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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2006, 01:05:30 pm »
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Suicide/Homocide Bombers are the  lowest level terrerists the ones that through their religion can be led to believe that they can sacrifice themselves in the name of Allah and get seventy vergins when they die...

By this, do you mean that Suicide Bombers are dirty, horny sex people? Eww...
I think he's moving more to the point that they're basically pawns and that their faith is basically a tool that is used to suit "other" people's desires.
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2006, 02:05:06 pm »
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In fact, I don't agree with those who say they're Christian and yet will willing become soldiers and kill people. According to their religion, it is morally undefendable... so, either they're in ignorance (or ignoring their religion) or they just don't care.
No, no, no... "thou shalt not kill", while was a very literal law in the law of moses (albeit their law compelled them to stone those who broke the commandments), the law of moses was abolished with Christ, so now it's not "thou shalt not kill", but much more expansive than that.
No the Law of Moses was not abolished when Christ came, rather it was fulfilled. Fulfilled in that fact that no human being could ever fulfill Gods perfect law, hence the need for a saviour who would mend our broken relationship with our creator.

The law of Moses was fullfilled in the sense that, by fulfilling the law, one would have rightousness with God. Yet because we are naturally sinful (a result of us telling God to get out of our lives, either by ignoring him, putting him anywhere other than first, or telling him to get lost) we cannot possibly fulfill the law. That was no accident, as God had made a promise with abraham, that he would make his people into a great naiton, bless them, and give them land. This was fulfilled partly through the Jewish nation BC, and now is completely fullfilled through Christ, the naiton now being made up of spiritual decendants of abraham, ie those made rightous by faith. Abrahams rightousness did not come by works, but by faith.

So the question of why the Jews had the 10 commandments is answered in this: it was put in place as a way of how the Jews should live, in thankfulness of what God had done for them. He'd chosen them as a people, set them appart from the other nations, he'd been with them, and he'd rescued them from slavary in Egypt. Thus, now that they had a land, God wanted them to live in a way that would allow them to remember him, and more importantly, show that God was the center of their lives. Ofcourse, God told them the consequences of not following these rules, which was that he would allow other nations to take them captive, and their land would not produce food, and so on.

Ofcourse, the Jews couldnt keep them  all and failed, as any human being who as ever existed would (excluding Jesus Christ, who being fully God, was also fully human being, but obviously without the sin). Thus, because the Jews couldnt live in a perfect relationship with God, they needed sacrifices to pay for their sins (ie the bulls and lambs). But these were only temporary, which was meant to highlight their need for a permanent sacrifice that would pay for all their sins perminantly.

So then Jesus came, and was the one who lived moses' law perfectly, because he was in perfect relationship with God. As a result, being perfect, and being fully God and fully human, he was able to take not only the Jews sins away, but the whole worlds sins away. This is not a subjective event, made up in the minds of men, rather an actual physical and tangible event in the earths history, thus anyone who accepts Jesus' payment for their sins, will be forgiven, and will have their judgement payed by the blood of Jesus. But those that choose to take it on themself, will have to pay for it by going to hell for eternety, which is what we all deserve for rejecting the one who has made us, and which is why its so great of the Creator of everything to grant us forgiveness. Just forgiveness may I add, as he does not simply ignore these sins, rather the weight of them were put on his son, who was the only one who could pay for them in full.



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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2006, 02:50:19 pm »
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No the Law of Moses was not abolished when Christ came, rather it was fulfilled.
Yes, you are quite right.  My mistake on termanology.  What I meant was that it was no longer applicable to us in the same regard.

Thanks for the correction ;)
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