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ZFGC.com => Feedback => Topic started by: Nintendo Maniac 64 on June 26, 2008, 08:22:50 pm
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CURRENT STATUS
Well, I figured out a way around it, but technically the problem still exists... maybe it's just a Firefox + SMF issue? (doesn't happen on here in Opera or on other forums in Firefox) So I'll rename the topic appropriately in case someone else has this issue in the future.
HA! I FIGURED A WAY AROUND IT!. Have it loop, but only twice with the 2nd frame at 99999ms. That way when it jumps back to the first frame, the animation isn't actually complete and will continue animating to the 2nd frame as normal! daaaaa Naaaaa NAAAAA NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
First relevant post:
http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?topic=28805.msg348601#msg348601
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OLD ISSUES
It seems that my APNG avatar is up to its old habits again, even though I've upload it directly to ZFGC. It can't be going back to the first frame from resizing since there IS no resizing... I don't know if this is just a fluke that's only occurring to me or what but just like before, it's only happening here. -_- *sigh...*
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I can officially say that the resizing of avatars is making my avatar jump back to it's first frame and freeze in Firefox 3 (my avatar is supposed to animate only once). This did NOT happen when my avatar was not resizing. It's the second problem all over again!
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My APNG avatar is stretching to 150 x 150 again (it's natively 100 x 100) in Firefox 3.0.1, Opera 9.51, and even IE7.
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UPDATE: It seems that the stretching is gone, but now the 1st frame of my avatar's animation is stuck being visible or something. (my avatar has 2 frames)
It looks like the resizing from 150x150 to the intended size makes my avatar jump back to the 1st frame. Any ideas?
EDIT 2: I'll be updating this post with quotes and info from my other posts to keep things in one place.
Well, it seems like sometimes doing things will "coax" it to switch back. (like switching tabs or scrolling down to make the image go off the screen and then scrolling back up)
Maybe it's a bug in Firefox? I don't seem to get the problem on other forums though...
EDIT: Yeah, on DCEmu it doesn't happen.
Example: http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2148073125#post2148073125
EDIT 2: I just tested it in Opera 9.5 and this problem does not exist.
EDIT 3: it seems that SOMETIMES (though rarely) my avatar will animate correctly after I make a new post or edit an existing one.
EDIT 4: oookaaaaay... now it animates and renders properly about half the time independent of what I do. (though it's probably just random and I'm getting lucky)
I'm getting a rendering defect that ONLY happens on ZFGC. Seems like a forum issue to me.
Here's some more links to other forums if you're still not convinced:
http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?p=63514#63514
http://forum.wiibrew.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=565&p=3817#p3817
http://orangeloungeradio.com/phpnuke/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1857&start=0#13813
EDIT #n (no idea, lost count): Looks like this doesn't happen anymore, probably either from the site overhaul or the Firefox 3.0.1 update, but I'm having the issue with my avatar being stretched to 150 x 150 again... (it's natively 100 x 100)
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Opera 9.27 for the win.
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I see no stretching here in Firefox 3.
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hmm... no stretching now, but the 1st frame of my avatar's animation is stuck being visible or something... (my avatar has 2 frames)
It looks like the resizing from 150x150 to the intended size makes my avatar jump back to the 1st frame. Any ideas?
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Ctrl+F5 ?
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Well, it seems like sometimes doing things will "coax" it to switch back. (like switching tabs or scrolling down to make the image go off the screen and then scrolling back up)
Maybe it's a bug in Firefox? I don't seem to get the problem on other forums though...
EDIT: Yeah, on DCEmu it doesn't happen.
Example: http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2148073125#post2148073125
EDIT 2: I just tested it in Opera 9.5 and this problem does not exist.
EDIT 3: it seems that SOMETIMES (though rarely) my avatar will animate correctly after I make a new post or edit an existing one. (though it's probably just random and I'm getting lucky)
EDIT 4: oookaaaaay... now it animates and renders properly about half the time independent of what I do. (though it's probably just random and I'm getting lucky)
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Use a animated gif...
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um... no? Apparently don't understand the whole reason that I'm using an APNG in the first place :P (which I don't want to "spoil")
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Why is this in feedback? it has nothing to do with the forum.
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yes it does... I'm getting a rendering defect that ONLY happens on ZFGC. Seems like a forum issue to me.
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yes it does... I'm getting a rendering defect that ONLY happens on ZFGC. Seems like a forum issue to me.
That seems unlikely.
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Did you read my other posts? I provided a link to another forum that I've posted on, and there's no problem there.
