I've seen some tournament matches on Brawl Central. Basically, there is a referee (that would be you Reg.) and the two combatants. The ref will kill his/herself and so you can record a match. Maybe Contest #5 should be a Smash Tourney!
EDIT: 1st prize could be some Rupees and a Wii Points Card. 2nd prize, Rupees. 3rd prize, not as many Rupees. Sound fair?
You could just buy it and give them the numbers via PM.I've seen some tournament matches on Brawl Central. Basically, there is a referee (that would be you Reg.) and the two combatants. The ref will kill his/herself and so you can record a match. Maybe Contest #5 should be a Smash Tourney!
EDIT: 1st prize could be some Rupees and a Wii Points Card. 2nd prize, Rupees. 3rd prize, not as many Rupees. Sound fair?
Some people don't like giving out their address, so there could be a problem there. :P But I want to be in a tourney. XD
I've seen some tournament matches on Brawl Central. Basically, there is a referee (that would be you Reg.) and the two combatants. The ref will kill his/herself and so you can record a match. Maybe Contest #5 should be a Smash Tourney!
EDIT: 1st prize could be some Rupees and a Wii Points Card. 2nd prize, Rupees. 3rd prize, not as many Rupees. Sound fair?
Some people don't like giving out their address, so there could be a problem there. :P But I want to be in a tourney. XD
You can gift games and channels but you can't gift Wii Points. If you could, that would be cool.I've seen some tournament matches on Brawl Central. Basically, there is a referee (that would be you Reg.) and the two combatants. The ref will kill his/herself and so you can record a match. Maybe Contest #5 should be a Smash Tourney!
EDIT: 1st prize could be some Rupees and a Wii Points Card. 2nd prize, Rupees. 3rd prize, not as many Rupees. Sound fair?
Some people don't like giving out their address, so there could be a problem there. :P But I want to be in a tourney. XD
Cant you gift Wii Points if I remember correctly?
You can gift games and channels but you can't gift Wii Points. If you could, that would be cool.I've seen some tournament matches on Brawl Central. Basically, there is a referee (that would be you Reg.) and the two combatants. The ref will kill his/herself and so you can record a match. Maybe Contest #5 should be a Smash Tourney!
EDIT: 1st prize could be some Rupees and a Wii Points Card. 2nd prize, Rupees. 3rd prize, not as many Rupees. Sound fair?
Some people don't like giving out their address, so there could be a problem there. :P But I want to be in a tourney. XD
Cant you gift Wii Points if I remember correctly?
How would it be captured? DVD recorder, video camera, webcam?It would be a video camera that i would use to film the matches.
If you record off of a HDTV with a video camera, you'd get a better quality shot then a normal TV. Just pointing something out just in case.I do not believe I have an HDTV, but I do have a big screen TV.
Why not have it 1 vs 1 with a spectator that dodges all hits (doesn't matter if they get hit, really) that is a witness?If you die, you can still watch. If the point for the observer is to not get hit, the best way for the observer to do this is to be dead.
Why not have it 1 vs 1 with a spectator that dodges all hits (doesn't matter if they get hit, really) that is a witness?Everyone who joins would have to have my friend code and it will be stock matches only, I'll kill myself off at the beggining and just watch. Also I'd probably just film one match for each round.
So what day and time?Geez Louise! Can't you wait a bit? It's gonna span at least a week and a half.
So, should we organize this now? Sign ups would be a good idea right now.So what day and time?Geez Louise! Can't you wait a bit? It's gonna span at least a week and a half.
We aren't going to organize now as we need more people who are interested in this before so. Also i did want it to be like the Character competition, Like it would show in the place of the characters would be the character you are using in the competition, and where the %'s would go in the CC would be the username.So, should we organize this now? Sign ups would be a good idea right now.So what day and time?Geez Louise! Can't you wait a bit? It's gonna span at least a week and a half.
EDIT: We could have divisions like the Character Competition.
