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[Solved] Deku Link - GBC
« on: September 08, 2010, 01:09:54 am »
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Can anyone help me? I'm new to this. If you can't tell, that's supposed to be Deku Link.  ::)
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 04:58:00 am »
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It's not bad, I like how it looks. Although the black part on the eyes sometimes look like he's wearing a mask, but if you look at it as Deku Link, it does look like the dark indent on his face that makes his nose stick out.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 05:05:13 am »
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It feels way more limited when you make it because of the palette and the added fact that Deku Link is supposed to be smaller than the normal Link. Glad it turned out somewhat ok, thanks! But what can I do to make it better?
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2010, 02:33:45 am »
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Bump! I would still appreciate some feedback! I want to make it better.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2010, 05:43:57 am »
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If you want more C+C you need to make more. This is just 1 frame in the walking animation. I suggest you make all the frames for standing still and walking in the directions down, up and left.
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2010, 02:25:40 pm »
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I'm using a better palette thanks to King Tetiro. Here's the walking animation! Also WIP is a sheet. Let me be sure I have all the animations I need:

Idle x4
Walking x4
Spinning x4
Shield x4
Flying x4
No Energy x4 (Flying timer is up)
Spinning into Flower x1
Popping out of Flower x1
Bubble Magic x4
Trumpets Idle x1
Trumpets Playing x1
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2010, 07:21:42 pm »
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I know I'm posting a lot, and I apologize for it. But I did a side view! I think this is where the C+C comes in.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2010, 09:54:19 pm by TiffTuff »
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2010, 11:07:05 pm »
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Another attempt. I think this Deku is the best one I've made thus far!

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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2010, 07:08:45 pm »
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There are way too many colors in that sprite. You're using seven colors when NPCS generally only have two. It only makes it look muddy and lack any sort of contrast, not to mention it's far too tall. I would go back to the original sprite and work from there. It's much closer to the actual style. :)
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2010, 07:39:11 pm »
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Actually sprites usually are limited to four colors. I made a recolor to reflect that and added in a hat for Deku Link. But IMO it still doesn't resemble him. And yes, I know he should be smaller. But how much smaller can you get in gbc style without the sprite being TOO small?

« Last Edit: September 10, 2010, 07:45:23 pm by TiffTuff »
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2010, 03:50:01 am »
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No, sprites are not limited to four colors. All NPCs have two colors, one of them being a white. [Excluding black.] The only time this rule is broken is when the NPC is holding something of importance [i.e. a worker with a shovel, elder of the Zoras with his cane] or is a larger the normal sprite [i.e. a boss, King Zora.] That being said, there are only a handful of bosses that even break the two color rule, and it's generally because they are holding something.

Your updated sprite still has five colors. Two browns, two greens and an orange for the eyes. I feel like you aren't grasping GB style quite yet. The perspective of the sprite is off. His head should be at least two pixels lower, which would also begin to solve your height problem. You can argue all you want about GB style being small, but you said yourself in your first post that Deku Link needs to be shorter than regular Link, and as of right now, it's two pixels TALLER than him.

Start off editing NPCs before you create your own so you can begin to get a feel for how things should be colored and proper ways to make shadows with only black, white and a color. GB is a very simplistic style, but is hard to recreate because of all the restrictions. If I were you, I would edit on of the sprites of the children playing ball to find the proper height for Deku Link.
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2010, 04:02:17 am »
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This is how I learn SC. By throwing up what I make and getting comments on them. I lowered the head two pixels and also removed some extra color. He now has black, green, orange, and brown.
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2010, 05:06:36 am »
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If you are making a traditionally styled GB game, then these are the colors you should use: green, white and black. And when I say green, I mean the used for Link. If you want to push it, you can use yellow for the wood color and then make the hat green, although I think it's unnecessary. If you do that, you should only use green and white for the hat, not green and a lighter green.
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2010, 04:25:11 pm »
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This Deku isn't really Link. It's one of the guards at the palace. I switched the colors around as you instructed, however I still think the previous version looks better. Maybe I should put it in a mockup?

EDIT: Here are the two versions set against a forest map I'll be using:



Either:

1 - Albino Deku
2 - Hispanic Deku
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2010, 05:44:56 pm »
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I'm never going to get anything done if I try to please everyone. So I decided to go with the darker colored deku. Here's the front view and the behind view.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2010, 07:19:37 pm by TiffTuff »
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2010, 08:40:16 pm »
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Here's a little example I made quickly. He's one pixel shorter than regular Link and is using the proper colors.
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2010, 08:45:11 pm »
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Hey, that's not bad! My only complaint is that the face looks more like a skull than a deku.

EDIT: I did some work on the face. Can I use these? (There's still a ton more animations to make for him, so it's not like you did the whole thing yourself. I can still learn from it!)
« Last Edit: September 11, 2010, 08:50:50 pm by TiffTuff »
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Re: [HELP/REQUEST] Deku Link - GBC
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2010, 09:37:53 pm »
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Made a flying animation from your base, SC. How's it look? The petal colors are a bit dark, but there's no lighter pink on the palette I'm using. (I am using real colors, from the options on VBA)
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2010, 01:46:55 am »
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That looks good IMO. It's good to see you're taking advice from SC, he's a master of GB style.
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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2010, 02:07:46 am »
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It's a good idea to walk away for a few hours and come back to take another look. I now feel his body is too big compared to the other animations. Thoughts?
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