Here's some more links to other forums if you're still not convinced:
http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?p=63514#63514
http://forum.wiibrew.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=565&p=3817#p3817
http://orangeloungeradio.com/phpnuke/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1857&start=0#13813
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its working for me
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The "Still haven't switched to Firefox/Opera" message? I saw it when I opened the topic in a tab but after looking at other tabs and returning it was gone. Maybe it's just really slow?
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Now THAT is exactly what I get. Like I said, it can't be slow or something because it works as intended on other sites. (the first frame is supposed to be displayed for 1 millisecond)
I also stated earlier that it animates as normal through "coxing" (such as switching tabs) which is exactly what you did :P
EDIT: And sometimes editing and making a new post seems to make it render correctly, which is what happened when I made this post
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Fatal error: Cannot redeclare str_ireplace() in /home/binaryp/public_html/source/Misc.php on line 208
LOL.
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I've re-hosted my avatar and signature elsewhere now, so now they appear. (though the APNG issue still occurs)
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Looks like this doesn't happen anymore, probably either from the site overhaul or the Firefox 3.0.1 update, but I'm having the issue with my avatar being stretched to 150 x 150 again... (it's natively 100 x 100)
EDIT: OH CRAP I didn't realize I made the last post in this topic, which means I just double-posted XD Sorry about that!
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Looks like this doesn't happen anymore, probably either from the site overhaul or the Firefox 3.0.1 update, but I'm having the issue with my avatar being stretched to 150 x 150 again... (it's natively 100 x 100)
EDIT: OH CRAP I didn't realize I made the last post in this topic, which means I just double-posted XD Sorry about that!
I am guessing that the forum is doing that
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hence why I'm posting in this topic :P It doesn't seem to be with images that just use the PNG extension though, AKA normal PNGs work fine.
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hence why I'm posting in this topic :P It doesn't seem to be with images that just use the PNG extension though, AKA normal PNGs work fine.
I am talking about the stretching...
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I am too - my avatar isn't a "normal" PNG per-say (or however that's spelled), it's an APNG.
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does it with my avvy too.
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I am too - my avatar isn't a "normal" PNG per-say (or however that's spelled), it's an APNG.
I know and the forum is stretching it... it stretches all of the avatars...
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I am too - my avatar isn't a "normal" PNG per-say (or however that's spelled), it's an APNG.
I know and the forum is stretching it... it stretches all of the avatars...
It's not stretching mine.
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I think it just stretches APNGs.
Unstretched GIF:
http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=30
Unstretched PNG (not APNG):
http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1728
Stretched APNG:
http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1046
(and obviously mine)
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Mines is stretched, its .png
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That's because it's natively above 150x150 pixels, which is the forum limit for avatars.
(so then it's not actually stretched but shrunk :P)
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Nothing appears stretched for me.
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Including my avatar and Darklight's? If so what browser and version are you using?
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My avatar is stretched too. It all started when the changes were made. I have no clue why it's doing it. My avatar is a PNG file. It's getting annoying. I'm using FireFox 3.
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Including my avatar and Darklight's? If so what browser and version are you using?
FireFox 3.
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My avatar is stretched too. It all started when the changes were made. I have no clue why it's doing it. My avatar is a PNG file. It's getting annoying. I'm using FireFox 3.
This is also happening to me I am using firefox3. IT is really sad to see my cute cat be resized D:
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I remember before the change, the avatars would look big like this while loading and go to proper size. I wish it would do that again.
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Problem fixed, the code required to resize them wasn't present in this theme.
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Well, crap. My avatar is jumping back to it's first frame again. This appears to be caused by the resizing, since this was fixed when my avatar wasn't stretched. You can find more info on this issue in my first post under "Old Issues."
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Its fine in Opera 9.5Linux, bitches
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Well, crap. My avatar is jumping back to it's first frame again. This appears to be caused by the resizing, since this was fixed when my avatar wasn't stretched. You can find more info on this issue in my first post under "Old Issues."
Its fixed. Have fun.
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What are you talking about? It still happens... you probably just got lucky (it works SOMETIMES...) or you "coaxed" it to animate normally. (I've explained this twice before, it's in my 1st post as well)
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o.o...
Nobody else has issues with their avas; what are you doing differently o.0;;
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For one its an APNG
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Using an APNG that doesn't repeat it's animation. (AKA it plays through only once)
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Using an APNG that doesn't repeat it's animation. (AKA it plays through only once)
GIF can do that as well.
