ZFGC

Resources => Graphics => Topic started by: AleX_XelA on May 04, 2006, 06:50:10 pm

Title: ZFGC logo - Download now, and use forever! [Sticky?]
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 04, 2006, 06:50:10 pm
Hey guys, well I was thinking that since so many games are being produced in ZFGC, we should need a logo that would be put before the Title screen of each game. I would like it to resemble the N64 logo, why? Because Zelda is affiliated to Nintendo and the N64 logo is the coolest one. Basically, instead of having the N's, you'll need to make it ZFGC and animated as the original.

Some refs :

(http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/3585/thelegendofzelda109xs.th.jpg) (http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thelegendofzelda109xs.jpg)(http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/8231/thelegendofzelda114lb.th.jpg) (http://img325.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thelegendofzelda114lb.jpg)

Size should be 32x32, if you can't make it then 40x40 would be fine.

Good luck!



Edit : Request fulfilled, Thanks a lot to Atrius for his attempt on making the logo, special thanks to Venus for re-doing it!

Here are the different versions :

Use any of the below versions of the logo if you're making a 2D game.

The original 512x512 by Venus (0.5 Mb) (http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k199/Veenuus/zfgc_logo512.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/Kleaver/zfgc_logo128.gif)
A resized version by Kleaver (128x128)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/zfgc64_high.gif)
Another resized version by dantheman (64x64)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/ZidaneTribal113/ZFGC_Logo_edit.gif)
Soulja's recolored version, with thicker outlines (64x64)

If you want to tweak it yourself, here is the zip file that contains all the frames :

Zip file containing the 72 frames of the animation (56 KB) (http://www.zfgc.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1994.0;attach=761)

Use the below logo, if you're making a 3D game.

Finally, defect had a go at it, it doesn't really fit the style I wanted, but I encourage you to use it if you're making a 3D game.

defect's big 3D version of the logo, different from Venus' (.avi file - 4 Mb) (http://www.ledesign.com.au/files/cube.avi)



So there, you have a huge variety of logos to choose from, although I'd recommend using Soulja's one, because the colors are really nice. I would like to remind you that the sole point of this logo, is to advertise ZFGC, which means you might want to add "Zelda Fan Game Central - www.zfgc.com" next to the logo.

Here is an example of how it would look on a LTTP styled game (256x224) :

(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/6878/showhn2.png)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Infinitus on May 04, 2006, 07:06:32 pm
Not a bad idea, but limiting it to 32x32(or 40x40) is a pretty bad idea, you never no someone may wish to do a banner image including text (like LOGO - Nintendo). Best to allow people to use any size that will fit in 256x224 (probably the smallest res most zelda game designers use)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 04, 2006, 07:10:30 pm
Well that's why I wanted to limit it, if it's too big, it would only be used for banners IMO. I want to keep it rather small.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Infinitus on May 04, 2006, 07:34:09 pm
Well that's why I wanted to limit it, if it's too big, it would only be used for banners IMO. I want to keep it rather small.

I didn't mean banner as in website/forum, i mean banner as in the width is longer than the height. Why not just limit it to 256x224, that will work for everyone and will give people a bigger range of images todo.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 04, 2006, 07:46:06 pm
Well because it's harder to make an animation out of a 256x224 image and it would take all the screen for the game, whereas the logo should be as the N64 logo, so that behind it would stand "Zelda Fan Game Central". Meh, I'll make a picture :

(http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/8224/show8dc.png)

Something similar to that, except the logo should be properly sprited.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: araknidude on May 05, 2006, 12:02:21 am
Pretty cool idea, but everyone might not use it. Get an admin/high mod to endorse it. Start a fundraiser, get it sponsored. Yeah, yeah, then get it copyrighted! Cut, publish and print it. Way to go.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Piers on May 05, 2006, 12:43:30 am
I'm usually good at these type of things but this time I'm stumped. I can't figure out how I'd do this.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Pyro on May 05, 2006, 02:09:39 am
Pretty cool idea, but everyone might not use it. Get an admin/high mod to endorse it. Start a fundraiser, get it sponsored. Yeah, yeah, then get it copyrighted! Cut, publish and print it. Way to go.
Lol. You forgot about the part about getting sued by a bunch of companies for use of their property...dude u cant copywrite anything ZFGC or ZFGC related...xD

I made these for fun
(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/308/zfgc3ez.png)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: TomPel on May 05, 2006, 01:27:01 pm
I could propably try spriting one, since i think this isn't a bad idea. And pretty nice Pyro *thumbs up*
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 05, 2006, 04:39:51 pm
Thanks TomPel! I know this is tough, but it's probably good to recognize all games made in ZFGC!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: mit on May 05, 2006, 07:32:17 pm
If someone can make some nice 32x32 ZFGC letters for me, I could put them into this, which I just wrote:

