Rightousness

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Rightousness

« on: March 01, 2008, 10:48:00 pm »

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I thought of this when I read the Oscar Wilde quote: There is no such thing as a moral or an immoral book. Books are well written, or badly written. That is all.

Right and Wrong do exist, but they are not related in any way to absolute ideas about moral and immoral. Instead, righteousness is just a representation of the surrounding worlds way of measuring success.

Discuss (the Right and Wrong one).
Agree?
Disagree?
Think I'm a complete nut who deserves to be shot?
All of the above?

« Last Edit: March 17, 2008, 10:25:56 am by TheDarkJay »

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Vandavil	Re: Rightousness « Reply #1 on: March 01, 2008, 11:52:57 pm »
I need something new to put here... Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1181	Right and Wrong are what humanity is brought up on, basically, it's judgement. For someone or something to be classified as right or wrong, the majority will have to think that way. Say, for instance, Adolf Hitler and WWII, the majority beleive hitler was a nut and deserved to be shot, therefore, he was classified as bad. Logged

Dracon	Re: Rightousness « Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 12:31:04 am »
CRUNCH! I'll add it to the heap! Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1314	Meh. I think there is such a thing as right and wrong, and actions can carry them. Books count as actions, so a book can be an action of good or evil, but not not evil in itself. Logged
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Kyubi GET ON THE BALL!	Re: Rightousness « Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 12:39:29 am »
:3 Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 2485	Well if you look at Hitler, a lot of all the !@#$% that happened was blamed on him when he didn't do much of it. He actually sat around at his private home a lot watching films all day. I'm serious. It was his insane followers such as Rudolf Hess who worshipped him that caused the various atrocities of Nazi Germany. Although he did go about conspiring hatred against the Jews. Logged
:3 Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 2485	Gannon-banned brother.

CelestialEsper	Re: Rightousness « Reply #4 on: March 17, 2008, 04:14:59 am »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 237	Quote Adolf Hitler and WWII, the majority beleive hitler was a nut and deserved to be shot, therefore, he was classified as bad. That was sarcasm, right? Quote Thing I'm a complete nut who deserves to be shot? Any last words? ;D Logged
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Kylink	Re: Rightousness « Reply #5 on: March 19, 2008, 11:26:58 pm »
Don't Worry Sir, I'm From The Internet. Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 2339	Quote from: CelestialEsper on March 17, 2008, 04:14:59 am Quote Adolf Hitler and WWII, the majority beleive hitler was a nut and deserved to be shot, therefore, he was classified as bad. That was sarcasm, right? No, he was just saying that if the majority had thought Hitler was good, then he would have been good. Logged
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CelestialEsper	Re: Rightousness « Reply #6 on: March 20, 2008, 04:11:07 am »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 237	Quote from: Kylink on March 19, 2008, 11:26:58 pm Quote from: CelestialEsper on March 17, 2008, 04:14:59 am Quote Adolf Hitler and WWII, the majority beleive hitler was a nut and deserved to be shot, therefore, he was classified as bad. That was sarcasm, right? No, he was just saying that if the majority had thought Hitler was good, then he would have been good. I couldn't disagree anymore then. In my opinion, thinking good and evil as nothing more than relative opinions is--no offense--moronic. Logged
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TheDarkJay	Re: Rightousness « Reply #7 on: March 20, 2008, 10:50:24 am »
(y)(;>.<;)(y) Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3293	Explain. Good and Evil are just buzz words, because in the end, you can't define evil. Logged

Vandavil	Re: Rightousness « Reply #8 on: March 20, 2008, 11:24:46 am »
I need something new to put here... Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1181	Quote from: CelestialEsper on March 20, 2008, 04:11:07 am Quote from: Kylink on March 19, 2008, 11:26:58 pm Quote from: CelestialEsper on March 17, 2008, 04:14:59 am Quote Adolf Hitler and WWII, the majority beleive hitler was a nut and deserved to be shot, therefore, he was classified as bad. That was sarcasm, right? No, he was just saying that if the majority had thought Hitler was good, then he would have been good. I couldn't disagree anymore then. In my opinion, thinking good and evil as nothing more than relative opinions is--no offense--moronic. Good and Bad are both judgements. I may think a Dog is bad because it bit me. It's owner has seen it being a warm friend. We have two judgements on it. Just like beauty. They are also judgements, but on actions. A good action may be donating money to Charity. A bad action may be commiting theft. Just like to some Americans Invading Iraq was a good action, while to others, it was the worst option possible. Logged

bertfallen	Re: Rightousness « Reply #9 on: March 20, 2008, 05:24:06 pm »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 5213	Quote from: CelestialEsper on March 20, 2008, 04:11:07 am Quote from: Kylink on March 19, 2008, 11:26:58 pm Quote from: CelestialEsper on March 17, 2008, 04:14:59 am Quote Adolf Hitler and WWII, the majority beleive hitler was a nut and deserved to be shot, therefore, he was classified as bad. That was sarcasm, right? No, he was just saying that if the majority had thought Hitler was good, then he would have been good. I couldn't disagree anymore then. In my opinion, thinking good and evil as nothing more than relative opinions is--no offense--moronic. Actually it makes a lot of sense. Hitlers followers followed him because they thought what they was doing was good. Saddams followers aswell, Osamas, yada yada yada. Now in the viewpoint of their men, we're the evil people...as proven by the constant suicide bombing and what not. Logged
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Dantztron 3030 Mammy's Favorite Storyteller!	Re: Rightousness « Reply #10 on: March 21, 2008, 04:51:41 am »
b e p i s Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3594	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative Immanuel Kant, motherfuckers, DO YOU READ HIM? Logged
b e p i s Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3594	Quote from: CeFurkan on September 10, 2010, 08:30:51 pm well i dont have that system and it is very hard to care about everything when you are single

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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2008, 12:43:17 pm »

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Haha unbelievably I do. Well I had to, for my Relgious GCSE. He's all about the categorical imperative right. Well, I'm not sure I agree with that because no law is universal. Heck even the golden rule "Do unto others that you would have done to yourself" isn't universal, because lets face it, not everyone likes being treated the way you do. If you are a masochist and like being hurt, thats no reason to go around attacking other people. So I would argue against the existence of a definitive, right and wrong, because it all depends on circumstances. In my eyes, theres only better and worse, not right and wrong. Because those two options, are too, black and white, too absolute. Right and wrong are just extremes.

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Cuddle♥Bunny	Re: Rightousness « Reply #12 on: April 05, 2008, 01:33:54 am »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Posts: 1328	Oscar Wilde is universally right, and that's all that matters. Logged
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