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Re: Smoking
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2006, 08:38:36 pm »
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In new york state, smoking any product in a public area is illegal. Its very nice to live here, no more smoke in resteraunts and ect. Only problem is people go right outside the door of a place to smoke. People who work at kfc smoke right outside the door, it scares people away. Really though, all of you should move to new york state.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2006, 08:55:07 pm »
K, more then half the western region smokes.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2006, 08:58:09 pm »
K, more then half the western region smokes.
Backup stats?
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2006, 09:00:16 pm »
I'm to lazy to find something right nw but when I get back from karate I will.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2006, 09:01:26 pm »
I'm to lazy to find something right nw but when I get back from karate I will.
In the future, I'd appreciate you "finding something" previous to posting :)

It would help immensly ;)
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2006, 09:25:10 pm »
I'd also like to point out that "I'm too lazy" is not a valid excuse. It is against the rules to post statistics without facts.

Next time please provide the proof before you post.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2006, 10:19:58 pm »
Does anybody know whether smoking is worse in the USA or the rest of the world?  Because I remember in italy, a 9 or so year old asked me for a cigarette XD
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2006, 10:37:05 pm »
Does anybody know whether smoking is worse in the USA or the rest of the world?  Because I remember in italy, a 9 or so year old asked me for a cigarette XD
I'd assume that Europe is worse from past experience.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2006, 01:25:28 am »
Ban smoking.

It's not really funny that a nine year old would come up to you and ask you for a cigarette. That's just sad. And, yeah, from that, it seems that the USA is pretty easy on smoking.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2006, 01:43:29 am »
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Realistically, a downright smoking ban will never happen. First, people would revolt, and second the big and powerful heads of the tobacco companies wouldn't let it happen. Cutting it off cold-turkey is not the way to go. Instead, it has to be phased out. It's already being started, in fact. Joeshmo said that there's a ban on smoking in public in New York. Well, that ban will be here in Montreal soon too. The beauty of the ban is that everything is cleaner, it's much less likely that you have to hold your breath or die when going to school, and best of all, the smoking companies won't complain since cigarettes are still being sold. People can buy them and smoke them, just not anywhere public! The innocent people who would be submitted to second-hand smoke are spared, and those that poison themselves can do so alone. With the drop in public smoking, it's possible in theory that teenagers will see it less and fewer will consider it. Eventually, smokers will be all but eliminated, and those that aren't would be secluded. Along with this and the other tactics, like raising the taxes and prices on cigarettes to ridiculous levels, Smoking will eventually not be a problem.

I heard once that somone wanted to put a ban on selling cigarettes, but that won't work. The companies wouldn't stand for it and neither would the people - especially if they were forced to go through withdrawal because of the sudden lack of nicotine.

And, if all else fails we can round them up into rooms filled with hydrogen and dare them to light up >:D.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2006, 09:55:40 am »
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I wonder, if people just put random stuff thats much less harmful to you in cigs, would people still smoke them?

Or is it part of the kick that you are smoking poison !@#$%. Cuz some folk smoke it to calm down and relax and such.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2006, 10:45:16 am »
and best of all, the smoking companies won't complain since cigarettes are still being sold.

They would complain, since they'd realise it'd cut down cigarette sales.

People can buy them and smoke them, just not anywhere public! The innocent people who would be submitted to second-hand smoke are spared, and those that poison themselves can do so alone. With the drop in public smoking, it's possible in theory that teenagers will see it less and fewer will consider it. Eventually, smokers will be all but eliminated, and those that aren't would be secluded. Along with this and the other tactics, like raising the taxes and prices on cigarettes to ridiculous levels, Smoking will eventually not be a problem.

Yeah, but putting a high tax on cigarettes is usually unfair- this will affect the low income groups more than the high income groups. Not only are low income groups more likely to smoke- poor education, etc.- taxes on goods also make up a higher percentage of their total income than of the high income groups. You know it makes sense.

I heard once that somone wanted to put a ban on selling cigarettes, but that won't work. The companies wouldn't stand for it and neither would the people - especially if they were forced to go through withdrawal because of the sudden lack of nicotine.

Meh. Their own fault really. They could get patches, or gum. They don't really have a right to pollute the air with carcinogens, just like I don't have a right to !@#$% in their mouths (without their permission).
And, if all else fails we can round them up into rooms filled with hydrogen and dare them to light up >:D.

