the event, if I get setup soon I will.
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If anyone has problems finding the rom, PM me and I'll give you a link. I will not post it here.
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alrighty, here's the first 15 mins or so of my run:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/193636.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2168268608200986924&hl=en
mamwa, you should probably link to the snes emu that can record gameplay
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Well the only one I have personally is Zsnes :P
*points to users* GOOGLE lol
BTW I should also mention; if you're recording in chunks, it is okay to send multiple movie files from your run (like if you need to stop and continue later, etc)
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Well the only one I have personally is Zsnes :P
*points to users* GOOGLE lol
BTW I should also mention; if you're recording in chunks, it is okay to send multiple movie files from your run (like if you need to stop and continue later, etc)
Snes9x is much better...lol
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Well the only one I have personally is Zsnes :P
*points to users* GOOGLE lol
BTW I should also mention; if you're recording in chunks, it is okay to send multiple movie files from your run (like if you need to stop and continue later, etc)
Snes9x is much better...lol
Use it :P
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XD I'm not willing to sit and watch 14 hours of video :P
Super Metroid can be beaten in less then an hour XD
You serious? I think I beat it in like 4 hours... Yeah, I guess its plausible.
DAAAAANG. O_o But idk how to do Zsnes movie files. X_x
:P Just go to "Movie Opn" in the far right menu on the top, and then record movie
The latest Zsnes lets you export your movie... but anyway dont be afraid to record multiple movie files for the same run; realistically if you want to get it perfect, you're almost going to have to. Just make sure your continued run starts at the same position your last one ends, or else I wont count it :P
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yeah, anyone who doesn't know the best emu to use, go here (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a4cab70da7d24d9e2b564cf77bcf3d143e623a22b733f50d) and download "snes9x-1.51-improvement2-beta6-win32.zip" right at the bottom.
Then while playing super metroid, just map the save and load state keys to your joypad, then go file- Movie Record.
Then after you've recorded your run, open up the rom, then go file- Movie Play, and then record an AVI of it playing back.
Or just upload the SMV, everyone else with the emu and rom can play your SMV, plus they're tiny
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I'm going to post a speed run here- its not mine, but this is just to give you guys an example of what to expect :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXVA_RDzxss
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Would it be wrong of me to enter with what I have here (http://www.youtube.com/user/Cpadolf0)?
It feels wrong, but I'd like to.
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:P *see's .TakaM's advert brought along some professionals* lol
Anyway yeah the idea is to do one specifically for this contest within the time frame :P While it obviously wouldn't have the fine tuning and extra attention as a normal TAS speed run, it'd still be pretty nice to see one you do for this contest :P
My run will probably range from the 45 to 55 minute range, depending on what tools I use at my disposal... I'm limited to 3 keys at one time, so a lot of the glitches are off limits for me; I'm pretty much limited to mockball, kagoball, and a few others :P Although I'm not going to be able to sit and count frames for my run either... which kinda sucks, lol
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I'll enter!
I tried a speedrun last night at got a time of 1:11, but my zsnes movie file got screwed up.
I was planning on redoing it anyway.
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Anyway yeah the idea is to do one specifically for this contest within the time frame
Ok, maybe I'll do a lightweight TAS, only using slowdowns and rerecordds, no frameadvance except in some places. I think I could hit 00:30-00:27 in a day or two of work XD
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Anyway yeah the idea is to do one specifically for this contest within the time frame
Ok, maybe I'll do a lightweight TAS, only using slowdowns and rerecordds, no frameadvance except in some places. I think I could hit 00:30-00:27 in a day or two of work XD
Thats cheating though
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what's cheating?
TAS isn't cheating, that's just propaganda spread by traditional speedrunners (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam/tongue.gif)
and go easy Cpadolf, remember, no one here is a speedrunner, let alone tas'er (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam/tongue.gif)
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Anyway yeah the idea is to do one specifically for this contest within the time frame
Ok, maybe I'll do a lightweight TAS, only using slowdowns and rerecordds, no frameadvance except in some places. I think I could hit 00:30-00:27 in a day or two of work XD
Thats cheating though
No its not Ali; I'm going to quote something for you from another site-
Are tool-assisted speedruns cheated?
Cheating has two meanings:
* To deceive by trickery.
* To violate rules deliberately.
