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« on: July 10, 2006, 09:28:40 pm »
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By RYAN LENZ, Associated Press Writer Mon Jul 10, 7:15 AM ET

TIKRIT, Iraq - Four more U.S. soldiers have been charged with rape and murder and a fifth with dereliction of duty in the alleged rape-slaying of a young Iraqi woman and the killings of her relatives in Mahmoudiya, the military said Sunday.
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The five were accused Saturday following an investigation into allegations that American soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division raped the teenager and killed her and three relatives at her home south of Baghdad.

Ex-soldier Steven D. Green was arrested last week in North Carolina and has pleaded not guilty to one count of rape and four counts of murder. He was ordered held without bond on the charges, which carry a possible death penalty.

The U.S. statement said the five soldiers still on active duty will face an Article 32 investigation, similar to a grand jury hearing in civilian law. The Article 32 proceeding will determine whether there is enough evidence to place them on trial.

One of the soldiers was charged with failing to report the attack but is not believed to have participated in it directly, the statement said. The four facing murder charges could face the death penalty if convicted.

The names of the five were not released, but a U.S. military official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, said Sunday that the soldiers recently charged are two sergeants, two privates first-class and one specialist.

The March 12 attack on the family was among the worst in a series of cases of U.S. troops accused of killing and abusing Iraqi civilians.

U.S. officials are concerned the alleged rape-slaying will strain relations with the new U.S.-backed government and increase calls for changes in an agreement that exempts American soldiers from prosecution in Iraqi courts.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has demanded an independent investigation into the case, which followed a series of claims that U.S. troops killed and mistreated Iraqi civilians.

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FBI affidavit filed in Green's case, he and at least two others targeted the teenager and her family for a week before the attack, which was not revealed until witnesses came forward in late June.

The soldiers drank alcohol, abandoned their checkpoint, changed clothes to avoid detection and headed to the victims' house, about 200 yards from a U.S. military checkpoint in the so-called "Triangle of Death," a Sunni Arab area south of Baghdad known for its violence, the affidavit said.

The affidavit estimated the rape victim was about 25. But a doctor at the Mahmoudiya hospital gave her age as 14. He refused to be identified for fear of reprisals.

Green is accused of raping the woman and killing her and three relatives ??? an adult male and female and a girl estimated to be 5 years old. An official familiar with the investigation said he set fire to the rape victim's body in an apparent cover-up attempt.

Iraqi authorities identified the rape victim as Abeer Qassim Hamza. The other victims were her father, Qassim Hamza; her mother, Fikhriya Taha; and her sister, Hadeel Qassim Hamza.
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Re: 4 more soldiers charged with rape and murder...
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2006, 09:47:37 pm »
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*sigh* the death murder toll climbs ever higher.
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Re: 4 more soldiers charged with rape and murder...
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2006, 03:31:40 am »
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*sigh* the death murder toll climbs ever higher.
I think that people ought to quit murdering each other.

Wait a second... why's this in the debate section?  I mean, none of us are stupid enough to claim to have enough evidence to say whether they did or didn't do it...

...unless you're trying to blame the entire military for the choices of a few individuals that have been wrong (assuming that they didn't-- hold on!  Let's give them the presumption of innocent, since they've only been charged.  Especially when the last few have turned out to be innocent), which there's something wrong with.

Oh, BTW:
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Hijackers crash passenger jets
into New York's World Trade
Center and the Pentagon in
Washington - thousands are
feared dead.

Source: http://www.september11news.com/WorldWebArchives.htm

So if you're blaming the entire military/US/Bush for the actions of a few individuals, let's generalize those who did the attacks, and group those who had nothing to do with the terrorist group (those who plotted and carried out the attack), to a much broader group, such as a nation.  Heck, let's generalize it to Afganistan like you're generalizing a few faulty choices of some individuals to America.
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Re: 4 more soldiers charged with rape and murder...
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2006, 04:38:46 am »
Try them, convict them, punish them, make sure they can't do it again. The American legal system does its job again... like possum said, where's the debate? (I suppose we could debate whether we should let the Iraqi courts try them...)
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Re: 4 more soldiers charged with rape and murder...
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2006, 02:20:08 am »
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Try them, convict them, punish them, make sure they can't do it again. The American legal system does its job again... like possum said, where's the debate? (I suppose we could debate whether we should let the Iraqi courts try them...)
Why convict them if they're not guilty?  Remember that we don't know whether they are or aren't yet. ;)
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Re: 4 more soldiers charged with rape and murder...
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2006, 03:29:35 am »
Right, I'm just saying tha tit isn't the big problem people make it out to be. Given, it shouldn't happen but it isn't like it isn't being dealt with.
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