Why not compile a list of people who'd be interested around the forum? For the character image, we could use the different character colours thanks to rips from Spriter's Resource. The setup wouldn't be too hard anyway.We aren't going to organize now as we need more people who are interested in this before so. Also i did want it to be like the Character competition, Like it would show in the place of the characters would be the character you are using in the competition, and where the %'s would go in the CC would be the username.So, should we organize this now? Sign ups would be a good idea right now.So what day and time?Geez Louise! Can't you wait a bit? It's gonna span at least a week and a half.
EDIT: We could have divisions like the Character Competition.
The character images we'd use there mugshots from the dojo.Why not compile a list of people who'd be interested around the forum? For the character image, we could use the different character colours thanks to rips from Spriter's Resource. The setup wouldn't be too hard anyway.We aren't going to organize now as we need more people who are interested in this before so. Also i did want it to be like the Character competition, Like it would show in the place of the characters would be the character you are using in the competition, and where the %'s would go in the CC would be the username.So, should we organize this now? Sign ups would be a good idea right now.So what day and time?Geez Louise! Can't you wait a bit? It's gonna span at least a week and a half.
EDIT: We could have divisions like the Character Competition.
Why don't we use the correct character colours that people use? It'd be easy and we could just add in a background behind them. I don't mind doing it because it's not a hard job though there are a lot of character colours.The character images we'd use there mugshots from the dojo.Why not compile a list of people who'd be interested around the forum? For the character image, we could use the different character colours thanks to rips from Spriter's Resource. The setup wouldn't be too hard anyway.We aren't going to organize now as we need more people who are interested in this before so. Also i did want it to be like the Character competition, Like it would show in the place of the characters would be the character you are using in the competition, and where the %'s would go in the CC would be the username.So, should we organize this now? Sign ups would be a good idea right now.So what day and time?Geez Louise! Can't you wait a bit? It's gonna span at least a week and a half.
EDIT: We could have divisions like the Character Competition.
I'd hope we won't have duplicates, and if you want you can do it like that.Why don't we use the correct character colours that people use? It'd be easy and we could just add in a background behind them. I don't mind doing it because it's not a hard job though there are a lot of character colours.The character images we'd use there mugshots from the dojo.Why not compile a list of people who'd be interested around the forum? For the character image, we could use the different character colours thanks to rips from Spriter's Resource. The setup wouldn't be too hard anyway.We aren't going to organize now as we need more people who are interested in this before so. Also i did want it to be like the Character competition, Like it would show in the place of the characters would be the character you are using in the competition, and where the %'s would go in the CC would be the username.So, should we organize this now? Sign ups would be a good idea right now.So what day and time?Geez Louise! Can't you wait a bit? It's gonna span at least a week and a half.
EDIT: We could have divisions like the Character Competition.
Are you talking about if people just happen to be the same character and same colour? It would still be easy to figure out with the usernames underneath the character image.I'd hope we won't have duplicates, and if you want you can do it like that.Why don't we use the correct character colours that people use? It'd be easy and we could just add in a background behind them. I don't mind doing it because it's not a hard job though there are a lot of character colours.The character images we'd use there mugshots from the dojo.Why not compile a list of people who'd be interested around the forum? For the character image, we could use the different character colours thanks to rips from Spriter's Resource. The setup wouldn't be too hard anyway.We aren't going to organize now as we need more people who are interested in this before so. Also i did want it to be like the Character competition, Like it would show in the place of the characters would be the character you are using in the competition, and where the %'s would go in the CC would be the username.So, should we organize this now? Sign ups would be a good idea right now.So what day and time?Geez Louise! Can't you wait a bit? It's gonna span at least a week and a half.
EDIT: We could have divisions like the Character Competition.
You could use the character stock icons and then use the lettering from the stage names to do something like this:I like that actually. That would look allot cooler in my opinion.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/4Sword/tournygifu3.gif)
Although, it would be simpler to list the names how the online system already has it set up, as some names are huge and assembling an image bracket would be complicated (i.e. Takuthehedgehog, Hammer Bro. Mike, CrystalAngel04, Regulustheheroic, Takuthehedgehog, etc)
-Myself, obviously...but i won't compete...?12 people are for this idea...we could do with another couple people.
