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GMBasic - A BASIC writing tool written in GML!
« on: October 14, 2006, 06:22:49 am »
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GMBasic is a program I came up with a while back. I was reading up on QBasic for whatever reason and it sort of popped into my head. That was a month ago. I finally began working on it early yesterday. So far, this is what I have. It has the START and PRINT operations, along with deleting operations, and an unfinished save and load function. Yes, this is a beta, so expect some weird bugs and stuff.

Disclaimer: Due to being as lazy as I am, I've decided on a different method of saving: you can save as a .GMB file, or you can export the code to a .TXT file. So no compiler for you. *cynical laughter*

Screenshot of Interface: http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7163/screenshotjp2.png

The zip file is roughly 1 MB in size. Enjoy!
« Last Edit: November 20, 2006, 06:29:13 pm by Cronian »
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Re: GMBasic - A BASIC compiler written in GML!
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2006, 06:41:12 am »
No offense, but why did you waste your time making a compiler with a scripting language(especially gamemaker <__<)? I congrats you on all the hard work but that just doesn't make sense XD.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2006, 06:43:52 am »
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Its a new idea, I think, and I wish you luck.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2006, 06:49:58 am »
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Quote from: gm112 on October 14, 2006, 06:41:12 am
No offense, but why did you waste your time making a compiler with a scripting language(especially gamemaker <__<)? I congrats you on all the hard work but that just doesn't make sense XD.

Because it's possible.

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Its a new idea, I think, and I wish you luck.

Well, kind of. Smarty on the GMC made GMSQL. GMBasic was inspired by GMSQL.
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2006, 07:01:45 am »
Cronian, I respect how you're pushing gm's limits and proving it can make more than games.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2006, 07:27:41 am »
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Impresive but I don't see the point of making this please Enlight Me!!!
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2006, 12:06:20 pm »
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Erm, two reasons, one is to prove that it's possible, but more importantly, a windows-based BASIC language. :)
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2006, 01:03:51 pm »
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Well its a nice idea, though totally impracticle in a scripting language. If your interpreting it, its going to be slow as hell. Try and compile it to assembly the assemble that into an executable, much faster :) (check out my compiler tutorial if you don't know what I mean).
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2006, 01:35:13 pm »
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I was about to recommend your tutorial. It's in the forum at binaryphoenix.com. Read up =)
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2006, 03:53:57 pm »
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I think it's great to see users doing things like this and stretching the limits of programs like GM.

On a side note; I moved this to Misc Early Production & Ideas, because that's what this is, really; a post detailing the development of an in-progress program <_<

Good idea, even if there isn't much use, it could still teach you a good bit and is bound to come in useful sometime (trust me on that one, sometimes two completely unrelated things can supplement each other and improve you a lot <_<)
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2006, 06:36:25 pm »
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Quote from: Helios on October 14, 2006, 01:03:51 pm
Well its a nice idea, though totally impracticle in a scripting language. If your interpreting it, its going to be slow as hell. Try and compile it to assembly the assemble that into an executable, much faster :) (check out my compiler tutorial if you don't know what I mean).

BASIC itself was slow to begin with. Trust me: I used to program with it. Think of it as shoving two hypodermic needles into your eye sockets. Anyway, no matter what the speed of GMBasic, it'll still be hands down at least 50 times faster than any DOS based BASIC compiler.

Quote from: gm112 on October 14, 2006, 07:01:45 am
Cronian, I respect how you're pushing gm's limits and proving it can make more than games.

Thanks.  :) It's nice to have some support.

Quote from: Helios on October 14, 2006, 01:03:51 pm
Well its a nice idea, though totally impracticle in a scripting language. If your interpreting it, its going to be slow as hell. Try and compile it to assembly the assemble that into an executable, much faster :) (check out my compiler tutorial if you don't know what I mean).