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b301/kousou2/ZFGC_LOGO_3D.gif)

Obviously we could resize that, or change the camera angle, or anything, it's just a .gm6 file.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 05, 2006, 07:34:30 pm
Holy Cow! That's nice, but could you do that with 3D letters? And remove the white part?
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: TomPel on May 06, 2006, 06:29:22 pm
Holy Cow! That's nice, but could you do that with 3D letters? And remove the white part?
Yes, that would be nice. And propably also change the font-color. Nice work mit *thumbs up*
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Riisnæs on May 06, 2006, 07:22:59 pm
I'll give it a try in Blender!  :)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: joeshmo on May 08, 2006, 01:57:12 am
Blendered. Note: Not a gif. Currently a quicktime, Ill try and change it.

http://www.marvfam.com/files/0001_0030.mov

Yes, I know the animation is messed up. I WILL FIX IT TOMMOROW.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 08, 2006, 11:29:31 am
joeshmo, I really appreciate it, but my original idea was to have it in 2D. Actually keep working on yours, so that every 3D game gets a logo aswell! Meh keep it up!

Mit, did you get the chance to work on yours?

Keep it up both of you!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Limey on May 08, 2006, 11:32:50 am
Well the N64's logo is 3d...

I like joeshmo's :P I might try making one as well (2d not 3d)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on May 08, 2006, 12:09:16 pm
Nice idea, but it really should look like the N64 more.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: joeshmo on May 08, 2006, 07:19:57 pm
Nice idea, but it really should look like the N64 more.

It can't. ZFGC has curved letters in it, not allowing the same flat effect.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Sesshoumaru Cian on May 14, 2006, 01:41:11 pm
I made one, but it's not really N64ish.
(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3060/zfgcbanner3ns.th.png) (http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zfgcbanner3ns.png)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 14, 2006, 01:52:49 pm
Sesshoumaru Cian, that's good looking but not exactly what I was asking for. I just need the logo, as I will add the LTTP text behind it. Thanks for the help though!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: pxl_moon (dotyue) on May 14, 2006, 02:53:47 pm
i tried... didnt turned out well...
(http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/2522/zgfc642zg.th.png) (http://img451.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zgfc642zg.png)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on May 14, 2006, 03:00:18 pm
Wow yue, thats not bad at all.. but the edges look a bit rough.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Atrius on May 14, 2006, 03:50:29 pm
Its kinda hard to do the G, and C in a logo like that, so I did one with just a golden Z.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/logo.gif)

If you like it I'll try to fix where you can see the seam from the diagnol part of the Z to the top and bottoms.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 14, 2006, 03:54:13 pm
Atrius, how did you manage that? Great work! Could you use the original colors too please? Also, if you could resize it too, it would be neat! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: TomPel on May 14, 2006, 03:57:16 pm
Wow, very good concept yue, but it needs something... Mind if i try to improve it?
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 14, 2006, 04:03:11 pm
Wait, how could I have missed Yue's attempt? It's pretty darn good! That's exactly what I was asking! But it would be even better if it could be animated! Otherwise it's great, except that the "Z" is written backwards. How about putting all the letters in one cube? I know this is hard, but if someone makes it, it will pwn!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Atrius on May 14, 2006, 11:19:45 pm
Something more like this-(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/logo2small.gif)?

I can get it for you pretty much any size you would want it.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on May 14, 2006, 11:20:47 pm
Something more like this-(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/logo2small.gif)?

HOLY !@#$%!
We should make every part like change into another letter. Like the Z comes up, and while it turns it morhps into F, G, C...yeah that will look sweet.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Piers on May 14, 2006, 11:23:16 pm
Something more like this-(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/logo2small.gif)?

I can get it for you pretty much any size you would want it.

Nice. But I agree with kleaver it should change letters. Also you should tilt it a bit on an angle so it dosen't look to streigt.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Atrius on May 14, 2006, 11:29:54 pm
I could tilt it, but I doubt I could get it to morph.  I don't even really want to try to model a G, and C because of the curve, but getting them to morph into each other, and make it look good would be insane.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: joeshmo on May 14, 2006, 11:48:18 pm
I could tilt it, but I doubt I could get it to morph.  I don't even really want to try to model a G, and C because of the curve, but getting them to morph into each other, and make it look good would be insane.
You have to do stickletters, get rid of the curve:
C would be like:
 _
|_
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: DanTheMan on May 15, 2006, 01:18:09 am
guys, keep in mind that this is going to be added to the intro of a game.  It needs to be SHORT!  3-4 seconds max.  Having it morph from one character to the next would take too much time.