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Not for the purpose I am using APNG for in the first place.
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Just upload it to zfgc. Javascript resizing only applies to external avatars because their dimensions can't be determined (or rather it would be too expensive to do server side).
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holy crap, that worked! YOU WIN A BAJILLION INTERWEBS.
I'm not gonna mark the topic as solved yet since I have a question though. Other forums I've been to don't have this problem, but they don't resize avatars on the fly, they're already resized. If it's too expensive, then how do small-time sites do it? Is it just something the way SMF does things?
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Its just how SMF does it, get over it.
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I wasn't complaining, I wanted clarification because it didn't add up how even smaller sites could pull it off. Jeez, now my mood is ruined... (I probably won't put solved in the topic either now...maybe if I feel better later)
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It's usually either:
a) They'll upload it to the server
b) They'll store the dimensions for the avatar first time
c) They don't have restrictions on the size of people's avatars
d) They'll do it how we do or they'll do it a similar way
btw Helios, you removed my change >_______>
go add $context['html_headers'] back into header will you.
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btw Helios, you removed my change >_______>
go add $context['html_headers'] back into header will you.
lol, I didn't realise anyone has been modifying things. I've been assuming my local copy is up to date.
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Since windy was kind enough to explain things, he wins today's daily internet and a cookie :D
Also, I'll now mark the topic as solved. :)
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my avatar is still bigger than normal D:
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my avatar is still bigger than normal D:
Reupload it?
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my avatar is still bigger than normal D:
Reupload it?
kinda odd that when I use a pic from a image host it resize, but when I upload it nothing happens.
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my avatar is still bigger than normal D:
Reupload it?
kinda odd that when I use a pic from a image host it resize, but when I upload it nothing happens.
Not really. As windy said, checking the dimensions of locally hosted images isn't to much of a problem, so all the resizing can be done appropriately. Hosting off-site however makes it difficult to check the dimensions and scaling is done less smootly.
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*sigh* well, it seems my avatar is back to its old habits again, even though I've uploaded it directly to ZFGC. Maybe it's just a fluke that's only happening for me or something, but I need feedback to find out.
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Its fine. Christ, who cares about a little image stretching that the topic has to be 4 pages long.
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Why do you need an avatar that does that anyways. Basically everyone here has the latest version of those browsers anyways.
Also it's not stretched for me, it looks fine.
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-_- It's not supposed to stretch. THE PROBLEM IS THE ANIMATION - IT KEEPS GOING BACK TO THE FIRST FRAME. (got it now?)
I mentioned stretching because before the resizing of the avatar was causing this problem, but now it's happening again but obviously not being caused by the resizing since there is none.
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You shouldn't use non standard image extensions then :P
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That still doesn't explain why this only happens in Firefox and not in Opera. (both which support APNG)
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That still doesn't explain why this only happens in Firefox and not in Opera. (both which support APNG)
Well than that's obviously a problem with Firefox and not the forums, so contact Mozilla.
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But that itself doesn't explain why it's only occurring on ZFGC.
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I have upgraded to FireFox 3 and your avy still shows the pic saying i haven't :-\.
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looks fine to me.
firefox 3.
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I have upgraded to FireFox 3 and your avy still shows the pic saying i haven't :-\.
This is the said issue. The message you're seeing is the 1st of 2 frames in my APNG animated avatar. Browsers other than Firefox 3 and Opera 9.5 cannot render the animation part, so they fallback to a standard PNG and show just the 1st frame.
The way I have it, the 1st frame (the message) only displays itself for 1 millisecond, then goes to the 2nd frame and stays there (I have no looping). The issue is that on ZFGC it wants to jump back to the 1st frame for whatever reason, and since I have no looping, animation has already stopped so it won't go back to frame 2 (unless "coaxed" in some way as specified in my 1st giant post under "Old Issues").
Now if I turned on looping, it wouldn't have a problem (hence Darklight's avatar) - but in Firefox I think 1ms is still kinda noticable (must check), but I don't think it is in Opera. I'll try it though.
EDIT: HA! I FIGURED A WAY AROUND IT!. Have it loop, but only twice with the 2nd frame at 99999ms. That way when it jumps back to the first frame, the animation isn't actually complete and will continue animating to the 2nd frame as normal! daaaaa Naaaaa NAAAAA NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
EDIT 2: That still doesn't help that the issue still exists though ¬_¬. I'll let it slide for now since it's probably something with the current SMF version that will hopefully not happen in the future. (but that still doesn't explain why it's Firefox only... so I guess it's Firefox + SMF only? huh.)