-4Sword
-CrystalAngel04
-Fissure
-Scooternew
-Hammer Bro. Mike
-MG Zero
-Zero Beat(Sora)
-luigi
-Jetstorm4
-Kylink
-Takuthehedgehog
Add me, but when will this happen?Well we should give a little bit of time like maybe a week for people to train up for it.
-Myself, obviously...but i won't compete...?
-4Sword
-CrystalAngel04
-Fissure
-Scooternew
-Hammer Bro. Mike
-MG Zero
-Zero Beat(Sora)
-luigi
-Jetstorm4
-Kylink
-Takuthehedgehog
-LynkW
Add me, but when will this happen?Well we should give a little bit of time like maybe a week for people to train up for it.
Everyone who is interested in a brawl tourney:Quote-Myself, obviously...but i won't compete...?
-4Sword
-CrystalAngel04
-Fissure
-Scooternew
-Hammer Bro. Mike
-MG Zero
-Zero Beat(Sora)
-luigi
-Jetstorm4
-Kylink
-Takuthehedgehog
-LynkW
I'd rather go by our user names. Like since it's 5 letters it should fit peoples user names for some examples: 4Swrd, Luigi(duh, lol), BUSTR, etc. Also I'm gonna make a new youtube account called something like "ZFGC Brawl Tourney" or something along those lines.Add me, but when will this happen?Well we should give a little bit of time like maybe a week for people to train up for it.
Everyone who is interested in a brawl tourney:Quote-Myself, obviously...but i won't compete...?
-4Sword
-CrystalAngel04
-Fissure
-Scooternew
-Hammer Bro. Mike
-MG Zero
-Zero Beat(Sora)
-luigi
-Jetstorm4
-Kylink
-Takuthehedgehog
-LynkW
Are we going to be using our ZFGC names, (some shortened) or use our Brawl names on the brackets?
Um... where am I? I only see a LinkW ;)
jk
Also, i call blue kirby.
Are the matches going to be 1 vs. 1, 1 vs. 1 vs. 1, or 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1?
I think we should go by Brawl names and then make a list showing which user it is for the brackets. The videos would be fine though because we could use usernames in the title and/or description or something like that.
We use Brawl names in the brackets but make a list of everyone participating showing the username and brawl name for each person.Are the matches going to be 1 vs. 1, 1 vs. 1 vs. 1, or 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1?
I think we should go by Brawl names and then make a list showing which user it is for the brackets. The videos would be fine though because we could use usernames in the title and/or description or something like that.
Do you mean use our normal Brawl names in the game, but use our ZFGC names in the brackets?
yall niggas suck at brawlwoah guy! easy there!
eatadickOkay, I just made a quick bracket with no real thought in it. I just used the names listed above.das gay
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/jonny-boy333/bracket-example.png)You could use the character stock icons and then use the lettering from the stage names to do something like this:das tite
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/4Sword/tournygifu3.gif)
Although, it would be simpler to list the names how the online system already has it set up, as some names are huge and assembling an image bracket would be complicated (i.e. Takuthehedgehog, Hammer Bro. Mike, CrystalAngel04, Regulustheheroic, Takuthehedgehog, etc)
yall niggas suck at brawl
eatadickOkay, I just made a quick bracket with no real thought in it. I just used the names listed above.das gay
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/jonny-boy333/bracket-example.png)
Here's my example for how it could be setup:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/conkerslandx/zfgc-brawl-example.png)Quote
That's actually good. If this is going to start next week/weekend, we're going to need to get all the people the want to join to say here, or tell whoever's making the bracket. And we need to establish the style, depending on the amount of people. If we had like 24 people, we could do something like this:
-- g -|
-- f -|
-- d -| ------|
-- v -| |
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-- c -| |
-- b -| -- f -|
-- n -|---- -- c -|------ -- c
-- m -| -- q -|
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-- q -| |
-- e -|-------|
-- r -|
-- t -|
Then it would be the same on the other side. First matches could be 4, then next could be 3. then for the last 2.
The matches will be 1 on 1 with myself reffing, unless either Kylink or myself is playing it in which we won't need a referee.Sounds good to me. Why are you calling characters anyway? Anyway, I call Red Link.
Also I call Dark Green/Red Lucas.