Personally, I think just having the spinning Z with "Zelda Fan Game Central" text next to it would be perfect.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 15, 2006, 10:33:36 am
Atrius, that is WICKED! WOW nice job! Are you sure you can't do anything to try and make it ZFGC instead of just a "Z"?

Dantheman, you are right, but what if someone needs to load graphics? It has to do at least one complete rotation, and the programmer can decide whether he waits for the full rotation or just show part of it. Anyhow, Atrius, as piers said, you should change the angle, check the refs I posted and try to reproduce that angle.

KEEP IT UP!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: A Storm in the Desert on May 15, 2006, 10:44:13 am
i tried... didnt turned out well...
(http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/2522/zgfc642zg.th.png) (http://img451.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zgfc642zg.png)

Atrius, look at yue's work. That's about what we need.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: aab on May 15, 2006, 03:03:08 pm
The 3d one could be rendered orthographically with flat shading to look just like a 2d sprited one, only really easy to animate!

If making a 3d one, make sure to converge vertex normals at the seam between the top bar of each z, and the horizontal bar.
Then, structure some realistic light interpolation accross the surface with non-beziered subdivision (cut faces into smaller quads withought changing shape), and reinforce all the edges. -ask if further explanation needed.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: master414 on May 15, 2006, 06:55:57 pm
lol maded in 5 min:P
(http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/992/nintendo7un.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Atrius on May 15, 2006, 09:16:04 pm
Is this the kind of angle you want?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/logosample1.gif)

I didn't feel like going through the long process of making it animated in case it wasn't.  I'll get an example of what I think aab is talking about after I sort out my back-faces.  I was too lazy to get them right so I just turned off back-face culling.

EDIT:

Alright here's one with flat shading using an orthopedic viewpoint, and a black outline.  The code I did to do the black outline isn't perfect, and is unbearably slow when doing a larger image though.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)


Oh, also I could make it ZFGC instead of just Z, but it would take me quite a while, and the C, and G wouldn't be round.


I hope these turn out right... They would be kinda squared like this
___
|
|__

___
|  _
|__|
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 16, 2006, 05:13:09 pm
Atrius, this is turning out extremely well! And don't worry about the squareness, that's what I was aiming for! And if you could improve that angle a little bit more, it would kick-ass! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Infinitus on May 16, 2006, 06:17:05 pm
That looks awesome Atirus. :0
Also, don't you mean orthagonal not orthopedic O_O.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Atrius on May 16, 2006, 10:54:17 pm
Nah, it's definitaly a bone surgery type of viewpoint  :D

I tried to match the angle of the N64 logo as best I could, and I decided to test something new, I did one with and without it though:

Without: (http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2633/logoangled3yi.gif)

With: (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8356/logoangledlm3lq.gif)


Are you sure you want me to add FGC to it?  It'll probably take at least two days because of how slow I am.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on May 16, 2006, 11:05:42 pm
The angle doesnt look really good, its a few degrees strecthed
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 17, 2006, 02:30:30 pm
I agree with Kleaver, but keep them, is it possible for you to work on two versions?

Having this one as a 2d/sprited version for 2d games :

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)

and having this one for 3d games but with the angle of the previous one :

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8356/logoangledlm3lq.gif)

Anyhow, yeah try to add those letters even if it takes you a week or more! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on May 17, 2006, 02:39:50 pm
Yes, add those lettters, then its gonna look very sweet! I was surpirsed you could even do it in two days XD
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Krynn on May 17, 2006, 04:56:20 pm
those look really good!

Good idea alex!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Atrius on May 17, 2006, 09:09:59 pm
I'm really confused about the angle now.  I did it as close to the N64 logo as I could get it see-
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/compare.gif)
So you want the one I had previously though?

The angle in the 2dish styled one is partially affected by the fact that its rendered Orthographically

This one was actually rendered at the exact same angle, but not orthographically:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/logosample1.gif)

The difference is that, Orthographically, things don't shrink when they're further away, they just appear higher, so which would you prefer?


I'll start working on the FGC though I guess, really I don't have to make 2 versions, I can use the same one for both by just changing a few things and I already have something set up to do it automatically.

