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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2008, 05:51:16 am »
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I can see the election campaign now.

VOTE MINALIEN OR HE'LL EAT YOUR TOAST.

on the issues

MINALIEN VOWS TO GET RID OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!
MINALIEN VOWS THAT ANDREW WILL BE PROSTITUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW
MINALIEN VOWS TO LEGALIZE GAMBLING, ALCOHOL, AND PROSTITUTION

Then, on my inauguration

Suddenly, BREASTS. GIANT ONES. EVERYWHERE.
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There's such a double standard about religion in the modern world. Catholics can gather, wear white robes, and say "In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti" and be considered normal.

But if my friends and I gather, wear black robes, and say  "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn", we're considered cultists.
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2008, 05:55:11 am »
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I can see the election campaign now.

VOTE MINALIEN OR HE'LL EAT YOUR TOAST.

on the issues

MINALIEN VOWS TO GET RID OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!
MINALIEN VOWS THAT ANDREW WILL BE PROSTITUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW
MINALIEN VOWS TO LEGALIZE GAMBLING, ALCOHOL, AND PROSTITUTION

Then, on my inauguration

Suddenly, BREASTS. GIANT ONES. EVERYWHERE.

Well hell, you've got my vote.
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2008, 07:45:49 pm »
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So like, who's the dumbshit president of this government we call ZFGC? :(
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2008, 07:47:32 pm »
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ZIDANE NEEDS TO TAKE A GOVERNMENT COURSE BECAUSE I EXPLAINED IT TO HIM LIKE FFFFF 50 TIMES AND HE STILL DOESN'T GET IT LOL

Silly Porkchop, Government and Constitutions aren't mutually exclusive.
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2008, 07:58:56 pm »
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!@#$% Zidanes gone? :( Our arguments! :(
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2008, 08:15:40 pm »
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Oops, i knew i forgot to add something back..
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2008, 03:17:35 am »
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So like, who's the dumbshit president of this government we call ZFGC? :(
Naturally, we shan't have one. I shall be the dictator elected president :D
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There's such a double standard about religion in the modern world. Catholics can gather, wear white robes, and say "In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti" and be considered normal.

But if my friends and I gather, wear black robes, and say  "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn", we're considered cultists.
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2008, 04:14:23 am »
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Specifically regarding the founding of American government, the later part about the qualifications to be President not being foreign-born but natural-born were kind of funny in that some of the founders were not born in the United States anyway - although with life expectancies being a lot less and to the time of the Constitutional Convention, it was nearing a point where the newest generations were being more predominantly born in the United States.

It shouldn't be funny, the purpose of it is to protect the integrity of the country.

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Thanks for defining what Windy is.  I agree that he is pretty good at the technical things and I recall you saying how he liked to stay out of certain administrative things in the past kind of - overall I am looking forward to his future technical projects but that is unrelated.  As for CrystalAngel04, I can't really say, women are refreshing though in that they don't think with testosterone-swamped brains, so no disagreement there.  At one time you also had an outside advisor in Jon here, is there anything in the future where something like that will happen again?

It could. -- Jon has access regardless, since he and I have the same hosting package.  We'll most likely make a former staff group, a selective one.

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And you have said that you wanted to bury the hatchet, I was under a lot of stress in the past which led me to act oddly, and the current staff is under a different set of administrative policy so if possible it would be a lift off my shoulders to let the past go and judge me on my actions of the present.

>.> it's actually under the same policy, it's just not being applied.
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2008, 09:23:20 pm »
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I like the sound of this idea but I hope it doesn't get out of hand if something goes wrong. If anything, it's most likely going to work out as the popular forum members getting elected which may seem unfair to users like me. Andrew, you should explain more on how users will be elected. Do we have a choice of who we'd like to elect or will you guys pick certain users for the position and let the members vote?
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2008, 10:14:49 pm »
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The goal is to be as democratic as possible...

Users just need to meet the basic requirements. There may be some form of nomination process, or endorsement... requirements (I'll have to speak to others about that first), but I think the goal is for the users to put someone into the admin chair they trust and feel would be good at progressing the community.

If it -doesn't- work, we'll most likely kill the elected aspect of it within a month or so.. but being they're 3 month terms, we should know whether it's working or not.. and that term limit may increase as time goes on, since 3 months is hardly enough time to get a lot of work done..

Mainly, we'll be playing a lot of this area by ear.. to be entirely honest. I've always wanted to do it and I have faith in the user bases judgment for electing a competent person. -- might be a mistake on my end but it will definitely be an interesting theory to see play out.
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2008, 10:23:10 pm »
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Mainly, we'll be playing a lot of this area by ear.. to be entirely honest. I've always wanted to do it and I have faith in the user bases judgment for electing a competent person. -- might be a mistake on my end but it will definitely be an interesting theory to see play out.
It sounds like a fun idea too. I'm surprised I didn't think of something like that before when I had a site a few years back.
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2008, 10:25:55 pm »
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It might completely fail too. :p I don't know.. don't know until you try it.

I think we'll find out this weekend. :)
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2008, 10:26:58 pm »
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It might completely fail too. :p I don't know.. don't know until you try it.

I think we'll find out this weekend. :)

*stockpiles anti-admin grenades underground for when Swiftu is admin*

I mean uhh......

Great idea, love it a lot. kthnx.
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2008, 10:29:09 pm »
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If you are going to delegate roles on the forum for the existing administrators, often with overlap as you said, any elected administrator would often be left with nothing substantial to work on other than being an individual voice of community concern.  And even then, it really does not matter what they say as the other administrators are of a certain group.  What I mean by that is the core and appointed administrator all share a similar mindset, and to have anything as a major issue according to the compact, you need two administrators.

The idea could work so long as those who were accepted to be nominated were not weeded due existing administrator concern over irrational pasts or community fervor of putting the popular person on the spot.  Trying new things isn't bad, but meh.  Three months is also a lot of time on an online forum - the only thing a person would have to learn in possibly how parts of SMF work, but that's easy enough.  I would assume four months would actually be a better time frame as six months would be a little too long - and four would be a little more.
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2008, 01:34:44 am »
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So um, damnit Vash, when is this all happening... DETAILS, DETAILS!!!
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2008, 03:58:56 am »
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So um, damnit Vash, when is this all happening... DETAILS, DETAILS!!!

I was hoping this weekend. Unfortunately I'm working Saturday now.. I'll see what I can do while at work.
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Re: Administrative Compact
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2008, 06:40:17 pm »
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Most likely it will get implemented this weekend. Just a matter of finding time when all the admins are free and we can sort it out.
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