So... developers don't even make their own trees anymore?

Swoftu Super Fighting Robot	So... developers don't even make their own tree... « on: November 08, 2008, 04:50:31 am »
Reputation: +0/-3 Offline Gender: Posts: 3096	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedtree http://www.speedtree.com/ No wonder why most western developed games have a similar aesthetic. Logged

Aliento	Re: So... developers don't even make their own ... « Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 05:07:04 am »
I just saved Hyrule! I'd say that's worth a kiss. Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 464	I dont really object. Developers could spend time and money making nice looking trees, or spend that time and money on other more important parts of the engine. Logged
	We may as well call it "Small Forum Populated by a Few People Who Make Fangames, Mostly About Zelda, But More Often Talk About Other Nintendo Franchises Central" "SFPFPWMF,MAZ,BMOTAONFC" for short.

Mamoruanime @Mamoruanime	Re: So... developers don't even make their own ... « Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008, 05:14:44 am »
^Not actually me. Reputation: +9/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 9786	Ah a non-programmer complaining about how developers take shortcuts on programming hmm fancy that Anyway; theres no issues with this. Stuff like this takes considerable amounts of time in development. I'm confused as to why you're not ragging on developers for using full scale engines for their games... Logged

शेफाली Shefali	Re: So... developers don't even make their own ... « Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008, 05:45:14 am »
虫めづる姫君 Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Posts: 2990	It was inevitable. So many developers want realistic graphics; now that there's a program to make ultra-realistic trees, why would anyone try to re-invent it when they could use what's already there? Logged

Tet	Re: So... developers don't even make their own ... « Reply #4 on: November 08, 2008, 06:27:19 am »
I believe. I believe in ghosts. Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Posts: 151	Someone made a commercial graphics engine just for foliage? Wat? Logged
	n__n

Porkchop	Re: So... developers don't even make their own ... « Reply #5 on: November 08, 2008, 07:00:27 am »
Super Hero Time! Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 4859	DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOP. Sorry, had to. Anyways, even though I guess it cuts time, how hard is it to model a few trees and copy and paste. Also nb4 OMG YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MODELING, MAPPING, etc. Who cares. Logged
	Quote from: Vash on March 05, 2011, 09:24:21 pm !@#$% I lost my entire post, god dammit.

शेफाली Shefali	Re: So... developers don't even make their own ... « Reply #6 on: November 08, 2008, 08:09:33 am »
虫めづる姫君 Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Posts: 2990	Quote from: Zidane on November 08, 2008, 07:00:27 am … how hard is it to model a few trees and copy and paste. Harder than having someone else do the work for you. >.> Logged

TheDarkJay

Re: So... developers don't even make their own ...

« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 12:22:15 pm »

(y)(;>.<;)(y)
Reputation: +0/-0
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 3293

SpeedTree is a highly effective engine that has been worked on for a long time. If you expected developers to recreate this from scratch, it would add at least a year to the products development time.

Not only does it render the trees, it handles a lot more about them. If these trees were just the models rendered over and over again, FPS would drop so low it'd make you suicidal. Instead, SpeedTree uses several algorithms and tricks to optimise the code. Simplest things it does is by reducing the polycount of the trees and eventually turning them into 2D renders. But it does a lot more than this.

« Last Edit: November 08, 2008, 12:24:51 pm by TheDarkJay »

Logged

Infinitus

Re: So... developers don't even make their own ...

« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2008, 02:53:18 pm »

Reputation: +3/-0
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 6629

Quote

how hard is it to model a few trees and copy and paste.

The problem has nothing to do with that. Modelling the tree is incredibly easy. The problem comes with both repetition (you don't want to see the same tree everywhere do you?), and speed, drawing thousands, possibly millions for large forests, of polygons worth of trees slows things down. It takes a lot of effort to optimize something like that, its easier and faster for a developer to use middleware.

Logged

DJvenom super-sage	Re: So... developers don't even make their own ... « Reply #9 on: November 08, 2008, 07:46:42 pm »
Colbydude was here. Reputation: +7/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 2898	Most western developed games have the same aesthetic because they're all developed with the same 4 words in mind. "GUNS GOOD, KILL !@#$%." This is why any game that doesn't feature some burly half-mechanical man toting a huge ass gun gets deemed "revolutionary". Logged
	I do art I ermmm... DID do art I do art

Moldrill	Re: So... developers don't even make their own ... « Reply #10 on: November 10, 2008, 03:28:02 pm »
Reputation: +6/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 4472	Reminds of a very similar Unity project that was finished a while ago. UniTree it was called. It randomly generates about three different types of trees that look exactly the same for every Unity developer to use. Logged

Xiphirx wat	Re: So... developers don't even make their own ... « Reply #11 on: November 11, 2008, 12:39:03 am »
Xiphirx Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3007	Quote from: DJvenom, the Hallowed on November 08, 2008, 07:46:42 pm Most western developed games have the same aesthetic because they're all developed with the same 4 words in mind. "GUNS GOOD, KILL !@#$%." This is why any game that doesn't feature some burly half-mechanical man toting a huge ass gun gets deemed "revolutionary". QFET Logged
Xiphirx Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3007	For The Swarm (StarCraft II Zerg strategy) I whip my hair back n forth

Author Topic: So... developers don't even make their own trees anymore? (Read 1496 times)