/me looks at all the images and feels bad for people with slow connections.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 17, 2006, 09:45:05 pm
Well Atrius, you are right! Keep the 2d-ish one at the same angle and just add FGC and keep the 3d-ish one with the other angle and add FGC! Your work is great! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on May 18, 2006, 01:00:36 am
Question, why didnt we just get the N64 logo and turn it 90 degrees :P
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: DanTheMan on May 18, 2006, 02:21:49 am
Question, why didnt we just get the N64 logo and turn it 90 degrees :P

It would look odd, and it would spin in the wrong direction.  Example:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/64n1.gif)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on May 18, 2006, 02:23:20 am
Question, why didnt we just get the N64 logo and turn it 90 degrees :P

It would look odd, and it would spin in the wrong direction.  Example:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/64n1.gif)

HOLY CRAP!

Where did you get that? O_o
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: abcgum09 on May 18, 2006, 02:26:46 am
rofl it was from google probly then turned.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Krynn on May 18, 2006, 02:50:10 am
;P Some of these people here are skilled at computer graphics, I am not suprised people can whip up stuff like that.  8)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: DanTheMan on May 18, 2006, 03:59:08 pm
rofl it was from google probly then turned.

Yeah, that's basically it.  I just did a Google image search for "N64 animated," found one, uploaded it to Photobucket, and used Photobucket's rotating function to rotate it 90 degrees.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Pyrodragon on May 23, 2006, 01:16:35 pm
I agree with Kleaver, but keep them, is it possible for you to work on two versions?

Having this one as a 2d/sprited version for 2d games :

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)

and having this one for 3d games but with the angle of the previous one :

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8356/logoangledlm3lq.gif)

Anyhow, yeah try to add those letters even if it takes you a week or more! Keep it up!

What are you using to make these? (The shiny one)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: ???Azkridth??? on May 23, 2006, 04:23:02 pm
I agree with Kleaver, but keep them, is it possible for you to work on two versions?

Having this one as a 2d/sprited version for 2d games :

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)

and having this one for 3d games but with the angle of the previous one :

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8356/logoangledlm3lq.gif)

Anyhow, yeah try to add those letters even if it takes you a week or more! Keep it up!

What are you using to make these? (The shiny one)

Yeah, those are pretty good! =D  Ill give it a try too when I get home, and then export it as an animated .GIF if I can.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Ryu Kage on May 23, 2006, 07:33:17 pm
I agree with Kleaver, but keep them, is it possible for you to work on two versions?

Having this one as a 2d/sprited version for 2d games :

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)

and having this one for 3d games but with the angle of the previous one :

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8356/logoangledlm3lq.gif)

Anyhow, yeah try to add those letters even if it takes you a week or more! Keep it up!
wow that looks pretty good
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Atrius on May 23, 2006, 10:06:55 pm
Well... Believe it or not, i'm using GameMaker 6.1.

I completely forgot about this cause i've been pretty busy lately, I need to start working on the FGC...  :(
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: zero koll on May 24, 2006, 06:03:40 am
Question, why didnt we just get the N64 logo and turn it 90 degrees :P

It would look odd, and it would spin in the wrong direction.  Example:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/64n1.gif)

HOLY CRAP!

Where did you get that? O_o





Ehhm is the Nintendo but rotated in wrong diarection...
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Pyrodragon on May 24, 2006, 01:12:06 pm
Well... Believe it or not, i'm using GameMaker 6.1.

I completely forgot about this cause i've been pretty busy lately, I need to start working on the FGC...  :(
Game Maker eh? I didn't know it could do that...of course I never really used it all that much. I could get it to spin using Dream Maker (what I use), but I couldn't get the shine on it. That'd have to be a separate spriter entirely.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 24, 2006, 01:13:17 pm
Well... Believe it or not, i'm using GameMaker 6.1.

I completely forgot about this cause i've been pretty busy lately, I need to start working on the FGC...  :(

I don't expect you to be working on this 24/7, take your time!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Pyro on May 24, 2006, 01:26:07 pm
Question, why didnt we just get the N64 logo and turn it 90 degrees :P

It would look odd, and it would spin in the wrong direction.  Example:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/64n1.gif)

HOLY CRAP!

Where did you get that? O_o





Ehhm is the Nintendo but rotated in wrong diarection...

He knows >_> He was talkin about where did he get the image from...>_>

Quote
Game Maker eh? I didn't know it could do that...of course I never really used it all that much. I could get it to spin using Dream Maker (what I use), but I couldn't get the shine on it. That'd have to be a separate spriter entirely.

Thing is, Dream Maker is a certain format xD its like a weird fileformat, I used to work with it =/ So I doubt you can upload it anyways..
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Soulja on May 24, 2006, 10:17:36 pm
That sprite-looking one is sweet! Will this logo be used for all ZFGC games or just Zelda ones?
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on May 24, 2006, 10:19:21 pm
That sprite-looking one is sweet! Will this logo be used for all ZFGC games or just Zelda ones?