I don't see why people should have to "call" characters... I mean really... your name is on top of them in battle so you wont get confused. lolYeah, that's true. We should be able to be whoever we want. Then again, there aren't many playing and I can only see a couple people using the same character.
I don't see why people should have to "call" characters... I mean really... your name is on top of them in battle so you wont get confused. lolWell i did that only because I don't want someone else using my color..I'd also not want someone else to use Lucas...but i have a feeling luigi probably will but w/e.
Regulus has a better bracket system that he set up that he showed me, but I will let him show you as this is all his idea.(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/4Sword/brackettemp-1.jpg)
I bet some of those friendcodes for that list are somewhere on this forum, probably in the Gaming and Entertainment sections.
I played in a tournament once at my university with the Legal/Illegal rules + Random Scenario with certain items and it sucked ass... If it weren't for the fact you were limited by character dependant on the scenario I would have owned some serious male ass... So I agree with Regulus's decision in random stages but maybe items on medium? *shrugs*Well I'll put up a poll on it.
@Regulus
My Brawl Code is in my signature. Username is CANGL and Character is normal Lucario
No items, seriously.There should be no items. The only item I'd want on is Smash Balls on low.
don't you actually want a fair fight?
I'd rather it be fun than fair. Items will be on no matter what if you really want it as fair as possible then they'd be on low but there still will be items.
Fine no items but it will be random stages. It's not going to be one of those gay tourneys where all the fun is taken out for the sake of fairness.I'd rather it be fun than fair. Items will be on no matter what if you really want it as fair as possible then they'd be on low but there still will be items.
There's little point in having a tourney if you're not going to make it fair. then it wouldn't really be tourney but zfgc fun timey.
If you're playing to find out who's the best on ZFGC, then it shouldn't be a game of "who can throw the most pokeballs"
Fine no items but it will be random stages. It's not going to be one of those gay tourneys where all the fun is taken out for the sake of fairness.I'd rather it be fun than fair. Items will be on no matter what if you really want it as fair as possible then they'd be on low but there still will be items.
There's little point in having a tourney if you're not going to make it fair. then it wouldn't really be tourney but zfgc fun timey.
If you're playing to find out who's the best on ZFGC, then it shouldn't be a game of "who can throw the most pokeballs"
(http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam/angry.gif) Fine no items and no banned stages...that's as far as I'm going.Fine no items but it will be random stages. It's not going to be one of those gay tourneys where all the fun is taken out for the sake of fairness.I'd rather it be fun than fair. Items will be on no matter what if you really want it as fair as possible then they'd be on low but there still will be items.
There's little point in having a tourney if you're not going to make it fair. then it wouldn't really be tourney but zfgc fun timey.
If you're playing to find out who's the best on ZFGC, then it shouldn't be a game of "who can throw the most pokeballs"
If we were playing for fun we wouldn't be having a tourney.
That sounds fine to me.(http://www.zfgc.com/forum/Smileys/takam/angry.gif) Fine no items and no banned stages...that's as far as I'm going.Fine no items but it will be random stages. It's not going to be one of those gay tourneys where all the fun is taken out for the sake of fairness.I'd rather it be fun than fair. Items will be on no matter what if you really want it as fair as possible then they'd be on low but there still will be items.
There's little point in having a tourney if you're not going to make it fair. then it wouldn't really be tourney but zfgc fun timey.
If you're playing to find out who's the best on ZFGC, then it shouldn't be a game of "who can throw the most pokeballs"
If we were playing for fun we wouldn't be having a tourney.
I don't know much about how online for brawl works, but stages built using the stage builder should be banned, too many times I've seen a game played where the user has created a level which gives the character he's using an overwhelming advantage.I don't even know how to use Stage builder stages online.
You can't play on Stage Builder stages online, only the 41 stages available minus the banned ones, lol. All stages minus the Stage Builder stages can be played on.I don't know much about how online for brawl works, but stages built using the stage builder should be banned, too many times I've seen a game played where the user has created a level which gives the character he's using an overwhelming advantage.I don't even know how to use Stage builder stages online.
EDIT: I would also like to mention that because of the vast interest in a brawl tourney 4Sword is going to be helping me in it.
