This topic was completely unexpected. Anyhow, I try to keep this out of the 'gay marriage' debates that we have, but yes, I feel homosexuality is morally incorrect when acted upon.
Homosexuality? WRONG?
Excuse me while I recover from the very ignorance of that statement.
And what is ignorant about it? It's ignorant to think differently than you?
So first you're telling him that it's ignorance to think that someone is wrong when they are 'different', now you're telling him that it's wrong for HIM to be 'different'?
Whatever the cause of homosexuality, that doesnt' mean that they have less rights than the rest of us.
Agreed. They're people too, they deserve rights. Did he ever say otherwise? I think not...
Seriously. Don't tell me, "Homosexuality is wrong because they don't have sex to further the human race." Most people, when they have sex, don't have sex to further the human race. Ever heard of birth control? Ever heard of abortions?
You're implying that those are right. Maybe he doesn't believe that.
Hello? If you really believe that, take a moral stance against the entire world and tell them that they can't have sex, unless they are making babies. It's not going to happen. People have sexual urges. ALL people. People have sex. "You're not supposed to enjoy sex." Gee, biologically, we're not supposed to enjoy alcohol, or drugs, or music, or sitting in front of a computer pushing buttons on a keyboard. We're not 'supposed' to enjoy pretty much anything but eating, sleeping, killing, and screwing. Those are our prime instincts.
Say I have an instinct to rape someone. Should I act upon my natural human instincts?
Homosexuals take enough crap from people who have unfairly decided that homosexuality is in some way 'wrong'. I know quite a few gay people, and being gay isn't really somethign that I think most of them would go out and decide to do of their own free will. It's pretty terrible when your parents hate you for being gay, or when people tease you all the time when the only thing you've done is be yourself.
And I was just being myself, and following my animal (read: natural) instincts by raping the woman.
I can see, now, how homosexual marriage could be a topic where a debate was possible...but I don't see how this one could be.
Agreed, I mean, it's impossible to debate morality. Morals are definitive (may have exceptions, but you get what I mean).
You may as well start a topic that says, "Black People, good or bad?"
No, because note that he didn't say "homosexuals, good or bad" he said
homosexuality.
People are people. Stop trying to find some reaosn to feel better about yourself for fitting into the majority, and just accept that some of us are different.
We don't have to accept people's actions, though.
It's people who make statements like this that make me wish I weren't in the majoirty.
You mean, minority? Because you just said he was in the majority... <_< >_>
I will say this right now: you have no right to say that homosexuality is wrong. At all.
Yet you have the right to say that homosexuality is perfectly fine? There's a falacy to be found in there (Srehp would be proud of me for using that word ^_^), it's like those who say "legalize marijuana, don't impose your morals on them!" but that's them imposing THEIR morals on us. Don't tell him he can't do exactly what you're doing (just on the other side of the debate).
It is a personal choice, and is none of your business at all.
It's his business to establish what he believes. It's his business entirely. It's NOT his business to discriminate, but is he doing that?
Gays love men because of the same reason we love women, only they've got it going the other way for some reason. It's not a choice they make, it's who they are.
Prove it.
If you say that homosexuality is wrong, you're saying that these people can't be who they are. All because of your own dislike of it.
Yeah, I know... just like paedophiles who act with the conscent of the child... it's who they are! They're just acting upon natural instincts!
Is self-control such a bad thing? Maybe paedophilia's just as genetic as homosexuality! Why don't we say that's fine? Because it is viewed as morally wrong, and we feel the kids are not old enough to conscent.
I remeber this other guy who said that certain people were not right... he tried to get rid of them. What was his name again? Oh, yeah: Hitler. You're discriminating in the same way, only you're not killing them.
Or taking away rights. He's merely saying it's immoral. And you're telling him that it's perfectly fine/moral. I don't get it.
With gay marriage, you can debate it because there are many legal issues and certain moral ones that ariseon eithe side of the argument, but it's never against the people themselves. Saying homosexuality is wrong is against people though.
Why?
You'll notice there are no laws against people being gay. THat's because the government understands that they're people, and that their love is their choice. They know that they can't outright ban it because 1) You can ban something and all of a sudden people aren't who they are anymore and 2) You can't ban something because it makes people who they are.
It's probably just because the government understands that it's a freedom, that we should not infringe on, unless it is affecting us DIRECTLY.
Finally, if you believe it's wrong because they can't make babies, well then go fight contraceptives, abortion, and anything else that dissallows pregnancy/birth. You'll have a tough time there. You can't say that they're not making babies, so it's wrong without saying that everyone who doesn't make babies when they have sex is in the wrong. Why? That's discrimination. Discrimination is bad.
He's not saying that homosexuals are bad. He's saying homosexuality is bad. IE. Abortion is generally bad. Not the people who abort.
Endning note: No one else has actually agreed with you, and there's 2 pages worth of posts against you. Do you maybe think there's a reason for that?
Because many of the mature people are probably sitting out (not that you people aren't mature, I'm just saying that many of them are likely sitting it out). That's my guess.
If it's biological, then it IS natural. Make up your mind, please.
Never heard of a biological disorder? It's an abnormal (read: unnatural) occurance. IE. being born without a limb. Not supposed to happen, does sometimes.
Btw, I'm actually "pro" gay marriage or anything, so don't get me wrong. I have nothing against homosexuality and such, regardless of what I'm posting.
And you are making a strong arguement. It seems that many of these people in here have a siren that goes off in their head (thank you liberal media) when they see something like this. "A minority could be offended!" But since when does anyone flip out about a homosexual saying that hetorosexuality is wrong? We all just roll our eyes because we have grown up. It's not worth debating. There's nothing wrong with thinking that homosexuality is wrong. There is a problem with discrimination and holding major bias against them becuase of it (use righteous judgement, not promiscous).
I wonder how one counters this.
Well... no one's been able to do it!
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