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There is Meaning in the Universe
« on: July 05, 2007, 05:10:36 am »
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http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2007/07/03/paul_davies/index2.html

This article obviously proves that the Force exists.

Discuss.
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2007, 05:18:59 pm »
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Well let me be honest:
I don't care about religion,the meaning of life, the meaning of the universe or whatever...I'm gonna die so I don't care.
If we are meant bo here then I don't know what to say...Mission complete? o_0
Yea, I'm too ignorant to find the meaning in all that text. Sorry xD
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Quote from: Infini on March 18, 2008, 05:29:22 pm
This is an english website, please speak it.
l0l wut? o_0
Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2007, 06:29:07 pm »
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This article obviously proves that the Force exists.
No, it doesn't. It just states some theories.
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2007, 06:36:27 pm »
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The problem with this argument is, let's say they are infinite 'multi-verses'. Therefore, with infinite possibilities, statistically is it not VERY likely that at least one of them will have our laws of physics for existance.

Just because we live in the universe created by that possibility DOES NOT mean proof of God.
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 07:13:22 pm »
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Darkjay...He isnt supporting God. Read the entire article. You know, the part of bout non religion.
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 07:46:46 pm »
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Quote from: TCGamer on July 05, 2007, 06:29:07 pm
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This article obviously proves that the Force exists.
No, it doesn't. It just states some theories.
I was kidding.

Anyway, what I would like to know is if life is the way it is because of how the universe is, or that it requires the universe to be this way.
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 08:07:04 pm »
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Quote from: Moldrill on July 05, 2007, 07:13:22 pm
Darkjay...He isnt supporting God. Read the entire article. You know, the part of bout non religion.

Oh, I didn't see all the big Next's XD

Maybe this does support the ancient phrase, "I reject your reality and substitute my own." XD
Anyway, Quantum physics get's really confusing at times, especially when you are tired. It even stumped einstein many times, and he was proven wrong over it several times.
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 08:11:46 pm »
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Quote from: TheDarkJay on July 05, 2007, 08:07:04 pm
Quote from: Moldrill on July 05, 2007, 07:13:22 pm
Darkjay...He isnt supporting God. Read the entire article. You know, the part of bout non religion.

Oh, I didn't see all the big Next's XD

Maybe this does support the ancient phrase, "I reject your reality and substitute my own." XD
Anyway, Quantum physics get's really confusing at times, especially when you are tired. It even stumped einstein many times, and he was proven wrong over it several times.
Maybe because it's nearly at the limits of human intellect?
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2007, 10:05:38 pm »
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what? Religion related to the universe? WTF!?
I can't say anything about the universe until I study more about it and come out with my own explanation for such things, but I can't say that what the articles says it's a lie or truth because I'm not an expert on this matter.
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Quote from: Infini on March 18, 2008, 05:29:22 pm
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2007, 10:02:05 am »
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Quote from: dehvknull on July 05, 2007, 07:46:46 pm
Quote from: TCGamer on July 05, 2007, 06:29:07 pm
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This article obviously proves that the Force exists.
No, it doesn't. It just states some theories.
I was kidding.
Ahh, I already thought so, but wasn't sure.

The theory of the multi-verses is nice, but it had to be started sometime, doesn't it? It still doesn't explain where everything comes from.
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2007, 08:15:38 pm »
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Quote from: TCGamer on July 06, 2007, 10:02:05 am
Quote from: dehvknull on July 05, 2007, 07:46:46 pm
Quote from: TCGamer on July 05, 2007, 06:29:07 pm
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This article obviously proves that the Force exists.
No, it doesn't. It just states some theories.
I was kidding.
Ahh, I already thought so, but wasn't sure.

