I hate being a Jack of all trades, but a master at none of them.

Theforeshadower

I hate being a Jack of all trades, but a master ...

« on: June 01, 2008, 12:34:34 am »

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Seriously, it is so hard to concentrate on learning something when you know a little bit of everything.

I keep wanting to learn C++ but everytime I do, I keep thinking,"It'll be easier to make this program in such and such program."

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I know a little HTML, C++, BASIC, C#, etc.

The only program I am comfortable with and am a "master" at is Multimedia Fusion.

Anyone else run into this dilemma of trying to learn something but your other skills fight you because you know you can do things with an easier program?

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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2008, 12:39:18 am »

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Yes I know how you feel

. I do that all the time, and it tends to end badly to, cutting corners is never good. I always site debating for several hours before starting a project if I should go for something like C++ or just cheat and go for a high level language, I usually end up going for the later >.<.

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I keep wanting to learn C++ but everytime I do, I keep thinking,"It'll be easier to make this program in such and such program."

Can you see the staff projects board? If so go have a look at ZFGSDK, might be a good opportunity to learn some C++.

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Windy	Re: I hate being a Jack of all trades, but a mas... « Reply #2 on: June 01, 2008, 12:55:15 am »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Posts: 2245	I just pick what I feel is best for the job. If it's a windows application I'll pick C#, if it's a game I'll use C++, if it needs to be a multi-platform application I'll use Java (unless it's game). Logged

Xiphirx wat	Re: I hate being a Jack of all trades, but a mas... « Reply #3 on: June 01, 2008, 01:34:51 am »
Xiphirx Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3007	Quote from: Theforeshadower on June 01, 2008, 12:34:34 am Seriously, it is so hard to concentrate on learning something when you know a little bit of everything. I keep wanting to learn C++ but everytime I do, I keep thinking,"It'll be easier to make this program in such and such program." I mean: I know a little HTML, C++, BASIC, C#, etc. The only program I am comfortable with and am a "master" at is Multimedia Fusion. Anyone else run into this dilemma of trying to learn something but your other skills fight you because you know you can do things with an easier program? OMG my exact problem! Quote Can you see the staff projects board? If so go have a look at ZFGSDK, might be a good opportunity to learn some C++. :O! wtf is that? Can I see it? Logged
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2008, 07:52:48 am »

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Quote from: [XE] Xiphirx on June 01, 2008, 01:34:51 am

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Can you see the staff projects board? If so go have a look at ZFGSDK, might be a good opportunity to learn some C++.

:O! wtf is that?

Your moms house!

Also, I'm sorta like that, but I weeded out a lot of things and just stopped doing them so I can focus on others

.. I used to do software dev, spriting, music, etc... now I just focus on project management and graphics :p

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Wasabi	Re: I hate being a Jack of all trades, but a mas... « Reply #5 on: June 01, 2008, 08:11:29 am »
Reputation: +3/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3374	I have this problem too. I started to learn c# with making console apps, but when I get new ideas I end up going "well, I can't wait till I know c# better, let's just make it in gamemaker". It's so goddam annoying. I'd like to be able to focus only on music and programming though. Quote from: [XE] Xiphirx on June 01, 2008, 01:34:51 am Quote Can you see the staff projects board? If so go have a look at ZFGSDK, might be a good opportunity to learn some C++. :O! wtf is that? Can I see it? I can see it, and I know why. Chances are you can't though. Logged
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SlimmyG	Re: I hate being a Jack of all trades, but a mas... « Reply #6 on: June 01, 2008, 10:34:11 am »
And if they dont dance, they're no friend of mine Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1338	Im sort of like this with Instruments. I can play a bit of guitar, a (bigger) bit of bass, a bit of keyboard, and a bit of drums. I can play Bass well enough to be in the band, but whenever i try to learn some new guitar, i end up playing bass. Logged
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Dumb_Ass	Re: I hate being a Jack of all trades, but a mas... « Reply #7 on: June 01, 2008, 04:37:25 pm »
Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 2374	That's my problem... everyone's like "LEARN C++ STOP USING GAME MAKER" and I say "!@#$% LEAVE ME ALONE! I'M GOOD AT GAME MAKER AND IT TAKES 2 YEARS TO BE GOOD AT C++ GTFO." Logged

Garoth Moulinoski	Re: I hate being a Jack of all trades, but a mas... « Reply #8 on: June 01, 2008, 09:49:08 pm »
Modrill made the avatar. I command you to like it. Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1159	Quote from: Reo on June 01, 2008, 04:37:25 pm That's my problem... everyone's like "LEARN C++ STOP USING GAME MAKER" and I say "!@#$% LEAVE ME ALONE! I'M GOOD AT GAME MAKER AND IT TAKES 2 YEARS TO BE GOOD AT C++ GTFO." :'( Except that I'd like to learn C++... Logged
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2008, 10:21:29 pm »

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Just give yourself some goals on what you want to learn each week then stick to them. Just because you are using one programming language doesn't mean you have to ditch another. For instance, this week, I am supposed to finish movement in my c# game, start working on my java application and do a few tests in game maker. I am personally best with c#, then game maker and I completely suck with Java, yet I make all my things with a different language regardless of skill.The point is to finish your goals for one language before starting to work with the other ones.

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Xiphirx wat	Re: I hate being a Jack of all trades, but a mas... « Reply #10 on: June 01, 2008, 10:32:10 pm »
Xiphirx Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3007	Quote from: Darklight on June 01, 2008, 08:11:29 am I have this problem too. I started to learn c# with making console apps, but when I get new ideas I end up going "well, I can't wait till I know c# better, let's just make it in gamemaker". It's so goddam annoying. I'd like to be able to focus only on music and programming though. Quote from: [XE] Xiphirx on June 01, 2008, 01:34:51 am Quote Can you see the staff projects board? If so go have a look at ZFGSDK, might be a good opportunity to learn some C++. :O! wtf is that? Can I see it? I can see it, and I know why. Chances are you can't though. Show me know please. anything to help my lazy ass mind to actually learm Logged
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Infinitus

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2008, 10:33:29 pm »

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Quote from: [XE] Xiphirx on June 01, 2008, 10:32:10 pm

Quote from: Darklight on June 01, 2008, 08:11:29 am
I have this problem too. I started to learn c# with making console apps, but when I get new ideas I end up going "well, I can't wait till I know c# better, let's just make it in gamemaker". It's so goddam annoying. I'd like to be able to focus only on music and programming though.
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Can you see the staff projects board? If so go have a look at ZFGSDK, might be a good opportunity to learn some C++.

:O! wtf is that? Can I see it?
I can see it, and I know why. Chances are you can't though.

Show me know please.

anything to help my lazy ass mind to actually learm

Not for your eyes, at least not yet, not until I've put up the SVN and done the design documents's.

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Antidote >.>	Re: I hate being a Jack of all trades, but a mas... « Reply #12 on: June 03, 2008, 12:02:04 am »
In all seriousness who's serious? Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1485	<.< I have the same problem, I know a little pascal, BASIC, Java, C#, C++, C, then the web-based "Languages" HTML and a minute amount of PHP >.> and i'm to lazy to actually make a renderer myself so I either use GameMaker or Irrlicht to avoid the "annoyance" of writing it myself. In reality it's easier to just write what I need myself (unless it's a complicated file format and i don't want to spend countless hours deciphering it and then spend the effort making a library that probably already exists!) Logged

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