I find leaving the taps off the oxygen tanks works better.

I wonder, if people just put random stuff thats much less harmful to you in cigs, would people still smoke them?

Or is it part of the kick that you are smoking poison !@#$%. Cuz some folk smoke it to calm down and relax and such.

Reminds of this kid running up to class, completely out of breath and sayin' "'Cor, I'm puffed. I need a !@#$%"... and just thinking "Dude, you're out of breath BECAUSE you smoke".
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2006, 12:16:25 pm »
I really do think that people should know that there's CARBON MONOXIDE and ROCKET FUEL in their cigarettes.

Do you think that they REALLY stop advertising? There's ads in every magazine that a kid reads for cigarettes. Take for instance, Camel. In a kid's magazine, they had a camel smoking a cigarette and playing poker at a casino. These kids will think, "Hey, that looks pretty cool!" and go out and smoke! 11% of all U.S. middle-schoolers SMOKE! IT'S NUTS!
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2006, 02:31:13 pm »
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Can't wait till the ban on smoking in public places comes into action over here. One thing I hate about going out, (To the pub, or clubs or whatever) is coming out stinking of smoke. -_-
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2006, 02:51:19 pm »
I really do think that people should know that there's CARBON MONOXIDE and ROCKET FUEL in their cigarettes.

Technically, there's no Carbon Monoxide in the cigarettes; that's a by-product of smoking them. The carbon cannot combust fully, so CO is produced.

11% of all U.S. middle-schoolers SMOKE! IT'S NUTS!

It's peer pressure.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2006, 11:21:57 pm »
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Helping someone to take suicide is illegal (duh <___<). Smoking and all of that stuff should be banned.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2006, 12:54:49 am »
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The issue is really whether or not the non-smoker has a choice in this.  Do they want to breathe in the second-hand smoke?  No, but some arrogant smoker is breathing smoke right in front of them.  Considering that about 2/3 of the cancer-causing chemicals are in second-hand smoke, I think that this violates the rights of the person who chose not to smoke.

Why the hell are there restaraunts with smoking sections and non-smoking sections?  A smoker would say that it provides equallity.  Well, they are wrong.  The air in the restaraunt is often circulating throughout the room, getting into everyone's section.  It would be like if somebody peed in a swimming pool.  There is no non-pee section as the pee circulates through the whole pool.
You're so correct. Passive smoking pisses me off.

I completely agree. Smoking in a public place of ANY kind should be banned.

WTF does it do for you? Nothing. No buzz, no benifits, it just harms you. I'd rather see people smokin pot, at least it does something for them. Plus there's less chemicals in it.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2006, 12:59:07 am »
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Helping someone to take suicide is illegal (duh <___<). Smoking and all of that stuff should be banned.

Then so should Soda, fast food, knives, broken glass, drain cleaner, razors. Hell anything that can be harmful to someone's body should be banned. Whats next, are you going to ban rope because people use it to hang them self's with. If someone wants to smoke they have the right to do what they god damn please.

I can't wait till they ban alcohol since it's harmful to your body and you know that the government wont have any of that because people won't mind their own business. Look how that turned out in the 20's. Banning things just because they are harmful to your heath will not work. If I'm 18 and I want to smoke and give myself cancer i will..... it's called freedom. If the government has the right to draft me and send me to war against my will.I want to have the f'ing right to do to my body what ever the hell I please, be it drinking beer or puffing down a cigarette.

Btw i don't smoke.
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2006, 02:49:45 am »
Drinking is bad for you ;_;

>_> Sorry I just had to say that.  (people make such a big deal out of smoking, nobody talks about how dangerous over-drinking is :()


And yes, revan has a good point, I was going to say the same thing :P
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Re: Smoking
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2006, 02:58:33 am »
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And another thing, My father smoked for 30 years and he recently went to the doctor and they did a full examination of his lungs and it showed his lungs were as clean as a non smoker. My grandmother and grandfather smoked every single day of thier lives but lived to be past thier 70's niether of which deaths were smoking related. My great grandmother lived to 93 and died of old age and my great aunt lived to be 87. I think smoking is like everthing else, it reacts differently to ever person.
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