Why just Zelda? ZFGC is a real game factory, it is meant for all games, but then it's up to the creator to add it or not. I hope this gets used since it pwns everything!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on May 26, 2006, 01:10:53 am
Question, why didnt we just get the N64 logo and turn it 90 degrees :P

It would look odd, and it would spin in the wrong direction.  Example:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/64n1.gif)

HOLY CRAP!

Where did you get that? O_o
Ehhm is the Nintendo but rotated in wrong diarection...

OMG? Its the Nintendo64 logo? OMG!!! I only had a N64 for 6 years I couldnt have known!!! >_>

Now how are those other letters coming along? ;D
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Krynn on May 26, 2006, 04:04:46 pm
So is the logo going to be animated or just a logo. :S?
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on June 07, 2006, 03:39:27 pm
I'm sorry to bump this, but I'm just wondering how far is Atrius with it?
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Krynn on June 07, 2006, 04:56:55 pm
;S seems kinda dead. Is he working on it?
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Atrius on June 07, 2006, 06:35:49 pm
;S seems kinda dead. Is he working on it?

 :-[  Not really, I've been kinda distracted lately.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Krynn on June 09, 2006, 02:19:18 pm
;S seems kinda dead. Is he working on it?

 :-[  Not really, I've been kinda distracted lately.
Try and get to it though, its kinda important.  :-\
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on July 12, 2006, 09:22:59 pm
I know I'm gravedigging, but since z3 is starting soon, I thought this was important, Atrius did you have the time to work on it?
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Penguin on July 13, 2006, 02:20:57 am
lmao... i was looking for this! ya.. please continue it! I WILL USE IT!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on July 13, 2006, 01:57:29 pm
What about my z3 logos? XD

*hides*
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on July 13, 2006, 08:57:56 pm
What about my z3 logos? XD

*hides*

They are awesome Kleaver, but this logo will be used further, in a more general way, not only on a special event!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Atrius on July 13, 2006, 09:10:04 pm
Er...  I like it better with just the Z  ;D

I completely forgot about it, and I probably won't be able to get around to doing it any time soon  :'(

Here are the latest ones in case you can't find them. If you need them larger, I could probably manage that.

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8356/logoangledlm3lq.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)

Hmm... I probably have some things set differently than in the second one now though.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on July 13, 2006, 09:14:45 pm
Er...  I like it better with just the Z  ;D

I completely forgot about it, and I probably won't be able to get around to doing it any time soon  :'(

Here are the latest ones in case you can't find them. If you need them larger, I could probably manage that.

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8356/logoangledlm3lq.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)

Hmm... I probably have some things set differently than in the second one now though.

Both of them own sooo much! Please finish them! It would be nice to have this logo up and running!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AoDC on July 14, 2006, 02:40:17 am
I would like one for my game, but they all have certain issues (angle, detail, meh). I'm just going to put the Z3 one in mine.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Penguin on July 14, 2006, 01:15:01 pm
Er...  I like it better with just the Z  ;D

I completely forgot about it, and I probably won't be able to get around to doing it any time soon  :'(

Here are the latest ones in case you can't find them. If you need them larger, I could probably manage that.

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8356/logoangledlm3lq.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)

Hmm... I probably have some things set differently than in the second one now though.
can u make it 3 times bigger? thanks!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Venus on July 14, 2006, 01:56:51 pm
one of them has a weird rotation >.>

I could help finish them. If I get the source code for the current (well, I can do it faster if I have something to start from, but it is alright from scratch if I have to) and detailed instructions of what you want (and maybe some kind of quick sketch or illustration).
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on July 14, 2006, 05:53:14 pm
one of them has a weird rotation >.>

I could help finish them. If I get the source code for the current (well, I can do it faster if I have something to start from, but it is alright from scratch if I have to) and detailed instructions of what you want (and maybe some kind of quick sketch or illustration).

Check the first post, all the info is there.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Venus on July 14, 2006, 06:13:27 pm
one of them has a weird rotation >.>

I could help finish them. If I get the source code for the current (well, I can do it faster if I have something to start from, but it is alright from scratch if I have to) and detailed instructions of what you want (and maybe some kind of quick sketch or illustration).

Check the first post, all the info is there.

well, I understand it that far. Isn't that what Atrius already has done? I meant more like how you want me to add the other letters... Should they all be one unit that rotates around between "FG" (i.e. it would be a "long cube" with all letters in a row) or individual and rotate around their own center or all letters in one cube?