Arguably, we do cheat the games. The games have been programmed assuming that the player is a human who has humanly limits. We surpass those limits with tool-assistance.
For example, there are very few humans who can produce a 30 Hz autofire by rapidly bashing the B button, but in tool-assistance, it is trivial to do that. We also abuse many programming errors in the games.
But we do not cheat the audience. The makers of tool-assisted speedruns are very open at how they made the movies. There certainly is no deceiving taking part. It is the audience's responsibility to read and understand how these movies are made.
As for rules, tool-assisted speedruns fall under the rules of tool-assisted speedruns, not under the rules of non-assisted speedruns. The purpose of tool-assisted speedruns is different from regular speedruns and there is no competition between these two different kinds of runs, so the set of rules is not, and does not have to be, the same.
We try to keep the difference from the games themselves minimal. For example, our rules dictate that the movies we make must be of non-modified games. We do not crack and heck the games. Basically, the only thing we do is produce unexpected kind of input to the real games, as if a god were playing the game.
I am not asking for a non TAS speedrun. I'm asking for a speedrun in general, I dont care how its achieved, as long as the game has not been hacked or modified in any way.
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I had no idea what a TAS even is >_>
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and go easy Cpadolf, remember, no one here is a speedrunner, let alone tas'er
That is going easy... I'm both also, which makes me feel rather misplaced in this competition. Still it will be fun to see what I can create within a small timespan.
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I'll add ya to the competition roster then >:D
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I was watching your speed run preview .TakaM, awesome job upto Kraid. That was badass. :P
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I might still be able to complete this even without my PC---- my speedrun files are still intact :D so I just need to finish my run and copy those files to another PC and record the movie to AVI
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I haven't finished Super Metroid before (I always grew bored with it, to be honest. Perhaps when they release a Zero-Mission-esque version for the Nintendo DS?), but I guess I could give it a shot
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I got a run done, here (http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/63159899/Cpadolf-speedrun.smv) is the smv (emulator move file).
I decided against using frame advance and such things so this whole run is played at full speed, though with the help of rerecords of course. It looks pretty bad.
Emulator used: Snes9x-Improvement9.
Endtime 00:29 (00:29:37:26 to be exact) and 26 items collected. Time took to make, ~6-7 hours.
I dunno If I'll have time to convert it to .avi and upload it anywhere... We'll see.
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Please convert it so we can watch it on youtube or google video. :)
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I got a run done, here (http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/63159899/Cpadolf-speedrun.smv) is the smv (emulator move file).
I decided against using frame advance and such things so this whole run is played at full speed, though with the help of rerecords of course. It looks pretty bad.
Emulator used: Snes9x-Improvement9.
Endtime 00:29 (00:29:37:26 to be exact) and 26 items collected. Time took to make, ~6-7 hours.
I dunno If I'll have time to convert it to .avi and upload it anywhere... We'll see.
I was checking out your previous runs, very impressive :D
I'm actually quite surprised at the route you took, because initially it looks as if it would take more time to go that way, but you flew through lol I cant wait to see the run you made specifically for the contest ^_^
I'll check your full smv when I get my computer back up and running (HDD issues; I should have it fixed tonight)
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I restarted my run
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7784822162906223138&hl=en
(GT kept erroring)
I gave up trying to skip torizo (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam/tongue.gif)
don't know why it looks so !@#$% on googlevids this time, or why the sound went out of sync either..
here's the SMV if you want it (http://www.sendspace.com/file/tq2kwx)
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Daaammnn.. if only I could get a working recorder I'd do it. Oh well, good luck everyone!
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Ok, here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=712744521826414316) is the run on google video.
Also, if you like the video be sure to check out my youtube channel (http://youtube.com/user/Cpadolf0) for some much more technically impressive and visually pleasing runs.
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I'm sorry,but I'm out,because I'm going somewhere and I don't have anything to play it with. =(
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I'm sorry,but I'm out,because I'm going somewhere and I don't have anything to play it with. =(
bah thats a bummer dude; you know you could do a late submission just to show off :P but I cant count it for a prize :p
I personally am going to skip the torizo on my run. Just feels... needed
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I personally am going to skip the torizo on my run. Just feels... needed
Well good luck, it's not really easy. Like there is 0 pixels and 0 frames of margin of error... I mean even if you do it 100% right there is still only a 50% chance it will work because of randomness...And it is physically impossible without frame advance and practically impossible without a memory watcher. Just thought I'd let you know.