The theory of the multi-verses is nice, but it had to be started sometime, doesn't it? It still doesn't explain where everything comes from.
Yeah, I guess they're still working on that. :P
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2007, 03:25:15 am »
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Everything came from nothing. Its that simple! :P
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2007, 04:23:19 am »
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Quote from: Moldrill on July 07, 2007, 03:25:15 am
Everything came from nothing. Its that simple! :P
That's just as bad as the Christians, you don't know. I can't conclude where the universe came from, I can only conclude from where it did not.
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2007, 04:02:30 pm »
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*Raises hand
I think that God IS the universe, and we are all just tiny little specs of God, like cells in a body. So, I think that the universe (God) can modify itself to support life, or obliterate it.
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Quote from: TheDarkJay on June 25, 2009, 11:28:56 pm
And now after years of mocking him the pretending he played a massive part in our lives when really we couldn't care less just to ease our consciounse over said mocking healing can begin <_<

It's Steve Irwin all over again.
Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2007, 06:49:02 pm »
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Or maybe existance is a dream in someones mind, and we are all just aspects of his split-personalities.
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2007, 08:40:07 pm »
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Quote from: TCGamer on July 06, 2007, 10:02:05 am
The theory of the multi-verses is nice, but it had to be started sometime, doesn't it? It still doesn't explain where everything comes from.

The problem with asking what created the universe is that you'll have to ask what created whatever created the universe, and what created that, and what was it's creator's creator?  It's impossible to explain an endless line of creators creating things with nothing but more creators at the beginning which actually doesn't exist because there is no beginning to the cycle, yet people still try to do it for some reason.  Perhaps outside of what we currently understand to be possible there could be an infinite cycle of creation with no beginning, but that idea seems just as absurd if not more than saying there has to be a point at which one of the creators just existed with nothing to make them so.  Of course if it seems absurd, it's because of the way we humans understand things to be, it may not even be possible to explain the origins of existence with the limited scope of human intellect.
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2007, 08:51:08 pm »
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Quote from: Dracon on July 08, 2007, 04:02:30 pm
*Raises hand
I think that God IS the universe, and we are all just tiny little specs of God, like cells in a body. So, I think that the universe (God) can modify itself to support life, or obliterate it.
That's interesting, but I don't know whether it's true or not.
Quote from: TheDarkJay on July 08, 2007, 06:49:02 pm
Or maybe existance is a dream in someones mind, and we are all just aspects of his split-personalities.
"I think, therefore I am"? Aren't we all Azathoth's (spelling?) dream in the Cthulhu mythos? I don't think that's true.
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2007, 04:12:44 pm »
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Quote from: dehvknull on July 08, 2007, 08:51:08 pm
Quote from: Dracon on July 08, 2007, 04:02:30 pm
*Raises hand
I think that God IS the universe, and we are all just tiny little specs of God, like cells in a body. So, I think that the universe (God) can modify itself to support life, or obliterate it.
That's interesting, but I don't know whether it's true or not.
Quote from: TheDarkJay on July 08, 2007, 06:49:02 pm
Or maybe existance is a dream in someones mind, and we are all just aspects of his split-personalities.
"I think, therefore I am"? Aren't we all Azathoth's (spelling?) dream in the Cthulhu mythos? I don't think that's true.

I think therefore I think I am ;)
Don't seperate personalities of one person also think?
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2007, 04:22:27 pm »
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Quote from: dehvknull on July 08, 2007, 08:51:08 pm
"I think, therefore I am"? Aren't we all Azathoth's (spelling?) dream in the Cthulhu mythos? I don't think that's true.

<3 the Cthulhu

I'm trying to save money so I can dive R'lyeh.

Obviously I wont find anything, but still, its something to do. Also you ever hear about the Bloop?
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Re: There is Meaning in the Universe
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2007, 10:31:59 pm »
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Quote from: bertfallen on July 09, 2007, 04:22:27 pm
Quote from: dehvknull on July 08, 2007, 08:51:08 pm
"I think, therefore I am"? Aren't we all Azathoth's (spelling?) dream in the Cthulhu mythos? I don't think that's true.

<3 the Cthulhu

I'm trying to save money so I can dive R'lyeh.

Obviously I wont find anything, but still, its something to do. Also you ever hear about the Bloop?
Yeah. Wouldn't it be awesome if Cthulhu exists? If he did, I would get to be just as crazy as the Christians, but I will worship a MUCH cooler deity. <3
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