And I don't understand aab explaination on how to make the reflecting effects, but I can make it cartoonish...
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on July 14, 2006, 06:27:59 pm
one of them has a weird rotation >.>

I could help finish them. If I get the source code for the current (well, I can do it faster if I have something to start from, but it is alright from scratch if I have to) and detailed instructions of what you want (and maybe some kind of quick sketch or illustration).

Check the first post, all the info is there.

well, I understand it that far. Isn't that what Atrius already has done? I meant more like how you want me to add the other letters... Should they all be one unit that rotates around between "FG" (i.e. it would be a "long cube" with all letters in a row) or individual and rotate around their own center or all letters in one cube?

And I don't understand aab explaination on how to make the reflecting effects, but I can make it cartoonish...

Well the very first idea I had, was similar to this :

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)

But! You need to add "FCG", every letter is a side of the truncated cube. I don't know how to explain this better... Instead of having 4 Zs, have ZFGC.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Venus on July 14, 2006, 06:34:02 pm
one of them has a weird rotation >.>

I could help finish them. If I get the source code for the current (well, I can do it faster if I have something to start from, but it is alright from scratch if I have to) and detailed instructions of what you want (and maybe some kind of quick sketch or illustration).

Check the first post, all the info is there.

well, I understand it that far. Isn't that what Atrius already has done? I meant more like how you want me to add the other letters... Should they all be one unit that rotates around between "FG" (i.e. it would be a "long cube" with all letters in a row) or individual and rotate around their own center or all letters in one cube?

And I don't understand aab explaination on how to make the reflecting effects, but I can make it cartoonish...

Well the very first idea I had, was similar to this :

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)

But! You need to add "FCG", every letter is a side of the truncated cube. I don't know how to explain this better... Instead of having 4 Zs, have ZFGC.

Got it. I will make it from scratch in C++/Qt/OpenGL.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on July 14, 2006, 06:36:20 pm
one of them has a weird rotation >.>

I could help finish them. If I get the source code for the current (well, I can do it faster if I have something to start from, but it is alright from scratch if I have to) and detailed instructions of what you want (and maybe some kind of quick sketch or illustration).

Check the first post, all the info is there.

well, I understand it that far. Isn't that what Atrius already has done? I meant more like how you want me to add the other letters... Should they all be one unit that rotates around between "FG" (i.e. it would be a "long cube" with all letters in a row) or individual and rotate around their own center or all letters in one cube?

And I don't understand aab explaination on how to make the reflecting effects, but I can make it cartoonish...

Well the very first idea I had, was similar to this :

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)

But! You need to add "FCG", every letter is a side of the truncated cube. I don't know how to explain this better... Instead of having 4 Zs, have ZFGC.

Got it. I will make it from scratch in C++/Qt/OpenGL.

That sounds nice :D Make sure you post the progress, so that feedback and corrections will be easier to change.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Venus on July 14, 2006, 07:07:24 pm
one of them has a weird rotation >.>

I could help finish them. If I get the source code for the current (well, I can do it faster if I have something to start from, but it is alright from scratch if I have to) and detailed instructions of what you want (and maybe some kind of quick sketch or illustration).

Check the first post, all the info is there.

well, I understand it that far. Isn't that what Atrius already has done? I meant more like how you want me to add the other letters... Should they all be one unit that rotates around between "FG" (i.e. it would be a "long cube" with all letters in a row) or individual and rotate around their own center or all letters in one cube?

And I don't understand aab explaination on how to make the reflecting effects, but I can make it cartoonish...

Well the very first idea I had, was similar to this :

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/AtriusV/Random%20Screens/2d_logosample.gif)

But! You need to add "FCG", every letter is a side of the truncated cube. I don't know how to explain this better... Instead of having 4 Zs, have ZFGC.

Got it. I will make it from scratch in C++/Qt/OpenGL.

That sounds nice :D Make sure you post the progress, so that feedback and corrections will be easier to change.

Will do. Just need to find a good way to save the animation. Because, well, it's easy to record the images as a huge bunch of PNGs, but I can't put it together as an animation (except if I import them in the GIMP one and one by hand and then save them but that would be ridiculous +_+)
I might need to make it a MNG (well, at least not GIF), since I'm on Linux.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on July 14, 2006, 07:44:04 pm
Will do. Just need to find a good way to save the animation. Because, well, it's easy to record the images as a huge bunch of PNGs, but I can't put it together as an animation (except if I import them in the GIMP one and one by hand and then save them but that would be ridiculous +_+)
I might need to make it a MNG (well, at least not GIF), since I'm on Linux.

