Really? I respect your opinion, but really? The songs may be long, but they need to be that long. The music itself is quite orgasmic, but with the lyrics thrown in as well, the song transcends normal music and becomes... something else entirely. And that is a very good thing. They aren't mainstream, they weren't really meant for mainstream. But the band is really awesome. While on the subject, I'm gonna briefly mention APC. Shorter songs, but still quite awesome.