People seriously need to get a grip.

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Re: People seriously need to get a grip.

« Reply #120 on: December 13, 2007, 08:25:11 pm »

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The true-believer syndrome merits study by science. What is it that compels a person, past all reason, to believe the unbelievable. How can an otherwise sane individual become so enamored of a fantasy, an imposture, that even after it's exposed in the bright light of day he still clings to it â€” indeed, clings to it all the harder?... No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie. â€” M. Lamar Keene

Read this as you want in relationship to this topic.

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Krynn	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #121 on: December 13, 2007, 11:19:51 pm »
Issac_Amisov Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3458	Quote from: RegalBuster on December 13, 2007, 07:16:11 pm Quote from: Source on December 13, 2007, 07:12:07 pm Quote from: Krynn on December 13, 2007, 04:23:03 pm Alright, well just watch the movie and then decide for yourself. I know you're set on your site of the issue, but I mean... just watch it so you can see both sides of the issue. Zeitgeistmovie.com mkay. Why should we listen to a fellow conspirator's video? Non biased source pl0x. Krynn basically repeats the same...."facts", over and over, just face it Krynn your !@#$% doesn't work here. Well, I got my facts from movies and published books. Griffin, David Ray - 911 The Myth and the Reality Ruppert, Michael -The Truth and Lies of 9-11 Berger, Michael - Improbable Collapse Avatar, LLC - 911 Mysteries Hilder, Anthony J.- Illuminazi 911 Mugford, Dustin - September 11th Revisited vonKleist, Dave - 911 In Plane Site Hufschmid, Eric - Painful Deceptions Rodriguez, William - What really happened on 9/11? Zwicker, Barrie - 911 The Great Conspiracy 911: Press For Truth Jones, Alex - Martial Law 9/11 Jones, Alex - TerrorStorm Hilder, Anthony J.-The Greatest Lie Ever Sold Avery, Dylan - Loose Change 2nd Edition Humphrey, George - 911 The Great Illusion Ruppert, Michael - Crossing the Rubicon, New Society Publishers Griffin, David Ray - The New Pearl Harbor, Interlink Griffin, David Ray - Debunking 9/11 Debunking, Olive Branch Press Tarpley, Webster - 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA, Progressive Press Griffin, David Ray -The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions And Distortions, Olive Branch Press Marrs, Jim - The Terror Conspiracy: Deception, 9/11 and the Loss of Liberty, Disinformation Company Logged

TheDarkJay	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #122 on: December 13, 2007, 11:24:20 pm »
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Re: People seriously need to get a grip.

« Reply #123 on: December 13, 2007, 11:24:51 pm »

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Quote from: Krynn on December 13, 2007, 11:19:51 pm

Quote from: RegalBuster on December 13, 2007, 07:16:11 pm
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Quote from: Krynn on December 13, 2007, 04:23:03 pm
Alright, well just watch the movie and then decide for yourself. I know you're set on your site of the issue, but I mean... just watch it so you can see both sides of the issue. Zeitgeistmovie.com

mkay.

Why should we listen to a fellow conspirator's video? Non biased source pl0x.
Krynn basically repeats the same...."facts", over and over, just face it Krynn your !@#$% doesn't work here.
Well, I got my facts from movies and published books.

Griffin, David Ray - 911 The Myth and the Reality
Ruppert, Michael -The Truth and Lies of 9-11
Berger, Michael - Improbable Collapse
Avatar, LLC - 911 Mysteries
Hilder, Anthony J.- Illuminazi 911
Mugford, Dustin - September 11th Revisited
vonKleist, Dave - 911 In Plane Site
Hufschmid, Eric - Painful Deceptions
Rodriguez, William - What really happened on 9/11?
Zwicker, Barrie - 911 The Great Conspiracy
911: Press For Truth
Jones, Alex - Martial Law 9/11
Jones, Alex - TerrorStorm
Hilder, Anthony J.-The Greatest Lie Ever Sold
Avery, Dylan - Loose Change 2nd Edition
Humphrey, George - 911 The Great Illusion
Ruppert, Michael - Crossing the Rubicon, New Society Publishers
Griffin, David Ray - The New Pearl Harbor, Interlink
Griffin, David Ray - Debunking 9/11 Debunking, Olive Branch Press
Tarpley, Webster - 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA, Progressive Press
Griffin, David Ray -The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions And Distortions, Olive Branch Press
Marrs, Jim - The Terror Conspiracy: Deception, 9/11 and the Loss of Liberty, Disinformation Company

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Hilder, Anthony J.- Illuminazi 911

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Illuminazi 911

These look like promising unbiased credible sources. (/!@#$% SARCASM.)