Well the file format shouldn't be a problem, as long as there is a way to convert it back to GIF. I doubt Game Maker (since that's the most commonly used tool to create games here), supports MNG, if it doesn't support PNG correctly >_>. Do your best!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Venus on July 15, 2006, 03:53:34 pm
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k199/Veenuus/zfgc_logo1.png)

Have done this so far:
*Set up graphics (you could say it's a simple 3D engine ;) ).
*Change constants in the file will change the behavious. I can change width, height and how many frames (smoothness of the rotation)
*Record the graphics to PNG files in a folder. The frames are called frame#.png.
*Made a model with letters ZFGC as simple sides on an "invisible" 3D cube.
*Make the letters 3D (make the parts of the letters inside the cube, to give them depth).
*Color (can't make it shine, sorry).
*Change the margin around the logo so it fits perfectly.

TODO:
-Black outlines
-Some automationprocess to combine the .png files into an animation (and also during that, make the white background be transparent). If I can't make this, I will have to add them one by one with my own hand... and I'm aiming to use 72 frames (but it might be less if the file is too big or I do have to make them an animation by hand)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on July 15, 2006, 04:00:35 pm
Now this looks amazing! Don't forget to make it multiple-size-ish, because that could be too big for a 2d game, and too small for a full screen 3d game. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Venus on July 17, 2006, 01:57:20 pm
Updated!

The letters are all 3D now, and all colo(u)red. Now I just need to make black lines for outlines.

lol, the source code for the program (as you probably know I make this by my own programming and not with a modelling program) is already 700 lines. 500+ of them is code to draw all polygons xD

Sorry, no pic this time (it looks completely ridiculous without outlines :P)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on July 17, 2006, 07:03:02 pm
Updated!

The letters are all 3D now, and all colo(u)red. Now I just need to make black lines for outlines.

lol, the source code for the program (as you probably know I make this by my own programming and not with a modelling program) is already 700 lines. 500+ of them is code to draw all polygons xD

Sorry, no pic this time (it looks completely ridiculous without outlines :P)

Good news! I didn't know it would take 700 lines to make this... Nevertheless good job! I shall expect them within days I hope! :D Keep it up!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: mit on July 17, 2006, 07:17:51 pm
Quote
Some automationprocess to combine the .png files into an animation
Adobe ImageReady (which I have) can do that in one click. Zip the files and send them to me if you like.

Also the ones that I made, and Atrius made, were done in Game Maker through code because it easily uses DirectX's features, so you can get shineyness pretty easily. Meh.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on July 19, 2006, 05:11:23 pm
Holy crap Venus this looks nice. Ive always wanted to have the logo all 4 letters in the cube. Cant wait to see it spinning :D
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Venus on July 19, 2006, 06:48:29 pm
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k199/Veenuus/zfgc_logo2.png)

I have made most of the outlines now so it doesn't look weird anymore, so here's a pic.
Only the G left to make outlines on (lucky it is there on the backside so it's uglyness doesn't show up in the pic :P).
It'll be finished tomorrow.

Thanks Kleaver ;D
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Venus on July 20, 2006, 06:29:36 pm
Sorry for the double post but if I just edited my last post the update maybe wouldn't be noticed.

Here's the final result, a 512x512 at 72 frames with transparent background (linked because it is 0.5 MiB)
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k199/Veenuus/zfgc_logo512.gif

If you need it smaller, simply resize it. Depending on how you game works you should use different resizing methods. If your game is very pixelated I recommend using a technique that doesn't make the colors "smooth" around the outlines (i.e. "smart" resizing techniques).
Because of the nature of the logo, you can easily change any color to another color, e.g. you can make the yellow a bit lighter and such if you want to (just use a replace color tool). You can even try to make some light effects to make it look shiny ;D

If you really really really need a new render in another size (i.e. because a simple resize of the original 5122 won't be good for you) just email me and I'll reply with a zip file with your requested frames in the attachments (or if it is a really popular request I'll just upload it somewhere). The frames will be a series of PNG files, and they will have white background, not transparent (then it's up to you to make it a GIF and such by yourself).

Btw, I'm not going to touch the code for this again... I'm tired of it -_- (it should be finished anyway)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on July 20, 2006, 07:11:08 pm
Nice man...very nice...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/Kleaver/zfgc_logo128.gif)
Heres a smaller one.

It could use some more shiny-nes like the N64 :D
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Fox on July 20, 2006, 07:12:45 pm
(>'_')> Who rocks?
<('_'<) Kleaver rocks!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Limey on July 20, 2006, 07:16:37 pm
(>'_')> Who rocks?
<('_'<) Kleaver rocks!

