And Yes they do communicate with each other. As they live in Packs, not solitary
That they live in packs has nothing to do with verbal communication.
No, the fact that they use vocal chords to communicate specific ideas does though.
Nevermind that, he'll just reply with something like "My conviction proves I'm right"
Dude, wow. You sure have some issues with Christianity, huh? That is sad.
And you have some serious issues with the real world. I bet you really wish you could live inside your bible...
You addressed leviathan as a form of the devil in Eden - well, Leviathan wasn't mentioned in Genesis. Not once. He was supposedly a creature created by God, not the devil.
Form of, not created by. Form of.
"The serpent said to the woman, 'You surely will not die!'" -- Genesis 3:4
The literal translation of serpent here was leviathan.
No, the leviathan was not a "serpent" - it was a multiheaded sea creature that breathed fire, and was
specifically listed among real, mundane animals. Please excuse me if I don't think it's either a) the devil or b) ever been real.
And still, satyrs, behemoth and ziz!
They use vocal chords to communicate a language, therefore it's speech.
So you really think there's no difference between human communication and monkey grunts? And you really think there isn't a difference in human thought vs animal thought? You lose my respect.
There is a difference, but it's not as large a difference as you'd like to think. Why do you want humans to be that different? We're not. We're animals too.
But not by me because I haven't looked into these in the least because you can't give me any frikkin' citations.
What do you want? Airplane tickets to Mexico City so you can observe it yourself?
No, I'd like a
proper citation. Any idea what that means or do I have to explain it to you?
No, she really wasn't. Mother of Jesus, not the same thing. Maybe to some christians, but certaintly not to Jewish or Islamic people, who still believe Jesus was a great man, but ultimately just a man.
Again, don't go into a religious debate as unarmed and ignorant as you are in the topic. ALL CHRISTIANS believe Jesus was true God and true man. 100% of both.
But not all Christians believe Mary was the mother of God, because there is a divide between God and Jesus.
Jesus was not God. He was a man.
Since you have no knowledge at all in the subject you're talking about, any statements you make are obviously going to be baseless and solely based on how you feel about them. Good example here.
No, I'm using historical evidence. What have you been using the whole time? a) Your feelings. b) The bible.
I said most, and since when is a piece of cloth a miracle? It's a piece of cloth a few scientists couldn't explain. Bring on the lightning bolts, buddy.
A piece of cloth that on which an image of Mary appeared as they were looking at AND REMAINS TO THIS DAY. And I'll say it again since you blatantly disregarded it: the cloth should have disintegrated over a hundred years ago, but hasn't.
It's a picture, not a miracle. And just because something should've happened, doesn't mean it will; someone should've slapped some sense into you, but they clearly didn't.
No, a scientist who fails to explain a piece of cloth isn't doing his job right.
You're questioning scientists in a field they know well about simply because you don't agree with them when you yourself don't know anything about it? "Isn't doing his job right"? Ouch.
They're scientists. It's their job to explain things in rational, scientific terms. They fail to do so, they're failing to do their job.
Come on, if He really wanted to prove He existed, he'd stick his signature in a Fjord or something. Like Slartibartfast did.
Umn.. OK? Yeah, not really.
It was a Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy reference; Slartibartfast helped design Earth and so stuck his name inside a glacier to prove he was involved. In a later book, they find God's final message to His Creation, which is giant burning letters reading "We Are Sorry For The Inconvenience."
What I'm seeing is, if God really wanted people to believe in Him, he really could've created a world where it's a lot more obvious it was artificially designed.
Please don't, that's rather patronising.
Try and stop me.
Very mature.
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And especially considering that most of the bible stories were passed down by word of mouth long after the actual events. If I recall correctly, the earliest Gospel wasn't written until well after Jesus' (final) death.
That may have had some credibility if you were to discount Sacred Tradition. But as it stands, nope.
Actually, I have a lot of credibility, considering the earliest date (that is generally agreed among credible historians, not Christian scholars with a bias) for any of the gospels is well into the latter half of the first century; in other words, well after Jesus died.
Also, the credibility of even the earliest bibles is called into question; the First Council of Nicaea actually decided Jesus' divinity, nearly 300 years after he died.
EDIT: And oh, Jesus is still alive. ;D
Even if he hadn't been crucified, people just don't live that long.
I mean if theres only one true god, then why are there so many religions
Because people will sometimes choose to believe what they want to believe and sort of have a "pick and choose" sort of belief.
But why are you right and everyone else is wrong?
I mean, your explaination is not as rational as a lot of other people's. Even less so, really.
So when they protect their pack from predators, they just magically know where the !@#$% each one will be? I think not, You sir are cleary the idiot in this case. Research Animals before coming up with unfounded idiotic asumptions.
Again, I was talking about verbal communication in the form of words. Flame me again and I think the mods will take notice.
They didn't notice when you called me "stupid" and "an idiot", etc.
And words are words are words. They communicate a specific idea, therefore, they're words. Just because they're not words you know.
They are very capable of
learning human language as well. A lot of apes can communicate quite well in sign language. You'll probably complain that they didn't invent it, but you didn't invent English; does that make you sub-human?
There isn't much difference between them. Watch how the act in the wild, the way they protect and feed their young, is near enough identical to our way
Again, I'm not talking about instinct or behavioral patterns but higher level human thinking. YOU do some research.
Have you ever met a real human? They lack higher level thinking.
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They'd of preserved it.
The tilma was put behind a glass wall. It has had no treatment to preserve it.
... I'm pretty sure a glass wall would preserve it pretty damn well.
And in case you haven't noticed take a look at any mummy, Preserved to near perfection. O DEER.
The saints I was talking about look like a person who just fell asleep. The preservation is completely flawless.
I'm sorry but your saints are looking about as real as my space lizards right now.
Also, Holidays such as Christmas and Halloween, you claim Christmas to be the celerbration of the Birth of Christ...but yet Christaianity hijacked the holiday from Pagans.
but anyways, it just has the same date it's celebrated. Jesus was approximately born in like 3-4AD (or maybe 3-4BC) in the Spring time.
Easter and Christmas are both pagan festivals; Easter borrows many of the traditions of the feast of the goddess Aestre, and Christmas borrows elements of Yule, the traditional winter solstice festival, and the main feast of the God Mithras (who, incidentally, was born in human form to a virgin, and died so that the sins of his followers could be forgiven. Interestly, Mithrasism predates Christianity).