Were you asleep in all of your classes or something?

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Krynn	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #124 on: December 13, 2007, 11:25:56 pm »
Issac_Amisov Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3458	So none of your information has bias either? Just because it's your side of the argument doesn't mean mine is all biased, as far as I'm concerned... you're information is biased. @Swiftu, that was one of the books out of lots. Logged

TheDarkJay	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #125 on: December 13, 2007, 11:30:20 pm »
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Krynn	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #126 on: December 13, 2007, 11:32:55 pm »
Issac_Amisov Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3458	Quote from: TheDarkJay on December 13, 2007, 11:30:20 pm Where do they source THEIR information? Do you want me to look into each books sources? That's like saying, where's wikipedia's source? Logged

TheDarkJay

Re: People seriously need to get a grip.

« Reply #127 on: December 14, 2007, 12:09:01 am »

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So I'm the only one who always checks Wikipedia's sources and disregards any unsourced material?

For example, I like this quote, which is by Adolf Hitler according to Wikiquote, however it is unsourced (believed to be from his book, Mein Kampf), so until I find it will not quote it as being by Hitler
"If you wish the sympathy of the broad masses, you must tell them the crudest and most stupid things."

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Swoftu

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Re: People seriously need to get a grip.

« Reply #128 on: December 14, 2007, 01:49:22 am »

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So none of your information has bias either? Just because it's your side of the argument doesn't mean mine is all biased, as far as I'm concerned... you're information is biased.

You're saying that a popular science article is biased? EL OH FUCKIN' EL, That's just rich. They use primary sources, like demolition experts and scientists.

Your information is STUFF PULLED OUT OF YOUR REAR.

Quote from: Krynn on December 13, 2007, 11:25:56 pm

@Swiftu, that was one of the books out of lots.

Oh yes, I'm sure titles like "The Greatest Lie Ever Sold", and "The Great Conspiracy" show no signs of bias.

Let's look at some more here:

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Griffin, David Ray - The New Pearl Harbor, Interlink

... They think pearl harbor was a conspiracy? Fuckin' lol.

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Griffin, David Ray - Debunking 9/11 Debunking, Olive Branch Press

Not a very telling title, but it's written by the same guy who wrote the pearl harbor book.

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vonKleist, Dave - 911 In Plane Site

WHAT A CLEVER ONE.

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That's like saying, where's wikipedia's source?

Right at the bottom of the page.

Honestly, just leave this topic.

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Krynn	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #129 on: December 14, 2007, 01:56:25 am »
Issac_Amisov Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3458	I know wikipedia's sources are at the bottom of the page. I mean, are they biased? That's what this whole part of this was about was it not? Logged

Swoftu Super Fighting Robot	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #130 on: December 14, 2007, 02:00:47 am »
Reputation: +0/-3 Offline Gender: Posts: 3096	Quote from: Krynn on December 14, 2007, 01:56:25 am I know wikipedia's sources are at the bottom of the page. I mean, are they biased? That's what this whole part of this was about was it not? ONE OF WIKIPEDIA'S SOURCES FOR THE 2004 OSAMA VID IS THE !@#$% BBC. Logged

Krynn	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #131 on: December 14, 2007, 02:01:27 am »
Issac_Amisov Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3458	Quote from: Swiftu on December 14, 2007, 02:00:47 am Quote from: Krynn on December 14, 2007, 01:56:25 am I know wikipedia's sources are at the bottom of the page. I mean, are they biased? That's what this whole part of this was about was it not? ONE OF WIKIPEDIA'S SOURCES FOR THE 2004 OSAMA VID IS THE !@#$% BBC. A biased source. Logged

Swoftu Super Fighting Robot	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #132 on: December 14, 2007, 02:14:12 am »
Reputation: +0/-3 Offline Gender: Posts: 3096	Quote from: Krynn on December 14, 2007, 02:01:27 am Quote from: Swiftu on December 14, 2007, 02:00:47 am Quote from: Krynn on December 14, 2007, 01:56:25 am I know wikipedia's sources are at the bottom of the page. I mean, are they biased? That's what this whole part of this was about was it not? ONE OF WIKIPEDIA'S SOURCES FOR THE 2004 OSAMA VID IS THE !@#$% BBC. A biased source. Logged