Venus made it, kleaver just resized it XD

GJ Venus n__n
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on July 20, 2006, 07:35:21 pm
(>'_')> Who rocks?
<('_'<) Kleaver rocks!

Venus made it, kleaver just resized it XD

Shhhhh  :D

This would look great at the beginning of fangames ^_^
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on July 21, 2006, 11:32:07 am
This is AWESOME!! Thanks a lot Venus :D Could you just release a 64x64 version please? That would pwn! I urge everyone to use this!
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: DanTheMan on July 21, 2006, 06:51:59 pm
This wasn't a single resize, but it should work fairly well.  I used Photobucket's resizing features first to resize it to 256x256 and then to 64x64

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/zfgc_logo64.gif)

EDIT:  hm, I see that the transparency now has a few issues.  Darn.  Perhaps I could use a combination of Game Maker and Paint to fix this.

EDIT 2:  It turns out that Game Maker worked the best, since it could resize the gif by itself.  I then had to open it up in Microsoft GIF Animator and select each frame of the animation in order to pick the transparency color to use.  Very tedius.  The program called Pixie was very helpful here, as it allowed me to see the exact HTML color code of the background, which helped when trying to pick the right color out of a 256 color palette. 

I was planning to export it as a strip, open the strip with paint and resize it, then import it back into Game Maker, but when I tried to export it as a strip, it told me that there wasn't enough space to do that.  I've got 8 GB left on my hard drive... perhaps it was the fact that it was a bitmap.  Anyway, this one seems to work, although there is a slight issue.  It no longer has a simple 7 color palette.  In order to make it look more pleasing to the eye when shrunk down, it now uses all 256 colors that GIF allows for.  In essence, recoloring it would be nearly impossible.  You could recolor the original and then resize it the way I did I guess.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/zfgc64_high.gif)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: defect on July 23, 2006, 01:16:15 am
Hey guys, I've noticed you are pretty keen do get a nice looking ZFGC cube together,
so i sat down and whipped one up.

If you have trouble making your gifs from this avi  ill post all the frames in tga format or
something so you can do what you want with them.

http://www.ledesign.com.au/files/cube.avi (http://www.ledesign.com.au/files/cube.avi) Right click and save target as.

Hope its what you were after.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: DanTheMan on July 23, 2006, 01:46:11 am
Hey, that's pretty good!  A bit large perhaps, but very good indeed.  I am able to open it up in Microsoft GIF Animator fine.  The only issue is that I had to delete every other frame so that it would run at a good speed while at 5 fps (the minimun that Internet Explorer will show).  Then again, if this is for a game, I'm not sure if the 5 fps limit would apply.  Oh well.  It's still awesome.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: defect on July 23, 2006, 01:55:58 am
I made it large enough to cater for people who simply want a big version.
I hope it can scale down without losing too much detail.

Is the shape and color okay?

If it needs tweaking just let me know.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Kleaver on July 23, 2006, 09:24:52 am
Looks nice, but the colors seem a bit too light. I like them darker.

Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Retro on July 23, 2006, 04:40:49 pm
Good job man I love that font to!

http://www.dafont.com/3d-let.font
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Venus on July 25, 2006, 08:09:31 pm
Here is a zip with 72 frames of a 642 version, should neither look blurry or have outlines disappear (I hope).
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Soulja on July 25, 2006, 08:23:52 pm
Where's the link?
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: King Tetiro on July 25, 2006, 08:25:39 pm
That's a point, where's the link?
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Venus on July 25, 2006, 08:50:54 pm
It's attached ::)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: DanTheMan on July 25, 2006, 09:43:52 pm
The Dark Blue theme doesn't show attachments, which explains the confusion.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Venus on July 25, 2006, 10:40:36 pm
OK, here is the direct link to the attachment: http://www.zfgc.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1994.0;attach=761 (http://www.zfgc.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1994.0;attach=761)
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: Soulja on July 25, 2006, 11:45:54 pm
gif time!

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/ZidaneTribal113/ZFGC_Logo_edit.gif)

I also edited the palette a little.
Title: Re: Request : ZFGC logo - Isometric Challenge!
Post by: AleX_XelA on August 06, 2006, 01:43:18 pm
Thanks a lot to you guys for making this awesome logo, and everyone check the first post (http://www.zfgc.com/index.php/topic,1994.0.html)!
Title: Re: ZFGC logo - Download now, and use forever! [Sticky?]
Post by: Kleaver on August 07, 2006, 05:50:40 pm
Yeah looks really nice :D

Finally we have a good log ^_^

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