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I have upgraded to FireFox 3 and your avy still shows the pic saying i haven't :-\.
This is the said issue. The message you're seeing is the 1st of 2 frames in my APNG animated avatar. Browsers other than Firefox 3 and Opera 9.5 cannot render the animation part, so they fallback to a standard PNG and show just the 1st frame.
The way I have it, the 1st frame (the message) only displays itself for 1 millisecond, then goes to the 2nd frame and stays there (I have no looping). The issue is that on ZFGC it wants to jump back to the 1st frame for whatever reason, and since I have no looping, animation has already stopped so it won't go back to frame 2 (unless "coaxed" in some way as specified in my 1st giant post under "Old Issues").
Now if I turned on looping, it wouldn't have a problem (hence Darklight's avatar) - but in Firefox I think 1ms is still kinda noticable (must check), but I don't think it is in Opera. I'll try it though.
EDIT: HA! I FIGURED A WAY AROUND IT!. Have it loop, but only twice with the 2nd frame at 99999ms. That way when it jumps back to the first frame, the animation isn't actually complete and will continue animating to the 2nd frame as normal! daaaaa Naaaaa NAAAAA NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
EDIT 2: That still doesn't help that the issue still exists though ¬_¬. I'll let it slide for now since it's probably something with the current SMF version that will hopefully not happen in the future. (but that still doesn't explain why it's Firefox only... so I guess it's Firefox + SMF only? huh.)
What is so important about that message anyway?
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Well, for one, if you ARE running Firefox 3 like Ness was, the message is completely inaccurate. (it says you haven't upgraded to Firefox 3 or Opera 9.5)
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Well, for one, if you ARE running Firefox 3 like Ness was, the message is completely inaccurate. (it says you haven't upgraded to Firefox 3 or Opera 9.5)
Ok, remove it then?
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Certainly the sky is falling, but really, this isn't worth five pages of discussion over it when the way you are trying to use an avatar is not even how avatars were intended to be used on forum software in general; if this were a few years ago when browsers like Firefox supported PNG transparency while Internet Explorer did not, then I could possibly understand having a non-standard avatar that would check the browser choosing to show whichever image would be best compatible, but meh.
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I know it's not exactly the intention, but that how I work - I love to do things that weren't originally intended :P (that's the beta tester in me coming out <_<)
Yes I understand 5 pages is overkill, but is it not still an issue - one that we're going to completely ignore just because it's in the minority? Look, it's MY avatar so I have it as what I like, and that's urging people to use a better browser.
Also, like I've said earlier, Firefox 3 is supposed to support APNGs fine but all I know is that on ZFGC that's not true. I guess part of the reason for me caring so much about the issue is that I've never seen anything like it. As far as I know there's only really 1 implementation of APNG, so I just don't understand why Opera displays APNGs on ZFGC fine while Firefox doesn't, and yet on other sites Firefox does fine with APNGs. It's the requirement of needing BOTH Firefox 3 AND ZFGC for APNGs to glitch that is boggling my mind and making me freak out over it - it just doesn't make any ense to me!
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It's the requirement of needing BOTH Firefox 3 AND ZFGC for APNGs to glitch that is boggling my mind and making me freak out over it - it just doesn't make any ense to me!
If it happens on one browser and not the other, it's not our fault. The same code is emitted regardless of browser. Its more likely a problem with the browser. Just deal with it, APNG is not standardized, there will be differences in its implementation.
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Obviously I am dealing with it (I found a get-around solution), but it still doesn't make it right to ignore a bug. How can it be JUST the browser's fault if the problem doesn't happen elsewhere? That's why I'm thinking it's an issue with both ZFGC (and maybe SMF) AND the browser.
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How can it be JUST the browser's fault if the problem doesn't happen elsewhere? That's why I'm thinking it's an issue with both ZFGC (and maybe SMF) AND the browser.
Easy. It dosen't properly support one or more of the features used to emit images.
Eitherway at the risk of being impolite. Quit bitching. APNG isn't even a standardized format, your lucky it works at all.
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*sigh* :/ fine... (the beta tester in me just died a little)
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Yeah I personally was very surprised the thing even displayed in the first place <_< apng isn't widely used at all right now
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Well, it'll pretty much display on any site that supports standard PNG since APNG IS a PNG with extra stuff embedded. You then just need a browser or something that supports APNG that'll then read the rest of the data in the image and animate it instead of just ignoring the extra frames and data.