I just remembered sora is banned so maybe i could get my good friend R.O.B. also known as m to replace him?
He hasn't been on for awhile but he has posted more than once.
Neither can be in, sorry. They have to be members that have been here awhile.
15(16 counting Sora).Neither can be in, sorry. They have to be members that have been here awhile.
Oh okay. So how many people are in anyways?
Depending on the schedule that I am finishing up and will have done by tonight or tomorrow morning, it will either be a week from now or a little bit after that. There will be enough notice of its beginning though so that it will not catch anyone off-guard. You see, I have to have a schedule planned out and then I have to place people into it accounting for the times that they cannot participate; Regulus also has to be a factor in that if he is unable to do the filming a certain day, then the match can't happen. After all, why do anything if you can't see it?
Also, I was thinking that the user images that made earlier in this topic were pretty simple and clean, so depending on how things go, Regulus and I might be requiring your assistance to finish those images up.
Also, if there is anyone reading this topic who hasn't done so already, please provide the needed information of:
- Brawl Username
- Character and Color
- Brawl Friendcode
We still need information from Jetstorm4, LynkW, Reo, and Swiftu (also Sora, but he seems to be away for awhile).
Oh, sorry about that. I did input your information into the total information that Regulus, Hammer Bro. Mike, and I have gathered. I probably should have been more cordial in letting you know that I had indeed received the information, so sorry for that on my part. Thanks again for supplying it though.No problem.
There are already two Toon Links with one of them being the normal color as it is, so I would say no.
I'd rather there not be 3 toon links. :/
... >:( Is this your tourney?I'd rather there not be 3 toon links. :/
I'd rather not care since there are more than 2 colors for Toon link and it's pretty inconsequential anyway.
Swiftu, really, it is too late to change anything. Not only would changing your character to Toon Link make it so there were three Toon Links in the tournament, but Hammer Bro. Mike who handles the images would have to redo the images for your information, and at this stage in planning, such things should be impractical. If we let you change your information now, then that would open the door for everyone to change their information, and this would be chaos. Your current choice is a good one and one that I know you will do good with. Heck, when I last played you, I lost frequently to you because you kept raping my face with Diddy's moves. Diddy Kong is arguably your best character.When i said gay i mean stupid.
Anyway, yeah, that is what I think. Also, Regulus, using the term "gay" like that is kind of unjustified and demeaning to those of that lifestyle.
When i said gay i mean stupid.
Sure diddy is okay, but he lacks any good launching moves.Do you have any idea how boring it would be for the viewer of the matches to see Toon Link after Toon Link after Toon Link? This limitation has to be put in place for a good tournament to work. Look, I sent you PMs at least twice asking what character you wanted and you are very active on the forum and then you finally got back to me on it late. You could have secured yourself a Toon Link, but you did not. You chose Diddy, and right now the images have been made and we should not have to backtrack now.
And why would it matter if there were 3 toon links or 5? I should be able to use whatever I feel that I need to win.
| ZFGC Username | Brawl Username | Character Choice/Color | Brawl Friendcode |
| Regulust (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2122) | REGLS | Lucas - Dark Green/Red | 1719-2890-8017 |
| 4Sword (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=89) | 4SWOR | Snake - Blue | 0688-4934-4413 |
| Kylink (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=381) | Kyle | Falco - Black | 1719-2890-8017 |
| FISSURE (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=447) | Fiss | Pit - Normal | 2492-4217-0123 |
| CrystalAngel04 (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=93) | CANGL | Lucario - Normal | 0989-1429-3186 |
| Hammer Bro. Mike (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1063) | NOB | Link - Red | 3523-1727-8440 |
| Scooternew (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=96) | Scott | Toon Link - Black | 4682-8111-7308 |
| MG-Zero (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=81) | Stove | Toon Link - Normal | 2449-4292-3277 |
| luigi (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1861) | Jon | Lucas - Claus | 3523-1727-8440 |
| Nintendo Maniac 64 (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=122) | NM64 | Marth - Normal | 1848-1352-0543 |
| Takuthehedgehog (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=64) | Taku | Snake - Normal | 2964-8243-6562 |
| Jetstorm4 (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=145) | Jet4 | Sonic - Normal | 0044-2516-0315 |
| Swiftu (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=154) | Clint | Toon Link - Red | 4682-8114-3409 |
| a Hint of Lime (Limey) (http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1438) | LIMEY | Toon Link - Classic Brown/Green | 3093-6752-2953 |
Look, I am just thinking about the people who do not play at all but will probably be watching. They are just as important as those who are participating, well, a little less as they are not as dedicated but still need to be drawn in.
