Best way to convert game intro to new style?

Jeod Team Dekunutz, Doubleteam	Best way to convert game intro to new style? « on: February 12, 2009, 01:27:04 am »
Reputation: +3/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1675	Specifically the LA intro to LttP style. « Last Edit: February 13, 2009, 12:04:06 am by Jeod » Logged
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MaJoRa	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 07:54:51 am »
Reputation: +10/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1469	Well the great thing about the LA game is that it is also 2D like the LTTP one. My personal suggestion would be to create a tileset from all of the LA overworld, for every sprite that you can find. I would then proceed to look for the LTTP equivalent ,and lay them out on two separate sheets in the same way so that you can see this. Then you could clearly see what LTTP is missing, and would know what needs to be created. You also have enough ties from there to then do nearly 80% of the overworld. Logged
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Jeod Team Dekunutz, Doubleteam	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 01:22:29 pm »
Reputation: +3/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1675	I mean the amv that plays at the start of the game. The one where Link is in the storm. Logged
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Mamoruanime @Mamoruanime	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 02:09:19 pm »
^Not actually me. Reputation: +9/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 9786	The style isn't really different... It's the same style artwork that's in the instruction booklets for aLttP and LA. Realistically though; aLttP wouldn't have an intro like that. It would represent those events with sprites. Logged

Jeod Team Dekunutz, Doubleteam	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #4 on: February 12, 2009, 04:18:22 pm »
Reputation: +3/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1675	So I have two opitons. Either I just keep the original intro with no changes, or create the entire thing myself with sprites. Logged
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Zaeranos	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #5 on: February 12, 2009, 10:21:24 pm »
Reputation: +9/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3725	Those are two options, or you could take the intro screens in Paint or something equivalent and paint the complete thing over in ALttP color pallet. Like Mamoruanime said, the style is the same, but you might want to some color. Logged

Jeod Team Dekunutz, Doubleteam	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #6 on: February 12, 2009, 10:34:57 pm »
Reputation: +3/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1675	The intro has over 1000 frames, according to animget. You saying repaint 1000+ frames and then assemble them again? Logged
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Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style?

« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2009, 11:51:03 pm »

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They're not FMV's Jeod... Theres not 1000 frames.

You're relying on a video capture tool to capture something generated in-game using stylized tiles, sprites, and palette changes...

In order to recreate it, you need to treat the intro as if it's no different from a "room" in your game, as apposed to a video.

Assuming you're planning on taking on the task of redesigning LA in LTTP style; I'd suggest taking on a project that requires less mid-skill techniques, and go with something more beginner to get into the game design scene. Theres some fundamental techniques you'll need to grasp before trying to recreate a game. Start small, and study some examples that come with Game Maker, and then read up on some game dev books. It should be a foot in the door at least

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Jeod Team Dekunutz, Doubleteam	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #8 on: February 13, 2009, 12:03:55 am »
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Mamoruanime @Mamoruanime	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #9 on: February 13, 2009, 12:07:06 am »
^Not actually me. Reputation: +9/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 9786	Quote from: Jeod on February 13, 2009, 12:03:55 am Um, I'm not using Game Maker. Irrelevant; the point is there are fundamental things that need to be learned before taking on a task like recreating LA in LTTP style. No matter what you're using for a programming language, theres got to be tutorials or guides for basic game development that could help with this stuff. Logged

Jeod Team Dekunutz, Doubleteam	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #10 on: February 13, 2009, 12:12:59 am »
Reputation: +3/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1675	I know how to make the game. I've never fiddled with an intro before though. Don't judge my skills based on a part of something that doesn't particuarly matter anyway. I just wanted the intro to make it look nice. I don't need it to make this. Logged
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ahmio	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #11 on: February 13, 2009, 12:23:58 am »
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FellowshipoftheRing	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #12 on: February 13, 2009, 12:24:39 am »
	There's a way. Sprite it. Logged

Jeod Team Dekunutz, Doubleteam	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #13 on: February 13, 2009, 12:24:52 am »
Reputation: +3/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1675	Quote from: ahmio on February 13, 2009, 12:23:58 am make it with sprites I'll probably just end up doing that. Logged
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DJvenom super-sage	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #14 on: February 13, 2009, 09:58:21 am »
Colbydude was here. Reputation: +7/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 2898	the LA opening is my favorite AMV. Logged
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King Tetiro Leader of Phoenix Heart	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #15 on: February 13, 2009, 02:58:59 pm »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3549	Jeod, I'll give you an honest answer. Make the intro using LTTP style sprites. It'll be hard work but that's what the style would have. Logged

Jeod Team Dekunutz, Doubleteam	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #16 on: February 13, 2009, 03:29:05 pm »
Reputation: +3/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1675	Alright, sprites it is. Can't be too difficult, really. Logged
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Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style?

« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2009, 06:27:22 pm »

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I have checked the intro of LA. I assume you mean the intro where Link's ship is hit by lightning. All the objects in screen are background images or sprites and I have counted them. Below you will find a list:

Single Color Background (2x)
Clouds (2x)
Rain Foreground
Lightning (7x)
Link (2x picture, 1x sprite)
Seas (3x)
Boat silhouette
Beach
Marin
Koholint Island with Windfish Egg
Title: Legend of Zelda Link's Awakening (ALttP style)

In total you have to draw over 23 sprites. Some are animated and some are static. After this you just have to animate the sprites. I think your estimate of 1000+ frames is unlikely.

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Jeod Team Dekunutz, Doubleteam	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #18 on: February 13, 2009, 08:00:45 pm »
Reputation: +3/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1675	Running VBA with animget had 1000 frames ripped. That list will help though, thanks! Logged
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Mamoruanime @Mamoruanime	Re: Best way to convert game intro to new style? « Reply #19 on: February 13, 2009, 08:12:43 pm »
^Not actually me. Reputation: +9/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 9786	Quote from: Jeod on February 13, 2009, 08:00:45 pm Running VBA with animget had 1000 frames ripped. That list will help though, thanks! <_< We already covered why that isn't possible... You can't treat game cycles as frames.... It's not an FMV. Logged

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