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Cpadolf, you go here? D: And Mamo, take his word of advice as well... did you see his SM run on tasvideos? :)
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Cpadolf, you go here? D: And Mamo, take his word of advice as well... did you see his SM run on tasvideos?
Well only because .TaKaM wrote in the SM thread about this little contest. If it is any fun here I might stay though :P
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I personally am going to skip the torizo on my run. Just feels... needed
Well good luck, it's not really easy. Like there is 0 pixels and 0 frames of margin of error... I mean even if you do it 100% right there is still only a 50% chance it will work because of randomness...And it is physically impossible without frame advance and practically impossible without a memory watcher. Just thought I'd let you know.
Yeah I know it lol I was going to invest quite a bit of time trying it; lol actually I almost got it today but I !@#$% it up (I got into the door... didnt have the movie recording -_-;;)... but yeah
And SoulRivers :P I am completely and totally aware of who he is XD And thats why officially I know he's won already lol
AND! Cpadolf :D We'd love it if you stuck around lol
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yeah, I tried a good 30 times in my run, I guess it would be a much more common trick if it were easier to do (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam/tongue.gif)
I think I got pretty close to making it though, not bad for plain old slow down
I've got the next 2 days off work, gonna try and finish my run (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam/smiley.gif)
and yah Cpadolf, stick around! we'll be sure to have more contests and you might like to contribute to a game here(http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam/wink.gif)
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And SoulRivers Look at me, I'm invisible! I am completely and totally aware of who he is Grin And thats why officially I know he's won already lol
Yay I'm famous XD
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I've seen yer runs, and they're awesome Cpadolf, I just recently started playing Super Metroid Redesign. I must say, it's the craziest Metroid heck I've ever played. >_> (Just beat Ridley in that today. Woo!)
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lolz I didnt finish my run... I was supposed to have it done yesterday but uh <_< oops lol now I really dont have time to do it before the 5th XD I did like the first 5 minutes of the game lol
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I finished my run.
I don't have enough disk space on my computer or a fast enough internet connection to upload an actual video, so it's just
a Snes9x movie file.
This I pretty much my first speedrun ever so I made some weird choices, and my whole run is in 15 different files x_x.
I realized after I finished that it's a bit annoying to watch since you have to load a new movie file every 5 minutes or so,
it also increases the file size quite a bit >_> So I apologize for that.
Clear time:
00:50
Recorded with Snes9X v1.51, the one Takam linked to in this topic.
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w00t :p
If you'd like I could splice those into 1 movie file later but yeah I'll be checking out the runs tomorrow night (I know its a day off, but I work inbetween days XD right now it is the 4th for me
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w00t :p
If you'd like I could splice those into 1 movie file later but yeah I'll be checking out the runs tomorrow night (I know its a day off, but I work inbetween days XD right now it is the 4th for me
That would be great. :D I couldn't figure out how to put them into one file.
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I'm going to start judging them tonight; basically off of the final time in the game (obviously); might have it done depending on how work goes tonight :P
Although I only have submissions from TakaM (via MSN), Cpadolf, and Knightmare lol so either way someones winning something :P
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Mammy, can you post em all in one post, all on youtube (or google video) when they are judged? It'd be nice to have em all orderly like that. :P
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yeah perhaps lol
Just to let you guys know!
I'm a lil pokey with judging these right now lol I havent really had time; but I swears I'll have em done tomorrow I think lol
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Yo,I'm back,and I'll do this as fast as I can.
EDIT:Oh man...I finally recognized the title... :'(
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Shoot I still need to judge Takas lol I'll check it out when I have more time lol sorry
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Congratulations Cpadolf for winning the competition!
Same for Knightmare for 2nd place and .TakaM for 3rd!
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Truth is I didn't finish it, here's what I did do:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ulz2xb
(my route is incredibly stupid in some parts (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam/grin.gif))
You can see towards the end (the last part is normal gameplay) that I got more and more casual with TASing.
Since I was running out of time my only real option was to just run it regularly, but that felt like I was wasting all my progress up until that point, so I kinda put off doing it.
Don't be mad at mamo, I kept promising I'd finish it etc.
anywho, I will finish my run properly for fun when I get back from America if anyone's interested.
(I'll also upload it in video form)
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Hahaha! All your rupees are belong to me >:D