As for all the comments to people who think I am over-thinking this, I spill ideas out of my head and if you read my last post before this one, I was tearing apart my own arguments due to me being reasonable. The argument for changing characters for the sake of diversity is a little weird, yes, but my issue with Swiftu was that he was changing his character so late and after all the information was sent out no less. There has to be a lock-down to prevent people from changing at the last minute obviously. Ideally, you would be able to select your character with the deadline being before the first match. However, images do have to be made and Hammer Bro. Mike is not going to be on beck and call for flip-flopping for the sake of fear of loss on the minds of the participant. I cannot speak personally about making the images because I am not the one making them, and CrystalAngel04, you are biased in that you happened to do things with images all the time and to you it is just second nature.
As for picking who you can best win with, sure, perhaps I am just a little arrogant in that I could win the whole thing with any character if I prepared well enough. Who knows. Like I said in my last post though, I was basically saying that I was going to send all participants a PM saying that they can change the character if they want with no restrictions, well sort of. I will send that message now. I am realistically thinking that most people went with their first choice, but meh, if you want to nit-pick. Nobody does things for the fun of doing things any more, how droll.
So here is what I am going to do. I will PM all participants with a current list of changes; well with the exception of me, Regulus, and Swiftu as his new choice has told to me through MSN.
Edit: Oh, and thank you for your opinions, Swiftu, CrystalAngel04, and Mamoruanime.
What's the big deal with the number of Toon Links? People should play with their best characters. Matches wouldn't be more interesting if there were a more diverse list of characters, matches will be more interesting if people are playing at their best.I used to play as Toon Link but my main motive for this game was to play as Link and I'm playing as him again.
Anyway, I'd like to stay Toon Link, black.
I'm not changing either. I'm staying as Red Link. It's kinda funny how the red looks pink on him, lol. I have no clue why.I was arguing with myself whether or not to play as Green Wolf...but I'm so much better as Lucas and it'd be a dumb move on my part.
I'm so proud to be the sole Lucario (Feel the power of Aura! Kamehame-ha! What's his power level? It's over 9000!!! Ok I'll stop. >.>)
lol I think for everyone's benefit they should play some random online matches these next few days leading up to the tourny so they can get used to the possibility of lag. I've learned that even the slightest lag can REALLY throw off your timing so you go from ass kicking to noob pretty easily but after a few rounds you can get used to this.
I'm very much hoping that this tourney has no items and is 4 stock matches, either no time limit or 8 minute time limit - MLG regulation rules.It's no items 4 stock yes. Only FD, Battle field and Smashville will be course choices(I'll always play on Smashville fyi).
Anyway, does anyone have suggestions for speeding up my internet for Brawl? I'm worried there will be so much lag it'll be unplayable. My SSBM is notorious for having really slow online play.
So you don't really get any lag doing that? Usually, for me, the game plays smoothly, but there is around a quarter to half a second for a button press on the controller to register with the game.99% of the time my online matches are like that; I'm pretty sure it's just the lack of quite fast broadband (mainly the widespread use of copper wiring and the lack of fiber optic lines) in the US :P (that is assuming you live in the US and don't have FiOS...)
Yeah it's starting tomorrow.So you don't really get any lag doing that? Usually, for me, the game plays smoothly, but there is around a quarter to half a second for a button press on the controller to register with the game.99% of the time my online matches are like that; I'm pretty sure it's just the lack of quite fast broadband (mainly the widespread use of copper wiring and the lack of fiber optic lines) in the US :P (that is assuming you live in the US and don't have FiOS...)
6/7/08 EDIT: So... any news updates on the tourney? Regulus said that it'd be starting on the 8th and that's tomorrow...