I plan to have 3 different ways of saving:
  • You can save it as a .GMB file, which will save it in a unique GMBasic format.
  • You can export it to a .BAS file, which is the extension for BASIC
  • You can compile it into a .EXE
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2006, 07:41:45 pm »
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BASIC itself was slow to begin with. Trust me: I used to program with it. Think of it as shoving two hypodermic needles into your eye sockets. Anyway, no matter what the speed of GMBasic, it'll still be hands down at least 50 times faster than any DOS based BASIC compiler.
Actaully no, true the first one was because it was interpreted. But later versions and hybrids are not, for instance some of the versions of BlitzBasic (specifically BlitzMax) are the same speed as C.
As for being faster than a DOS basic compiler, your proof is where? Whats the execution speed of a single expression factor?

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I plan to have 3 different ways of saving:
You can save it as a .GMB file, which will save it in a unique GMBasic format.
You can export it to a .BAS file, which is the extension for BASIC
You can compile it into a .EXE
So your compiler is going to have a retargetable backend? Writing a backend for each format
is more or less a waste of time, just go for the superior PE executable format.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2006, 07:06:52 am »
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It wouldn't really be a waste of time. Essentially, it can only open .GMB files, which are used to save your work temporarily so you can pick up where you left off. The .BAS format is there in case you'd rather use a regular BASIC compiler, and we all know what .EXE is for. But the current way I compile stuff to .EXEs is really long and very buggy...where's that compiler example you meantioned? I could put it to good use.
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2006, 07:23:42 am »
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You should use 'workspaces', which allow you to load groups out your code instantly, as well as contain compiler information (whether to use console or GUI for example). I remember the early FreeBASIC Ide without this feature...annoying!

Just for the record OLD BASIC is slow, and that's because modern PC's nowadays EMULATE DoS, which is obviously gonna slow it down.

Look at the NEW Basic compilers, like FreeBASIC, BlitzBASIC and VisualBASIC. FreeBASIC I know from experience (it was one of my first languages) is very powerful, it's as, if not more, powerful than the MingW C compiler.
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Quote from: Cronian on October 15, 2006, 07:06:52 am
It wouldn't really be a waste of time. Essentially, it can only open .GMB files, which are used to save your work temporarily so you can pick up where you left off. The .BAS format is there in case you'd rather use a regular BASIC compiler, and we all know what .EXE is for. But the current way I compile stuff to .EXEs is really long and very buggy...where's that compiler example you meantioned? I could put it to good use.
I don't think you quite understand what I meant.

Anyway my compiler tutorials are available from my website or here.

http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?topic=8727.0
http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?topic=8767.0
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2006, 04:55:33 am »
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Check the first post.  ;D
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 Alright, here is something you should know from back when I developed my own GM compiler: Don't use .save files. You can't save user code that way, you'll run into multiple problems when trying to make an exe and it is just a bad habit. Use .ini files, encrypt them and have a password to open them. .ini files allow you to save a user variable, while a .save file ends all execute strings when saved, then getting rid of all the code the dude typed in and screwing with the resources s/he had.

 Plus, imagine all the hell you'll have to go through trying to make that go into another compiler.

 This really is nothing more then an interface and saving test, you couldn't use any basic functions, couldn't compile, etc but I do admire you for trying it.

 I'd also like to note that when saving, if you click cancel, no string is returned, then giving me an error. I suggest you have a break off from the original code if no string is returned.
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2006, 08:08:41 am »
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Regarding your comment on compiling...

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Disclaimer: Due to being as lazy as I am, I've decided on a different method of saving: you can save as a .GMB file, or you can export the code to a .TXT file. So no compiler for you. *cynical laughter*

Basically, what the damn thing does is gives you your code in a .TXT (Notepad) format, mainly because I am too goddamn lazy to write my own compiler. As for the saving, my favorite show was coming on (Attack of the Show rocks and you know it), so I rushed it and forgot about it.  :P (You'll come to learn that I am the laziest and most forgetful programmer in existence and cope with it.) I'll try to fix these as I continue to work...my QBasic skills are a little rusty, so I'll have to fine tune those as well.

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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2006, 02:35:57 am »
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Some people would appreciate this a lot, especially people having some trouble.
Good job, I like it :)
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2006, 10:18:07 pm »
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Thanks. Glad to see someone likes it. (Most of the GMC is like "u nub dis sux go 2 hell lololololol"  :P)
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