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A 47 steel frame hi-rise, not hit by any debris or plane False. There was a huge gash on the south side that went about 20 stories. Here, let's take some direct quotes from the firefighters there: "A little north of Vesey I said, we???ll go down, let???s see what???s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what???s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn???t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn???t look good. " -Chris Boyle "There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we???ll head back to the command post." -Chris Boyle and reportedly had 2 small fires on floors 3 and 12, collapses in the late afternoon?! Now it is impossible this building collapsed from fire More direct quotes. "There were a lot of damaged apparatus there that were covered. We tried to get searches in those areas. By now, this is going on into the afternoon, and we were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o???clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o???clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse." -Chris Boyle Firehouse(interviewer): Was there heavy fire in there right away? Hayden: No, not right away, and that???s probably why it stood for so long because it took a while for that fire to develop.It was a heavy body of fire in there and then we didn???t make any attempt to fight it. That was just one of those wars we were just going to lose. We were concerned about the collapse of a 47-story building there. We were worried about additional collapse there of what was remaining standing of the towers and the Marriott, so we started pulling the people back after a couple of hours of surface removal and searches along the surface of the debris. We started to pull guys back because we were concerned for their safety. , and Larry Silverstein says they gave the order to quote "Pull it". They were talking about the firefighters. In the call where that quote came from, he was talking to a fire department commander. Taking quotes out of context doesn't strengthen your argument. even more quotes. "They told us to get out of there because they were worried about 7 World Trade Center, which is right behind it, coming down. We were up on the upper floors of the Verizon building looking at it. You could just see the whole bottom corner of the building was gone. We could look right out over to where the Trade Centers were because we were that high up. Looking over the smaller buildings. I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on. Finally they pulled us out. They said all right, get out of that building because that 7, they were really worried about. They pulled us out of there" - Richard Banaciski The 9/11 commission report does not even question this, not even mentioning this building, as if the mysterious collapse of a 47 story building is not worthy of mention. The collapse was hardly 'mysterious'. Another example of this fraud is the deliberate lie surrounding the WTC Tower's Central Core. The 9/11 commission report defines the central core as "A hollow steel shaft, in which elevators and stairwells were grouped together". The truth is, the central core of the towers, was anything but hollow. 47 structural steel columns were located in the central core of the towers, and these were very important because they were the unique feature of these towers, and the weight bearing structures. I'm quite sure that a 20 story gash causing those columns to become misaligned could account for something. Also take into account the tremendous fire within the building. You simply disregard all the evidence and seek shelter behind your little websites. One of which is a government website. The government is covering up 9/11, didn't you read my post? False accusation. Popular Mechanics simply states the same information found in the 9/11 commission report, which are proven lies. I have taken a look at these poor sites, and they do not prove the official story. I maintain that Popular mechanics is credible. According to a new poll, only 16% of the American population believes the 'Official story'. Sucks for you.
Argumentum ad populum fallacy. You want to support the War on Terror,and watch our country die in the process, our constitution destroyed... So now you're throwing around ad hominem, after just doing ad populum... Your entire argument is just you accusing people without any proof. No, that is just something you do because I'm the one who knows both sides of the story in detail, and who chose the 9/11 truth movement, because the official story is nothing but a poor cover up. I've spent my time reading books on this subject, not just watching little videos. All YOU people know how to do is blather off the same information over and over and then link to Popular Mechanics, even though you probably havn't given the other side a fair analysis. I've read your Popular Mechanics website that you seem to worship, and it is the "same information over and over". The information on that site is the same information you find in the FEMA reports, the 9/11 commission report, etc. It is no different. I have read these, so I know. It is not new information, it is the same government lies, the same official story that has been disproven. I've heard both sides of the arguement, remember, I was once on your side. By the way, a few things in that article are untrue about the 9/11 truth movement. Especially the picture. Translation: I'm right because I say so; basic logic and opposing evidence be damned.
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