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Starforsaken101

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Re: Shadow of Liimina Programming Discussion
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2012, 03:19:06 am »
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I would definitely recommend C++ and Java/C#. C++ is commonly used in the gaming industry. We use AS3 at work for some games and that's Java-based, so Java's pretty useful. Every language has its set of advantages and disadvantages but I find being multilingual is just generally advantageous in itself.
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Re: Shadow of Liimina Programming Discussion
« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2012, 03:39:49 am »
Quote from: 酒用Star on November 23, 2012, 03:19:06 am
I would definitely recommend C++ and Java/C#. C++ is commonly used in the gaming industry. We use AS3 at work for some games and that's Java-based, so Java's pretty useful. Every language has its set of advantages and disadvantages but I find being multilingual is just generally advantageous in itself.
This. It really depends on _your_ specific needs. To be honest, I would ask yourself which language you would feel most comfortable with in order to complete your game above what the industry does. Humble Indie Bundle and co have proven that programming language only matters in what you're able to do and what you need to get done.

Does writing a game engine using C++ and spawning an OpenGL 4.x context with the core profile enabled look sexy on your resume? Yes. Does this help you finish your game? Has no relevance.

I find myself writing "custom code" only when its necessary(like if I know I can do better than existing implementations) or if I want to learn something new. Take my RTOS(real time operating system) for example with my microcontroller.. it has no practical use except now I know a little bit more about operating systems and how they work. So getting back to the point, does working with C++ benefit you in what your final goal is. Keep your focus. What is your _goal_ here? Then go from there.
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Re: Shadow of Liimina Programming Discussion
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2012, 03:20:29 pm »
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Quote from: gm112 on November 23, 2012, 03:39:49 am
So getting back to the point, does working with C++ benefit you in what your final goal is. Keep your focus. What is your _goal_ here? Then go from there.


Yes, this is true.


If you're final goal is to complete THIS game or similar non-commercial projects, then you need to think of how you'd do well with it.  If you plan to make this a career, it would be a good idea to know more than one or two languages.


Sorry if I'm spouting the same old things everyone else has already established, but I must add that you need to research what field or language would best interest you and meet your needs as you progress in life.




PS: I'll PM you about something that I'm not sure whether or not I should post it here.  Just to keep this topic on track.
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Re: Shadow of Liimina Programming Discussion
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2012, 01:21:15 am »
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Well it is my life long goal, but from what I hear... programming is constantly improving. Learning an entire language is already pretty much impossible, how would I learn two languages or more when they're all constantly evolving and becoming more complex?
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Re: Shadow of Liimina Programming Discussion
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Quote from: Kienamaru on November 24, 2012, 01:21:15 am
Well it is my life long goal, but from what I hear... programming is constantly improving. Learning an entire language is already pretty much impossible, how would I learn two languages or more when they're all constantly evolving and becoming more complex?

It's actually not that bad once you really learn one. It's not quite the language really, but more of the logic behind algorithms. The language is like the sugary coating. If you know how to properly list out an algorithm and do it efficiently, the language isn't so much the hard part. However, each language does have its quirks. For instance, a list in C++ commonly uses pointers while in Java...well, it kind of doesn't since you don't really "use" pointers. Just simple things like that. I think you can do it. Don't discourage yourself.
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Re: Shadow of Liimina Programming Discussion
« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2012, 06:28:23 am »
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I'll try not to get discouraged, what else have I got to live for right?

So yeah, I guess I'll try and get C++ down and then Java.
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Re: Shadow of Liimina Programming Discussion
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2012, 03:34:14 pm »
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Quote from: Kienamaru on November 25, 2012, 06:28:23 am
I'll try not to get discouraged, what else have I got to live for right?

So yeah, I guess I'll try and get C++ down and then Java.


To be honest, I think that's the best combination of languages.  But I'm sure you will eventually run into situations that require other languages.  If you happen to run into C# (Sharp, if that's it. :P), then you will find that it contains elements of both C++ and Java, and it could be more difficult to understand because it's like both, but unlike either.


In a way of speaking, it can be confusing as to how it can be used in ways that the other two couldn't; I got this info from an experienced programmer, but I personally cannot remember what he said makes it so difficult.
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