Krynn	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #133 on: December 14, 2007, 03:00:57 am »
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DanTheMan	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #134 on: December 14, 2007, 03:10:21 am »
w00t Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1983	This ends now. Turn it back into a civilized debate and quit member-bashing or it gets locked, end of story. I would like to point you all to the forum rules here, both global and Debate-specific. Swiftu, I'm looking at you specifically, but others are guilty as well. I know it's a controversial subject, but there's no reason to attack Krynn like you guys are. Quit it. Logged
w00t Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1983	Quote from: dantheman on April 01, 2006, 06:53:38 am What do you mean I need a life? =P Hm... Lives... Isn't that something that you get in Super Mario Bros? You know, those green mushrooms? That's a life, right? My one and only fangame, Link Maze, may be viewed at http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?topic=82.0

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Re: People seriously need to get a grip.

« Reply #135 on: December 14, 2007, 03:57:00 am »

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Quote from: dantheman on December 14, 2007, 03:10:21 am

This ends now. Turn it back into a civilized debate and quit member-bashing or it gets locked, end of story. I would like to point you all to the forum rules here, both global and Debate-specific. Swiftu, I'm looking at you specifically, but others are guilty as well.

I know it's a controversial subject, but there's no reason to attack Krynn like you guys are.

Quit it.

..He just admitted to trolling.

FISSURE, GET THE PITCHFORKS.

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Krynn	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #136 on: December 14, 2007, 04:08:14 am »
Issac_Amisov Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 3458	Quote from: Swiftu on December 14, 2007, 03:57:00 am Quote from: dantheman on December 14, 2007, 03:10:21 am This ends now. Turn it back into a civilized debate and quit member-bashing or it gets locked, end of story. I would like to point you all to the forum rules here, both global and Debate-specific. Swiftu, I'm looking at you specifically, but others are guilty as well. I know it's a controversial subject, but there's no reason to attack Krynn like you guys are. Quit it. ..He just admitted to trolling. FISSURE, GET THE PITCHFORKS. Did you not just read the previous post? Sorry if I was trolling a bit, just... everyone teamed on me. Ehh, whatever... I guess I lose the debate. We both have our own opinions, the problem is I respect yours and you don't respect mine. Logged

DanTheMan	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #137 on: December 14, 2007, 04:13:14 am »
w00t Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1983	I'm not saying the debate is over. Just that it needs to become civil. Logged
w00t Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 1983	Quote from: dantheman on April 01, 2006, 06:53:38 am What do you mean I need a life? =P Hm... Lives... Isn't that something that you get in Super Mario Bros? You know, those green mushrooms? That's a life, right? My one and only fangame, Link Maze, may be viewed at http://www.zfgc.com/forum/index.php?topic=82.0

FISSURE	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #138 on: December 14, 2007, 04:19:26 am »
Reputation: +9/-1 Offline Gender: Posts: 4654	Quote from: Swiftu on December 14, 2007, 03:57:00 am Quote from: dantheman on December 14, 2007, 03:10:21 am This ends now. Turn it back into a civilized debate and quit member-bashing or it gets locked, end of story. I would like to point you all to the forum rules here, both global and Debate-specific. Swiftu, I'm looking at you specifically, but others are guilty as well. I know it's a controversial subject, but there's no reason to attack Krynn like you guys are. Quit it. ..He just admitted to trolling. FISSURE, GET THE PITCHFORKS. runs in carrying pitchforks The Goverment isn't some evil org. that wants to kill people. I don't think. Logged
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Ness	Re: People seriously need to get a grip. « Reply #139 on: December 14, 2007, 04:19:54 am »
๏̯͡๏﴿ Reputation: +0/-0 Offline Gender: Posts: 2435	Quote from: Krynn on December 14, 2007, 04:08:14 am Quote from: Swiftu on December 14, 2007, 03:57:00 am Quote from: dantheman on December 14, 2007, 03:10:21 am This ends now. Turn it back into a civilized debate and quit member-bashing or it gets locked, end of story. I would like to point you all to the forum rules here, both global and Debate-specific. Swiftu, I'm looking at you specifically, but others are guilty as well. I know it's a controversial subject, but there's no reason to attack Krynn like you guys are. Quit it. ..He just admitted to trolling. FISSURE, GET THE PITCHFORKS. Did you not just read the previous post? Sorry if I was trolling a bit, just... everyone teamed on me. Ehh, whatever... I guess I lose the debate. We both have our own opinions, the problem is I respect yours and you don't respect mine. We only sided against you because all your "proof" was pulled from your ass. All your resources are way more biased than ours. Logged
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